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[Leper Messiah]

I have never lived in communism,I do not know what to tell you, but yes in capitalism and democracy, and it is not as good as you paint it, tell me one reason why you hate communism.

Spain has been without deaths for weeks, so we have the right to demonstrate for a good cause, not like other demonstrations made by the political right during the pandemic, against "repressive measures" or "communists", of the most pathetic things you could have seen in my country.

I hate communiasm because as a TRUE socialist I see it as an evil AS bad as Fascism.....I HATE both. Why do you NOT hate both?

and where the hell do I paint capitalism as "good"...how often do I have to say "unequal distribution of wealth is a problem"....kindly read what I say and not make presumptions. I think BOTH extremes of the politcal spectrum are halfwits. It's just that only one is seen by many to be bad.

Does spain have no social distancing rules now then?

 

[Oldviboy]

I suggest you read the history of humanity and how the poor are shat on by the rich for Millenia, how long did it take for the poor in Europe to get an education etc etc. We need to get away from the US centric view of "history". 400 years doesn't compare to a couple thousand (and that's just using the christian calander).

I know, the United States does just that globally now, I just wanted you to try to understand your hatred of communism and communists.

 

[Ian Skippy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas

So impossible to imaging yet true?

Sorry but you're going on ignore as you just deny basic facts.

1) continually misread basic English sentences.
2) get upset with these figments of your own imagination.
3) hurl insults based on being upset
4) put the other on ignore
5) complain society is so mean to you
6) back to start

 

[Leper Messiah]

I know, the United States does just that globally now, I just wanted you to try to understand your hatred of communism and communists.

So do you, not for the reasons you think and assume.

shall I break it down?

1) "communism" pretends to be socialism, but it's only socialoism for the poor the Elite upper tier is STILL there, just richer because it's a smaller group.
2) that "smaller" group is "IMPOSSIBLE" to get rid of...one ruling option
3) becuase "communism" is a farce and clearly bad real Socialism has died....slow clap

do I NEED to go on.

Communism is crap.

 

[Ian Skippy]

do I NEED to go on.

You don't, but I fear you will.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Aplogies to mods for a political discussion!!! I am on NEITHER side of the political spectrum...humanity NEEDS a third choice.

 

[Oldviboy]

I hate communiasm because as a TRUE socialist I see it as an evil AS bad as Fascism.....I HATE both. Why do you NOT hate both?

and where the hell do I paint capitalism as "good"...how often do I have to say "unequal distribution of wealth is a problem"....kindly read what I say and not make presumptions. I think BOTH extremes of the politcal spectrum are halfwits. It's just that only one is seen by many to be bad.

Does spain have no social distancing rules now then?

Yes, of course, one defends a social organization in which there is no private property or class difference, and the other exalts homeland and race and anti-democracy, yes, almost the same.

You remind me of the right in my country, who comment that anti-fascism is the same as fascism ... there is nothing more stupid, anti-fascism should be a democratic principle and requirement.

Spain is in the last phase and has been no deads for weeks, I think that before the end of the month there will not be so many measures.People ,in general, have been doing well.

 

[Factabulous]

You don't, but I fear you will.

maybe Robin should start a new thread about Covid-19 and leave this one to be the politics thread. Except politics is banned

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ has some USA per-state metrics I hadn't noticed before - interesting how different states have different responses - and it's not breaking down by politics - California and Texas are both not doing well, NY and Illinois better.

 

[Oldviboy]

So do you, not for the reasons you think and assume.

shall I break it down?

1) "communism" pretends to be socialism, but it's only socialoism for the poor the Elite upper tier is STILL there, just richer because it's a smaller group.
2) that "smaller" group is "IMPOSSIBLE" to get rid of...one ruling option
3) becuase "communism" is a farce and clearly bad real Socialism has died....slow clap

do I NEED to go on.

Communism is crap.

When I go to live in a communist country, I will tell you the experience, now I do not know for sure, only what I can or let me read.

 

[Leper Messiah]

When I go to live in a communist country, I will tell you the experience, now I do not know for sure, only what I can or let me read.

Have fun in china/Nkorea then, just make sure you protest and I'll grieve for you later. Did you know china removed John Boyega from the Star Wars posters? There's country with systemic racism.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Yes, of course, one defends a social organization in which there is no private property or class difference, and the other exalts homeland and race and anti-democracy, yes, almost the same.

You remind me of the right in my country, who comment that anti-fascism is the same as fascism ... there is nothing more stupid, anti-fascism should be a democratic principle and requirement.

Spain is in the last phase and has been no deads for weeks, I think that before the end of the month there will not be so many measures.People ,in general, have been doing well.

You are confusing Communism with socialism....NOT the same thing. Communism "pretends" to be socialism. I am MORE of a socialist than the ruling elite of Russia/China/N Korea.

face palm....and how "democratic" is communism then? LOL...I mean come on man........you talk about stupidity!!

But is Social distancing still in effect? you're skirting the issue like a pro!!

Once again don't presume I'm not Anti Fascist because I'm not loony lefty.

 

[Oldviboy]

Have fun in china/Nkorea then, just make sure you protest and I'll grieve for you later. Did you know china removed John Boyega from the Star Wars posters? There's country with systemic racism.

Did you know that Spiderman (Tobey Maguire) removed the Twin Towers from the movie? and other games banned the use of airplanes for the same reason?

 

[Oldviboy]

You are confusing Communism with socialism....NOT the same thing. Communism "pretends" to be socialism.

face palm....and how "democratic" is communism then? LOL...I mean come on man........you talk about stupidity!!

But is Social distancing still in effect? you're skirting the issue like a pro!!

no

Spain is in the last phase and has been no deads for weeks, I think that before the end of the month there will not be so many measures.People ,in general, have been doing well.

 

[Oldviboy]

Once again don't presume I'm not Anti Fascist because I'm not loony lefty.

what i meant by that ,is that fascism is in itself undemocratic, the anti´s fights against that, so naturally many people are anti-fascist without knowing it.

 

[Ian Phillips]

No political discussion.

 

[Ian Skippy]

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I was only gone a few hours.

Don't worry. We've just been informed that there is no institutional racism in the West because we have John Boyega on a Star Wars poster. In sharp contrast with China, which removed him from the poster. Seriously though, looking at endless (and frequently deadly) cases of police brutality against citizens and then going:"But the real crime is that Star Wars poster on the other side of the planet!" is The Onion levels of absurd.

 

[Ian Skippy]

No political discussion.

Wait, is that a pic of you?

 

[Ian Skippy]

I just checked to see what John Boyega himself is concerned about right now. I have to admit I was pretty shocked to find out the correct answer is not:"Star Wars."

John Boyega's rousing Black Lives Matter speech wins praise and support

Boyega’s Star Wars co-stars were among those congratulating the actor on a passionate address at anti-racism demonstration in London

www.theguardian.com

Weird.

 

[WhiteHaulerMan]

Don't worry. We've just been informed that there is no institutional racism in the West because we have John Boyega on a Star Wars poster. In sharp contrast with China, which removed him from the poster. Seriously though, looking at endless (and frequently deadly) cases of police brutality against citizens and then going:"But the real crime is that Star Wars poster on the other side of the planet!" is The Onion levels of absurd.

For me it's a little more nuanced than that.

At a basic personal level its that people who yell "Trump is literally an Austrian painter with a bad moustache." but rush to defend a regime where actual concentration camps are still in employ on a massive scale because the Tangerine one is opposing them need to have a long hard word with themselves.

This extends out to corporations and celebrities (like disney or the NBA) who will proclaim how woke and progressive they are, but only when its safe and doesnt affect their profits but are more than happy to quickly roll over for a few more Yuan.

 

[Oldviboy]

For me it's a little more nuanced than that.

At a basic personal level its that people who yell "Trump is literally an Austrian painter with a bad moustache." but rush to defend a regime where actual concentration camps are still in employ on a massive scale because the Tangerine one is opposing them need to have a long hard word with themselves.

This extends out to corporations and celebrities (like disney or the NBA) who will proclaim how woke and progressive they are, but only when its safe and doesnt affect their profits but are more than happy to quickly roll over for a few more Yuan.

Spain's largest businessman, Amancio Ortega INDITEX, has illegal workshops for children and women in Asia .... Like small fields.

His fortune grew magically by 16 percent during the pandemic.