I read something about the space in the ships. but I don't think I have 4kt of space between all my ships. It's about 900t for the T9, but very little for the rest. So I don't really understand where those 4k are coming from.
Tritium Mining in the black
- Thread starter Dziondziak
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no need to imagine, I'm doing it
Your T9 holds a max of 790 tonnes. Your carrier holds a max of 26,000 tonnes of fuel. Minus any services you have installed
I know, if you look a few posts back I have copied the stats of occupation. That's not what I get using transfer button from my ship. For that, I get only about 4k of space.
Hm, 790 for the T9? I might not remember then, it's some time I didn't use it.
Sounds like you are selling ships/modules, it takes up space. Anyway, something you have installed is using cargo space.
edit, cant see your stats, cant you screenshot the page?
No, not selling anything. I haven't anything in stock, only my stuff.
Stats (well, maybe calling them stats was a bit too much
) were in the first page, here was the message
That’s exactly what I’m doing since one week
Ok so maybe you don't have the full picture clear:
1. Fleet Carriers require between 230 and 250 units of Tritium for each single jump (in the range above 450LY)
2. When you find a Tritium hotspot it requires between 2 and 3 hours to get 250 units of Tritium. Yes I know how to mine (my Fleet Carrier is the evidence) and no the yield is absolutely far from the triple LTD diamonds hotspots. Most asteroids in Tritium hotspots don't even have Tritium and the few ones that do have Tritium have a yield between 3% and 6%. If you do sub-surface mining the rate doesn't change as it sits at around 100 units per hour.
3. On top of this add that out of 20 systems I explored yesterday I only found 1 with ice ring planets and those didn't even have a single Tritium hotspot.
In one week of exploration I've only found 1 Tritium hotspot and definitely many more LTD hotspots. So this is the evidence that there's something wrong because LTDs are supposed to be rare materials, but they are apparently much more common than Tritium
It is my opinion that Tritium hotspots spawn rate needs to be increased and the asteroids yield in these hotspots needt to be increased to a minimum of 10%.
edit: this issue was already highlighted during the beta by other players too.
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I think you forgot the possibility to explore systems in the vicinity of your carrier (with an exploration ship of your choice*) for a Tritium hotspot and then remotely order your carrier directly into this ring. The beauty of this method (which is slow - no ifs, ands or buts) is, that it creates a circular dependency between mining and exploration. You do the mining to move your carrier and you explore to find your mining grounds. It's not for those who want to get from A to B as fast as possible. It's a way of living in the galaxy - forever if you want.
*If you have a certain direction in mind, you route and explore in this direction until you find a system with a Tritium ring. This way you also earn your upkeep, en passant so to say. That's what I'm doing since release (I couldn't afford huge amounts of tritium at this point) and it works! I'm totally autarkic and can go wherever I want and as long as I like. That's total freedom my friend!
The only requirement is that you need to love both exploring and mining - and no schedule you have to keep...
But if all you want is to circumnavigate the galaxy, this method is probably too slow for that.
Yeah i can imagine. Adding the need to mine as something extra to do apart from seeing stuff and getting tags sounds incredibly positive for out of bubble. Can't wait to go myself, but still having way too much fun in the bubble to go yet. Using it for trading and as a fleet taxi is also very satisfying.
Funny incident, that's what my initial motivation was to purchase a FC at all (hated them with a passion back then
Btw, as we talk, here's my first jump away from my FC, economical route (9.32 LY) and as if someone wanted to show me that I can't be lucky enough:
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I'm in my Python explo-miner (with limpets!) and while I'm already mining, my FC will be underway. My last FC hyperjump dropped me into a system with 2 TWWs and 3 terraformers, albeit 470Kls far out. Anyway, I DSS'ed them all. I guess this alone will almost pay my next week's upkeep. Life is good.
Yeah i know. I have a similar list of growing sandbox experiments to do as well. Its like the game is new again! The same excitement as when first starting to try an idea to see how it goes. Fun times.
.. Don't get me started about alts.. you come up with how alts fits into the whole picture as well and it compounds the time
Did you see what I just edited above? The last image?
Server down in 30 minutes, but then I'm already sitting in my FC.
Nice. One of "my" systems may have one.. one of the last bodies in mehit has a ringed moon and i think it has a hotspot.. don't remember though because at the time i was only checking new overlaps. Will probably go there again as the next stop.
Im on testing tritium mining tonight
Good to hear its been balanced to acceptable levels for fuelling purposes from your stories, awesome!PS. Its a shame about that particular body.. before they improved the rings.. there is actually a huge visual gap in those rings but still had asteroids.. so it was completely clear with a very low density.. quite a sight. But since the beyond change doesn't matter where you drop in they all look the same.
I have had problems finding Tritium hotspots myself and have actually run into rings like that posted by SenseiMatty which have no hot spots at all. I feel a bit of a buff to Tritium hotspot spawn rate wouldn't be unwelcome, at least for those undiscovered planets outside of the bubble.
Regarding FC fuel usage, I found Cmd Travers Fleet Carrier management Spreadsheet to be pretty good. I did however need to add the weight of the Tritium in the fuel tank to get it just right.
Roughly with a full hold of Tritium (and only the Armoury/Refuel/Repair/Cartographics services) you are looking at 250+ tonnes of Tritium per 500LY jump, at 10,000 tonnes (+1000 tonnes in the tank) it's a little less than 200 tonnes of tritium per 500LY jump, and finally with just 1000 tonnes of Tritium in the tank and none in the hold you are looking at less than 150 tonnes of Tritium per 500LY jump.
Regarding FC fuel usage, I found Cmd Travers Fleet Carrier management Spreadsheet to be pretty good. I did however need to add the weight of the Tritium in the fuel tank to get it just right.
Roughly with a full hold of Tritium (and only the Armoury/Refuel/Repair/Cartographics services) you are looking at 250+ tonnes of Tritium per 500LY jump, at 10,000 tonnes (+1000 tonnes in the tank) it's a little less than 200 tonnes of tritium per 500LY jump, and finally with just 1000 tonnes of Tritium in the tank and none in the hold you are looking at less than 150 tonnes of Tritium per 500LY jump.
I was way, way out in the black and reaching the point of no return (from a max storage of 24,000t Tritium) so thought I'd test mining for fuel. It was depressingly tedious! More depressing than any other tedious grindfest I've every ventured near.
It took me 4 hours to mine just 98t of Tritium in a double hotspot. That's not for me. I'm on my way back to the bubble, while having a rethink on my original plans for my FC. Stay local and join the credit grind, or decommission and stick to doing what I want, when I want.
It took me 4 hours to mine just 98t of Tritium in a double hotspot. That's not for me. I'm on my way back to the bubble, while having a rethink on my original plans for my FC. Stay local and join the credit grind, or decommission and stick to doing what I want, when I want.
I have sufficient experience of mining large hauls in short order, but there appears to be a distinct lack of decent drop rates out on the rim. Also, 58t in 30 minutes equals roughly 200 hours of game play to refill a FC. I can think of more enjoyable ways to burn 200 hours!
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I'm not venturing in the galaxy outer rim without being properly organized. I have 14 tonnes of Tritium in my storage and I'm not mining for the need of it but to test how will it be when I will really need it. So I'm planning in advance my moves.
No need to do any math, the FC tells me already the fuel consumption
I'm experienced enough to know where to find high valuable planets when I need the credits but for the rest Stellar Forge is a complete rng until FDEV provides proper tools and gameplay to analyse systems in the Galaxy Map.
I'm tracking my ice ring research and at the moment I had very poor results. I only found 1 hotspot in 1 week.
We can suppose that you have higher chances to find ice rings in systems with "colder" stars, if you jump to system with "O", "A" and "B" class you will most probably end up in metallic rings and metal rich planets (very good for Yttrium and Polonium if that's what you're looking for).
Also higher chances of ice rings are with gas giants, because ice ringed planets are less common and have also lower chances of overlaps. So this assumption exclude also many dwarf class stars, that are very often empty systems or orbited by small rocky or icy planets of the size of a moon.
So I concentrate my research on systems with M-K-G-F stars, but I still keep looking in other systems too.
I would be interested to know instead if you find the ice rings in other type of systems or which other assumptions are you using to locate them.
I think you are just in a bad spot. I don't consider myself such a master of mining (scan-fire-collect, that's what I do) but in tritium hotspot I do 256t in roughly 1h30. In other hotspots it's a bit less, but not that much (I did about 190t of tritium in 2h in a VO hotspot). I would give it another try.
My requirements are to fill 25000t,mining ain’t cutting it as a viable way to refuel these things.
It's not a problem of tritium, even mining 25kt of anything would require ages.
But you can't pretend you can fly through a galaxy with a 5 minutes job. More than a fleet carrier, what you are asking for is a prepaid teleport.
I would be happy to mine Tritium from a single hotspot with the same rate I could mine LTD in the Borann triple spot (250 units/hour) or a bit faster.
It would still require 100 hours to fill the storage space. At the moment it requires 2x the time in a big miner.
I'm pretty sure that if you find a triple tritium hotspot you will get well above the triple LTD hotspot in Borann. As I said, at the moment I'm doing about 180-190t/h in a single hotspot.