Tritium Mining in the black

1000 tones... 4 experienced cmdrs were struggling to gather 500 the other day in a hotspot.
Ofc there will be knights to tell you that git guding is the way to go.
 
1000 tones... 4 experienced cmdrs were struggling to gather 500 the other day in a hotspot.
Ofc there will be knights to tell you that git guding is the way to go.
I might be Borann-biased, but I confirm that it's not straightforward. It happened to me a number of times already to find a whole area of rocks with absolutely nothing useful in a hotspot and I needed to move away a lot before starting finding more. I think it is not as uniform as before.
 
I might be Borann-biased, but I confirm that it's not straightforward. It happened to me a number of times already to find a whole area of rocks with absolutely nothing useful in a hotspot and I needed to move away a lot before starting finding more. I think it is not as uniform as before.
And Borann was a triple hotspot. Imagine a single tritium hotspot out in the black.
 
Id like to see a mechanic where deep core mining can yield like 25-50t per rock.
I am all about the slow move of the FC. I feel this could make me explore an area much more thoroughly.
But, If I have to mine for 5-10 hours to fill my 1000t, which gives me 2kly jump range, the FC isnt really viable.
 
I recently loaded 20,000t of tritium onto my Carrier (and then sold it for about 1bn profit). All services fitted except the secure warehouse, shipyard, and outfitting (not needed for my own ships). Your own ships and modules don't take up tonnage (but stock for sale would).

Don't mine tritium, except in a dire emergency. Buy it.
 
So this is the advice we give on our discord: don't mine Tritium unless you are insane or really love mining.
A full load of Tritium, plus a T-9 load, will get you nearly 60,000ly. Less if more services are added. When purchased it will cost you just 100 million at current prices.
If you get to Beagle, great. The game then has a legitimate means of returning: decommissioning, whereby for a small fee you hand the carrier back to Brewer Corporation. You and your ships are returned to stations in Colonia or the Bubble (specifics to be confirmed).
For most parts of the galaxy however, you can head out nearly 30000ly from the Bubble or Colonia and return home with your carrier without needing to mine.

 
So this is the advice we give on our discord: don't mine Tritium unless you are insane or really love mining.
A full load of Tritium, plus a T-9 load, will get you nearly 60,000ly. Less if more services are added. When purchased it will cost you just 100 million at current prices.
If you get to Beagle, great. The game then has a legitimate means of returning: decommissioning, whereby for a small fee you hand the carrier back to Brewer Corporation. You and your ships are returned to stations in Colonia or the Bubble (specifics to be confirmed).
For most parts of the galaxy however, you can head out nearly 30000ly from the Bubble or Colonia and return home with your carrier without needing to mine.

no doubt, this will work, but it feels like cheating to me.
My goal is to circumnavigate the galaxy. I have 20k tons of trit, and will still spend a little time to cram every ton on I can as well as fill my T9 before I leave. This will give me around a 45k ly range. My plan was to burn 10kt getting out to the edge of the galaxy, then to mine after each fc jump to replensh what I just used.
It would feel like such a waste to get there and then suicide or turn around.
I guess if I can jump 500ly, explore the area for an hour, then mine for an hour and repeat, id be happy
 
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Mining in the black is pure 💩
I came here to the forum right now to highlight how bad it is but since there is already a thread I will reply here:
After long research I've finally found a system with 2 planets with icy rings: a gas giant and an ice world.

The Gas Giant got 1 hot spot of bromelite and 1 hotspot of grandidierite. No tritium, nothing else.
The Ice Planets got ZERO hotspots, nothing, nisba, nada de nada!!

How can an explorer refuel his carrier out of the bubble Frontier??? 🤬

ZERO HOTPOTS:
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no doubt, this will work, but it feels like cheating to me.
My goal is to circumnavigate the galaxy. I have 20k tons of trit, and will still spend a little time to cram every ton on I can as well as fill my T9 before I leave. This will give me around a 45k ly range. My plan was to burn 10kt getting out to the edge of the galaxy, then to mine after each fc jump to replensh what I just used.
It would feel like such a waste to get there and then suicide.
It's not suicide, you are just relocated like you are when sent to a prison. I admit it's an unusual, perhaps unsatisfactory mechanic, but decommissioning is there in black and white as part of the game. If you want to circumnavigate in a carrier or bring it all the way back from Beagle then yes you'll have to mine a vast amount of Tritium. Otherwise there's no need to mine it, that's really my point i guess.

 
It's not suicide, you are just relocated like you are when sent to a prison. I admit it's an unusual, perhaps unsatisfactory mechanic, but decommissioning is there in black and white as part of the game. If you want to circumnavigate in a carrier or bring it all the way back from Beagle then yes you'll have to mine a vast amount of Tritium. Otherwise there's no need to mine it, that's really my point i guess.

It is a valid use. To make this work, you would need to hit the self destruct, which IS suicide in my book lol.
With the goal of exploration, it defeats the purpose though. As soon as I get to my location, my FC has been rendered pretty useless. I suppose it is a UC wherever it runs out of fuel, but how far away from it do I want to go and have to backtrack? All that said, I would like to thank you for giving me an option I havent thought about. While its not what I had planned to do, it give the FC some sort of use.
...I still dont like the suicide though. Maybe I just hop my conda back to colonia...
 
I do have 9 ships in total (3 anacondas, 2 kraith mkII, one asp explorer, one beluga, one T9 and one mamba), plus spare modules. FC says free space 20,636 (83%). That's why I don't really understand what I get when I transfer to the FC...
Odd, I have way more ships than you listed, including 2 cutters, 1 vette, 1 anaconda, 2 T9s, 1 T10, ....list goes on and on.

Checked my live game, here's my breakdown:

25000 total storage
Commodity Market: 0
Tritium Depot: 750
Refuel: 500
Repair: 180
Tritium stored: 10206

total storage remaining: 13,364 (shown in game).

Adds up for me. [edit] Obviously, ships of mine stored do not appear to count against this storage.
 
I do have 9 ships in total (3 anacondas, 2 kraith mkII, one asp explorer, one beluga, one T9 and one mamba), plus spare modules. FC says free space 20,636 (83%). That's why I don't really understand what I get when I transfer to the FC...
And I should have read that more clearly. Transferring to the FC should only be limited by the size of your cargo hold or remaining space in your carrier. Wonder if the transfer window is borked, I'll have to check that later.
 
I think you forgot the possibility to explore systems in the vicinity of your carrier (with an exploration ship of your choice*) for a Tritium hotspot and then remotely order your carrier directly into this ring. The beauty of this method (which is slow - no ifs, ands or buts) is, that it creates a circular dependency between mining and exploration. You do the mining to move your carrier and you explore to find your mining grounds. It's not for those who want to get from A to B as fast as possible. It's a way of living in the galaxy - forever if you want.

*If you have a certain direction in mind, you route and explore in this direction until you find a system with a Tritium ring. This way you also earn your upkeep, en passant so to say. That's what I'm doing since release (I couldn't afford huge amounts of tritium at this point) and it works! I'm totally autarkic and can go wherever I want and as long as I like. That's total freedom my friend! :D

The only requirement is that you need to love both exploring and mining - and no schedule you have to keep...
But if all you want is to circumnavigate the galaxy, that method is probably too slow for that.
OK, so you are doing exactly what my plan always was.
Do you mine per jump, or fill 1000t then jump 4 times?
How long are you mining at a time? I figure 1 jump is 500 LY and that takes about 250t for that jump. If I can get that 250T in say, an hour, I am officially in love
 
No, your numbers are outdated. While it's true that 500LY is the maximum range per jump, it's meanwhile less then 250t per jump (iirc it's roughly about 6 jumps you can do with 1000t). I'm still experimenting, but I guess I will go with the rule: no Tritium in Cargo and only jump with a full fuel tank (1000t). So I always should be on the safe side with a huge reserve. But know what you are doing: If you still plan to circumvent the galaxy in this style, your are looking at years rather than months...

How long I mine is no question to me, as I'm doing it very casually with greater breaks. Depends on your endurance, I for one don't mine with a stop watch. That would drive me crazy. I do various other things in between like watching a movie or play a match of chess or even a CQC match comes to mind. I think mining can burn you out pretty soon if you don't care.
I play once a week for about 3 hours while I sip brandy and also play chess.
I am in no hurry. Id just like to know what my game loop is going to look like.
Thanks for the info you have given.
 
Wish I had kept track of how long exactly with a single hotspot. The next time I searched for a double to set up camp near, the search for a single was hour or so, then maybe 6-8 hours to fill the tank. The double took a couple days to locate then 3-4 hours to fill the tank.
 
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