[RANT]To all the Traders(and some others)

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Common sense indicates that fightin other players will be more difficult than fighting lackluster, preprogrammed AI. Anyways. I may change my opinion if they implement pvp missions available only in Open (for exaple "Assasinate CMDR X"). If those gonna be Open Play exclusive and lucrative then i wont bother with Solo players hauling fish 24/7.

EDIT: But ,yeah. Solo can farm 24/7 and jump Online at any time... just meh.

Common sense eh ? How many units of common sense ? It's entirely subjective.

You don't have any statistical evidence, no one does. Yet you still want you're way of playing to give more reward than another's. Doesn't sound very fair to me.
 
Common sense eh ? How many units of common sense ? It's entirely subjective.

You don't have any statistical evidence, no one does. Yet you still want you're way of playing to give more reward than another's. Doesn't sound very fair to me.

So You want to tell me that in 2014 AI is on par with human pilots?
 
But those effect your prices too, you just dont see them. Can´t see a problem there.
If you bu something in Aulin till it is out of stock i can´t buy it in my solo game.

Yes; and you don't see solo-online players complaining about that,... do you?!

This whole argument (from the PvP crowd), is bogus...It has no legs when you look at it from both directions.:rolleyes:
 
Thing is "those product prices" will affect open online players that face the true simulation risks.

Lets say i take Sidey. I can and did down Wanted NPC's in Cobras or Vipers. Go. Do that vs players. You can easily run away from a NPC Viper in Your full-of-cargo Hauler. Try that vs a player.

Basically. In Solo Online it is easier to do it for You but You affect the market on a same level as the Open Online Hauler pilot running from a PC Viper. I dont like that.

do not play then nuff said

if you do not lke it then do not play

Simulation huh

Devs stated "We want planes in space"

not a true sim no matter what you want

what this is, is a SIMULATION OF THE DEVS IDEA

Not a Simulation of space travel in 3300

remember how many things Popular science got wrong




"We want planes in space"

is all you need to be worried about
 
@ Fedhman Kassad

A couple of points that may interest you :-

1) The traders that trade in solo - most of them are not going to suddenly become PVP'ers overnight simply because they can jump into open play when they want. Some will stay in solo, and trade, some will mix between solo and open and trade.

2) You are not at a disadvantage, here is why, you can get to your pimped up 'conda in solo too if the paranoia is too much for you.

3) The PVP'ers that do get pimped up in solo then jump to open will be relatively few and far between, factor that in with the size of the galaxy, the instancing system in this game and players playing in different time zones and your perceived 'problem' practically vanishes.
 
So You want to tell me that in 2014 AI is on par with human pilots?

I haven't once mention AI, I'm merely pointing out that you're argument is based on a subjective viewpoint.

Although the video shown earlier of a rather skilled pilot, tussling hard with the AI suggests things aren't easy as you think they are. I don't think Being in a cobra or viper would make it much easier in that situation.

Still, you play you're way and I'll play mine and when you get the stats please feel free to tell us all.
 
Singleplayer Nostalgia BBCMicro?

Surprise! Its 2014!(almost 15!). WE ARE ONLINE! Threads about "immersion"? Haha Multiplayer is what immersive we can get! You withdraw multiplayer from a game then you withdraw an immersion from the game. Sad some ppl cant get it.

Yes; 'Immersion' is different for different people...:)
 
Its not about if its easy or not its about "You say You play a simulation game but You actually aren't"

"Simulation is the imitation of the operation of a real-world process or system over time."

Where in that definition is the qualifier requirement that it must have other humans to be a SIM? There is no such qualification.
 
Yes; 'Immersion' is different for different people...:)

Very true, I can be immersed in a good book without other people turning the pages for me ;)

Multiplayer, PVP and immersion do not go hand in hand. I like to play in the PVE group which is immersive and multiplayer but not PvP. Others might not.
 
@ Fedhman Kassad

A couple of points that may interest you :-

1) The traders that trade in solo - most of them are not going to suddenly become PVP'ers overnight simply because they can jump into open play when they want. Some will stay in solo, and trade, some will mix between solo and open and trade.

2) You are not at a disadvantage, here is why, you can get to your pimped up 'conda in solo too if the paranoia is too much for you.

3) The PVP'ers that do get pimped up in solo then jump to open will be relatively few and far between, factor that in with the size of the galaxy, the instancing system in this game and players playing in different time zones and your perceived 'problem' practically vanishes.

What's this sorcery? Are You a Wizard that predicts future? I said it is possible within game mechanics for it to happen. You predict future.
 
Singleplayer Nostalgia BBCMicro?

Surprise! Its 2014!(almost 15!). WE ARE ONLINE! Threads about "immersion"? Haha Multiplayer is what immersive we can get! You withdraw multiplayer from a game then you withdraw an immersion from the game. Sad some ppl cant get it.

And its rather sad that you, (and others), cannot seem to think outside of the box that all those clone MMO's and games have brainwashed you into thinking is the only way to do things.
 
What's this sorcery? Are You a Wizard that predicts future? I said it is possible within game mechanics for it to happen. You predict future.

Not really its called an educated guess from years of MMO's and other games. If I am guilty of 'predicting the future' then so are you, how can you know it will even be a problem? And even if it is a problem, (for you), why the obsession with how others choose to play?
 
This is the direction that FD has set since begining. That's the vision that they've ser and followed. No amount of whining will change that.

Why do you think if someone buys a bigger ship in solo or open suddenly they are a top gun pilot?

Based on your logic you would have practiced dogfights on human players so there is no reason to fear that someone from solo will kill you.

Like I said the modes are set and the horse is no more.
 
And its rather sad that you, (and others), cannot seem to think outside of the box that all those clone MMO's and games have brainwashed you into thinking is the only way to do things.

No. Think having solo and multi not seperated is a bad idea.

EDIT:Oh, and games brainwashed You.
 
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