[RANT]To all the Traders(and some others)

[MajorEpeen]

There still seems to be a few people that think Online: Solo is easier than Online: Open Play.

The main threat comes from NPC's. The vast majority of encounters will be with NPC's unless you are in what is considered a core system.

The game will be more difficult upon release. The only added danger in Open Play will be in an anarchy systems anyway and I suspect that a lot of people will avoid anarchy systems for that reason.

Player encounters will be rare outside the core systems. People who think Online: Solo will be easier after release are in for a bit of a shock.

 

[Seonid]

There still seems to be a few people that think Online: Solo is easier than Online: Open Play.

The most recent Isinona video shows just how fast situations can change, even when against AI pilots.

 

[Monk]

There still seems to be a few people that think Online: Solo is easier than Online: Open Play.

wut? newbz will tremble at the sight of my mad lazer skillz. if tey no wut is gud for them they will stay solo, lolz

/sarcasm

So far, in my experience, going after real players (especially with the beta 2 influx) would be like shooting fish in a barrel. The AI can be very well organized and brutally unforgiving...My solo play has not been any easier. Honestly, the human players (until I understand the AI behavior better) are easier to read and predict.

 

[Corwyn]

I've seen an commented on a number of such threads, so I figured I'd weigh in on this one too.

In the end, DB and FDev will make the game they want to. They've stated clearly, many time, that they are making the game "they" want to play. Within a very small scope, they are taking suggestions for "fixes" from us and the forums, but for the most part, they are not going to deviate from the ddf, no matter how much we ask, beg, bicker, or whine.

I'm all for expressing one's opinions, but seriously, saying ED is not a simulation because others aren't in it is incorrect. Saying it's this or that based on one's own personal views and experiences with other games is wrong too. There are a number of space games out there, each with it's own special something, hopefully they each fill a niche for a segment of the population, find one or two you like and enjoy. Don't waste your time trying to convince DB that your way is best, he won't listen, he's got a plan, and will follow it.

Good day.

 

[Joe Spivey]

... Don't waste your time trying to convince DB that your way is best, he won't listen, he's got a plan, and will follow it...

Is it a 'cunning' plan?

 

[VR jefranklin18]

Another PvP range by somebody not happy with the game because it is not how he wants it. How novel...

 

[Fedhman Kassad]

Another PvP range by somebody not happy with the game because it is not how he wants it. How novel...

No. Because i believe Open Play players should be rawarded more for the very same tasks that are done in solo. Open = more risk=more reward.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

No. Because i believe Open Play players should be rawarded more for the very same tasks that are done in solo. Open = more risk=more reward.

I see you have still failed to respond to my question about how can me and 5 mates teamed up in ALL be deemed to be playing a harder game than me going it all on my own in solo, where I have to pay if i want wingmen for protection.**


**bear in mind 99% of the battles in all will still be the same vs ai battles that are in solo

 

[Capt. Hook]

No. Because i believe Open Play players should be rawarded more for the very same tasks that are done in solo. Open = more risk=more reward.

In an online game mode, your game will be updated constantly and meaningfully and this is enough of a reward I would say vs. offline gaming which will by its very nature be slower to update/synch and so on.

Other than this, I cannot see why one gameplaying style - provided for by the game creators no less- should be any better and thus deserving of better status and reward than any other.

 

[GolemXIV]

Open = more risk = more reward.

You can tell yourself how tough you are and that every win for you is hardly earned. That should be reward enough!

<repeat>There is a solo mode, deal with it or buy another game</repeat>

 

[Joe Spivey]

...Other than this, I cannot see why one gameplaying style - provided for by the game creators no less- should be any better and thus deserving of better status and reward than any other.

Because he doesn't get to club baby seals.

 

[Milky82]

No. Because i believe Open Play players should be rawarded more for the very same tasks that are done in solo. Open = more risk=more reward.

I'd like to see some actual statistical proof of this notion that online solo is easier than online all.

Without any tangible evidence, it's just ones perception of what you think is easy or hard.

 

[Phosphora]

What will be a thrilling, absorbing, roller coaster of excitement for some will be a dull and tedious snorefest for others. You won't get everyone to agree about marmite, so let's not expect it here.

I have no problems with others consenting to PvP, but I prefer the gradual progress of trading/mining/exploring, and seeing my character become a little stronger each day. I have very slow reactions, so PvP would be a random event that usually ended with my character's death. Very boring.

If Frontier are going to get money from me in the future, they will need to accommodate people like me. With Mobius's group approaching 400 players, I'm not alone.

I don't care what others think of my play style. I'll continue to roll as I like.

Cheers, Phos.

 

[Fedhman Kassad]

I'd like to see some actual statistical proof of this notion that online solo is easier than online all.

Without any tangible evidence, it's just ones perception of what you think is easy or hard.

Common sense indicates that fightin other players will be more difficult than fighting lackluster, preprogrammed AI. Anyways. I may change my opinion if they implement pvp missions available only in Open (for exaple "Assasinate CMDR X"). If those gonna be Open Play exclusive and lucrative then i wont bother with Solo players hauling fish 24/7.

EDIT: But ,yeah. Solo can farm 24/7 and jump Online at any time... just meh.

 

[Joe Spivey]

Common sense indicates that fightin other players will be more difficult than fighting lackluster, preprogrammed AI. Anyways. I may change my opinion if they implement pvp missions available only in Open (for exaple "Assasinate CMDR X"). If those gonna be Open Play exclusive and lucrative then i wont bother with Solo players hauling fish 24/7.

EDIT: But ,yeah. Solo can farm 24/7 and jump Online at any time... just meh.

Dawwwwwww, don't you just want to give him a great big hug and tell him everything will be ok.

 

[Seonid]

Common sense indicates that fightin other players will be more difficult than fighting lackluster, preprogrammed AI.

The current videos prove otherwise. I look forward to your posting on this YouTube video about how bad the AI and the human pilot are.

 

[Fedhman Kassad]

Dawwwwwww, don't you just want to give him a great big hug and tell him everything will be ok.

Seems Galaxy will be totally empty till solo grinders grind till Anaconda fully pimped and switch to Open. Gotta start to think about this game as strictly single player but then why Open Play in the first place?

 

[Fedhman Kassad]

The current videos prove otherwise. I look forward to your posting on this YouTube video about how bad the AI and the human pilot are.

Guy gimping him self by using FAoff all the time. This video proves nothing but "Yea u have difficult times if AI flies a way better equipped ship. Anyways "Cobra crashed from 92% hull to 2%". How is this proving highly skilled AI?

Nevermind. Gotta see what future will bring. It will bring pro-solo play-grinders to open play after they have grinded till fully pimped Anacondas. Thats for sure.

 

[Corwyn]

Seems Galaxy will be totally empty till solo grinders grind till Anaconda fully pimped and switch to Open. Gotta start to think about this game as strictly single player but then why Open Play in the first place?

DB said it many times, co-op play.

 

[Seonid]

Guy gimping him self by using FAoff all the time. This video proves nothing but "Yea u have difficult times if AI flies a way better equipped ship. Anyways "Cobra crashed from 92% hull to 2%". How is this proving highly skilled AI?

Oh well, I did try.