Again, no. Not until FDev fixes C&P
Question for Open players who don't like PVP/ganking... help me understand
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what does C&P have to do with us having a pvp match?
90% of the pvp I do is in anarchy systems where no one get in trouble for anything.
I cannot, by principle, participate in a gameplay loop that can basically allow me to mass murder other players while I don't suffer that same level of risk at all.
thats odd. well if you ever change your mind, hit me up.
I don't think you understand what ganking means.
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(transitive, Internet, online gaming, slang) To kill much weaker players in an online video game in such a way that they cannot defend themselves. Common methods include attacking in much greater numbers or taking a well-equipped high-level character to assault players in a starting area.
Back in the early '90s in the hood we used the term to mean forcibly taking/stealing something from someone. YMMV
But yeah, in this game and presumably others it has generally taken on a somewhat different meaning. Got a bit of a scoff and smirk from me when I first started seeing the term used in this game. Kids these days...
The same even happens in BGS.
Someone expands into a system where they don't know another cmdr or group is present, pushes for control, then wonders why their own systems are suddenly coming under attack. Then they log onto inara and see a series of unread messages, first reaching out and saying hi, then a "guys, cut it out", and finally a "right, you asked for it."
Yeah. If anything, I'm more scared of AMD's garbage graphics drivers crashing on me and ending up getting accused of clogging for it.
Hey welcome, allow me to explain, Its a choice between quick shortcuts or trial and error, latter being much more fun, I know players who are into exploration, are magically immune to space madness and completely skip past PvP, some are into trophy hunting, some are excellent fighters that i fought with or alongside (most are retired since) but none required godfather to be successful in what they do.
Open isn't dangerous. It's over a year since another player tried to attack me. It's happened three times (well, one time I wasn't sure) in those three years. It's easy to escape when it happens.
True , but those who catch and kill all the fish , even the smallest minnow can't claim to be the best fishermen either .
Top tier pvp it is not, it's just killing the little fish sometimes. Then we hear complaints the pool is getting empty
I don't understand either how someone could think throwing PvE and PvP players into one mode was a good idea.
This is a perfect example, to me, of how the game often fails to really support or even inform you that other CMDRs are in the area or doing things. It's wild that, if I were to get into BGS, I'd need to rely on something like Inara's messaging system to tell me if another player or group was trying to compete for the same system I was interested in.
Reminds me of how I played the first week of the game without ever seeing another player. They might have been around - my situational awareness back then was low, and I barely had all my keybinds setup, let alone the understanding of how the Comms History panel could be used to inform me that other players were present (and I'd not heard at all about the CTRL + B trick to show the bandwidth gauge, which of course is the most reliable way of knowing when another player is around). I didn't even know the difference in radar icon between players and NPCs. Anyways, the first player I was actually aware of, just happened to be the guy who ganked me. I'm probably not alone in that, either.
Again, not trying to tell anyone they're doing it wrong or otherwise, just pointing out how often the game's mechanics seem to make it hard to find the cooperation that more PVE-oriented players are seeking. Maybe the social hubs described for Odyssey will help with this, who knows?
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You don't need inara, you don't need any 3rd party stuff. I do all my communication in game, via text. Some people I communicate with here if they aren't in game.
What the 3rd party stuff like inara (which is an excellent resource) do is add to the game.
Won't read the whole 6 pages of stuff, just will add my 2c to the mix: I played in open for some time and meeting another commander in game added to the feeling of "living galaxy". I got totally blown up in Deciat two or three times (was a good sport and returned to try again with two winged lads from RoA vs my unengineered ship, and they kicked my butt again (no comms though, so a bit lame). Another time was for powerplay reasons, with proper comms and warning, also tried again 
... With current money making methods it doesn't matter anymore, but in these times, eating a 20mil rebuy meant getting thrown back a few hours of earning credits "for a living". So switched to solo.
So to answer the OP - open means there's a chance that your galaxy will be more alive. I would prefer the interactions between players weren't just hardpoint - related. I'd love to offer a mission to someone or help a stranger out.
... With current money making methods it doesn't matter anymore, but in these times, eating a 20mil rebuy meant getting thrown back a few hours of earning credits "for a living". So switched to solo.So to answer the OP - open means there's a chance that your galaxy will be more alive. I would prefer the interactions between players weren't just hardpoint - related. I'd love to offer a mission to someone or help a stranger out.
This is more of an indictment of fdev's awful lack of in-game support for any kind of community stuff - even system chat is relatively new and I'd call that bare minimum.
Even Kingdom of Loathing lets you send messages to other players when they're offline and that's a bleedin' browser game. In ED the only thing that players can use to communicate directly to players that aren't logged in is squadron announcements, leading to farcical situations like having to do a bunch of crimes in a ship named "msg me on inara pls" to communicate via the bounty board.
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No. Look, loads of people think the game's shallow & missing features, but it isn't (well not as much as is suggested
). There's stuff it doesn't do well (the inara charts that track faction inf history are fantastic) but it is all there, and I think it's supposed to be difficult to get a huge number of people organised using only the in-game tools. Squadron chat was an enormous leap forward in that respect, as was the faction summary page for a squadron.Organising stuff outside the game, well it's outside the game
Your Cmdr doesn't have access to that stuff, only the player behind the Cmdr does.
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There are some nice stories in this thread, however, the bit that bothers me is "I was blown up by these people (normally with no idea why), I then spoke to them and they opened my eyes to engineers/builds/combat styles/whatever."
Why does the first bit have to happen? I know it can, so it does, but why is a players induction into the 'ways of open' being blown up first?
The sentiment in there OP is, (paraphrasing) I thought these guys were a bit harsh but then they were so nice to teach me about the game. Well, he stuck around to find that out. I suggest many don't, they're left with the impression that OPEN is murderland.
Why don't these nice people in open find a new CMDR in a paper ship and comms them to make the offer of learning the way? Why does the first part have to be blow them up?
There is something weird about the idea that destruction will happen because we're all flying around with ships with guns on so you should have to expect that you will get shot at. I know people don't like real life analogies, but is that how it works in a country that has open carry guns? Every time you step out of the door, you should expect to get shot at?
The point is moot in my case, I just don't fly in open, for many reasons, not just 'fear' that I'll get blown up, in fact, that hardly registers at all.
Why does the first bit have to happen? I know it can, so it does, but why is a players induction into the 'ways of open' being blown up first?
The sentiment in there OP is, (paraphrasing) I thought these guys were a bit harsh but then they were so nice to teach me about the game. Well, he stuck around to find that out. I suggest many don't, they're left with the impression that OPEN is murderland.
Why don't these nice people in open find a new CMDR in a paper ship and comms them to make the offer of learning the way? Why does the first part have to be blow them up?
There is something weird about the idea that destruction will happen because we're all flying around with ships with guns on so you should have to expect that you will get shot at. I know people don't like real life analogies, but is that how it works in a country that has open carry guns? Every time you step out of the door, you should expect to get shot at?
The point is moot in my case, I just don't fly in open, for many reasons, not just 'fear' that I'll get blown up, in fact, that hardly registers at all.
is it?
Guess you are familiar with one of the most notorious gankers and their major blunder (just replace blunder with the proper F word).
Skip to 8:57 if you dont have time to watch: Thought it was an easy kill, turned out to be a hacker.
The famous last words of someone who just took a beating.
A Fair and square beating from a Mostly Harmless Anaconda while he was streaming.