Newcomer / Intro Way of finding missions?

Al4ric

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Hi,

So I just started my journey and in my first system and ones that were very close it was pretty easy to find "bounty hunting" missions (easiest ones that paid something like 20k-30k). Also any pirates I found along the way I could defeat with my initial sidewinder. But I saw on youtube, that "Ohm City" is very good for a home base. So I spend couple of hours flying there. And because of numbers of systems I passed, I sold my navigation data for something like 800k and bought some ship for around 400k and now I have 4 weapons instead of 2 and felt like a king.

But all bounty hunting missions I could find was for "wings". So I thought I will just go to RES (high) site and try my luck there. But the first "wanted" I found, after shooting at him - he took my shields and my hull to 50% in a metter of seconds. Luckly I escaped. So my question is: is there a way of finding easier missions or easier sites with less dangerous pirates? As I mentioned I'm at the moment in LHS 20.

Or should I just randomly jump from system to system and check all stations for missions?
 

Tyres O'Flaherty

Tyres O'Flaherty
If you can find a low res, try that to start with. But, if it were me, I'd try and get some engineering done first. However, that takes some doing at the beginning so...

... in a RES (except hazardous), you can follow the cops around and shoot at what they do - this way you won't draw too much aggro and the bad guys will go after the cops.

The missions do rotate though - non-wing ones will appear at some point. I think the refresh rate of missions is about 10 minutes.

EDIT - yes, indeed - welcome! @@@07
 
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Para Handy

Para Handy
Al4ric said:
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But all bounty hunting missions I could find was for "wings". So I thought I will just go to RES (high) site and try my luck there. But the first "wanted" I found, after shooting at him - he took my shields and my hull to 50% in a metter of seconds. Luckly I escaped. So my question is: is there a way of finding easier missions or easier sites with less dangerous pirates? As I mentioned I'm at the moment in LHS 20.

Or should I just randomly jump from system to system and check all stations for missions?
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1. Pick your opponent to suit your rank and equipment.

2. Post your ship build (use the https://coriolis.io/ website to do so) and we can comment on your situation and offer tips and advice.

3. With missions, the ability of your target is related to the recommended rank of the mission. So a high-paying assassination mission will probably entail dealing with a capable enemy.

4. As @Tyres O'Flaherty says - you can go to a RES and follow the security forces, engaging their targets when greatly weakened. This will give you the bounty and up your combat stats.

5. Seriously, do number 2 so we can be of some use.

BTW - welcome and good luck (y)
 

Al4ric

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Para Handy said:
1. Pick your opponent to suit your rank and equipment.

2. Post your ship build (use the https://coriolis.io/ website to do so) and we can comment on your situation and offer tips and advice.

3. With missions, the ability of your target is related to the recommended rank of the mission. So a high-paying assassination mission will probably entail dealing with a capable enemy.

4. As @Tyres O'Flaherty says - you can go to a RES and follow the security forces, engaging their targets when greatly weakened. This will give you the bounty and up your combat stats.

5. Seriously, do number 2 so we can be of some use.

BTW - welcome and good luck (y)
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Thank you for reply guys. As for the build, I'm not in front of my console, but it is faaaaaar from perfect. I just bought at the moment what was available and what i could afford. As I said, after I bought my ship I had about 400k for the rest. So for example, as I wanted two thermal weapons (for shields) and two kinetic - in my medium harpoints are sitting small lasers (don't remeber which ones), as I could not find station that would sell medium in my price range. For kinetic - I was torn between missles and fragment cannon. As I never used any, I decided to go for fragment canons as I'm afraid that small numbers of missles would be not enough to finish any ship.
 

aRJay

aRJay
The numbers and capabilities of the opponents you meet at the various sites will vary somewhat due to random but in general they follow this order.
  1. Navigation Beacon / Low Resource Extraction Site (RES)
  2. RES
  3. High RES
  4. Compromised Nav Beacon / Hazardous RES
Where 1 is easiest and 4 hardest. There are no security ships in 4 so you are pretty much on your own, the NPCs do fight each other but that doesn’t mean they won’t gang up on you.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
Al4ric said:
Thank you for reply guys. As for the build, I'm not in front of my console, but it is faaaaaar from perfect. I just bought at the moment what was available and what i could afford. As I said, after I bought my ship I had about 400k for the rest. So for example, as I wanted two thermal weapons (for shields) and two kinetic - in my medium harpoints are sitting small lasers (don't remeber which ones), as I could not find station that would sell medium in my price range. For kinetic - I was torn between missles and fragment cannon. As I never used any, I decided to go for fragment canons as I'm afraid that small numbers of missles would be not enough to finish any ship.
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Well, assuming that you bought a Cobra MkIII (from the costs you mention) then yes you are not going to be able to enhance it too much with that remaining 400K.

So going to a high-RES and tagging along with the security forces will soon give you enough in bounties to start enhancing your experience.

Missiles are not much cop really and frag cannons look like they should be great when you see their class letter but in reality their range restriction and low fire-rate make them not great (they were worthwhile in the starter-zone as other kinetics in there are low-grade - but you are out of the paddling-pool now ;) ). As @Tyres O'Flaherty says. multi-cannons are great for dispensing kinetic damage once the shields have been stripped. Until you can afford the more expensive lasers, just fit what you can afford so as to get your "tag" in on a pirate that is being handed another one by the security forces.

P.S. One other thing - frag cannons can cause you to inadvertently clip those security ships - resulting of course in you becoming public enemy number 1 and the lot of them hounding you down and introducing you to the rebuy screen.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
If you're that strapped for cash and want to focus on combat, get a Viper Mk III instead of a Cobra Mk III. The Cobra is multi-purpose, the Viper is pure combat - about 200k cheaper, but takes the same weapons as the Cobra (2 small and 2 med).
 

Tyres O'Flaherty

Tyres O'Flaherty
A rate the thrusters. A or B the power plant. D rate life support. Change the fragment cannons to multicannons.

Just a quick couple of tweaks ;)

Edit : A rate the FSD, D rate the sensors

Just what I would do. Others will have further help
 
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Para Handy

Para Handy
Al4ric said:
I finaly had a chance to look. Here is the link:
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Hmm DbS eh? Never got along with that ship. However - if you are just using it for in-system combat, fit the best thrusters you can afford - D rate the sensors, life support and FSD if you are not jumping (those changes are mainly for weight) - You need to fit better shields if you are going to fight, 3C bi-weaves at the very least until you can afford 3A. I would fit multi-cannon instead of frags and I would split kinetic and thermal to one medium and one small each - just to balance things.

You will soon have enough to properly upgrade stuff if you do the RES-sniping.

Maybe some combat guru will come along and comment on the DbS for combat - as I say it isn't something I would use - better off with a Viper III or IV to my mind but I am no fighter.
 

Al4ric

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Well, I'm getting a little bit desperate here. I checked all the stations in this system - not a single bounty mission for my level. I flied to neighbouring high tech system - still no bounty missions anywhere. So I used FSS to scan for signals and found one that said activity was "bounty hunting" and it was threat 1 (from my understanding threat 0 is no enemies at all). A lot of ships were shooting there so I targeted someone in sidewinder that was "wanted" and it also said "mostly harmless". Started shooting - then all other ships started to shoot at me. In about 45 seconds I was dead. If I hadn't had money for re-buy I would probably quit.
After I have calmed down I selected RES (low) site (although it said that human threat was 2 which can be too much for my level) and I thought I would wait for some pirate to be almost dead and start to shoot them than (as you guys suggested). But after waiting about 5 minutes - not a single ship showed.

So, can somebody point me to more "noob friendly" system? Meanwhile I think I will go back to FSS, since this seems to be the only way for me to make any money in this game. And I will start looking for this Cobra MKIII (although I thought that since this ship is more expensive it should be better).
 

Thwarptide

Banned
Thwarptide
Al4ric said:
so I targeted someone in sidewinder that was "wanted" and it also said "mostly harmless". Started shooting - then all other ships started to shoot at me
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Wish I was there to observe the situation unfold. But it's my guess that you targeted a wanted piece of filth who was in a wing with other pieces of filth.
Shoot at one (before the cops) and they'll all start shooting at you in turn.
The key is picking your victims wisely. You can easily tell if they're in a wing.
But it could also be because you started a fight in low Res site, it became a free for all and they gang banged you. Doubtful. I've never seen or heard of it happening, but I'm sure it does somewhere.
If and when you do find missions they will be offered according to your rank (and ship?). They would be funner that going kaboom, that's for sure.
As for missions vs just going to a high security resource extraction site (HI RES) I'd go with the Hires. (STAY AWAY FROM LOW RES there are less security forces) Follow the cops but don't shoot first. Let them start the fight (they'll take most of the return fire) then you can start shooting, you'll get bounties (big ones) which pay more than missions and you'll rank up faster. BUT BE EXTREMELY DILIGENT NOT TO TARGET THE GREEN SECURITY FORCES. If you accidentally shoot at one, they'll turn on you, KABOOM and you'll end up paying a small fine, ship insurance copay while you're in jail.

BTW, welcome to ED; and more so The Forums. Everyone is here to answer any questions, no matter how small or seemingly silly. We're here to help you succeed by increasing your knowledge in a game with a steep learning. Almost everyone here has had to rely at one time or another, on the experience of others in this venue. They've all been in your shoes.
Best wishes for your continued developments and success.
 
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aRJay

aRJay
I would aim to upgrade your modules like this

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Essentially what @Tyres O'Flaherty suggested.

You don't need missions to go bounty hunting just visit RESs etc and scan the ships and shoot the wanted ones, for the moment just shoot wanted ones security are attacking, as long as you hit the target within 10 seconds of when it explodes you will get the bounty.

Keep an eye on the security ships if they start being replaced with more powerful ships or more of them keep arriving then it is likely that there will be more and more dangerous wanted ships around.
 

BradHann

BradHann
The types of missions available depend on things like system state and economy type. Have a look at this subforum for details. Be prepared for an information overload - it's a complex system.
 

Tyres O'Flaherty

Tyres O'Flaherty
You could try using the FSS to search for transient signal sources and try ones that say "weapons fire" with "threat 1" or "threat 2".

Those sources are found at the far left of the FSA bar.

One word of advice: don't give up! You will get there, it's just practice. And combat, for me at least, was a discipline I didn't tackle for ages. The tutorial was too difficult for me :D

You could try other stuff like exploration or mining. Mining actually helped with manoeuvring the ship - it taught my hands and fingers what to do when.

Also, if you do a few easy cargo delivery missions, you'll help build a solid credit base to buy better modules and, indeed, ships. Nothing wrong with DBx but you might find something more to your liking.

Lastly, when you feel ready, seek out engineering. That will help too but that's a whole other thing entirely :D

Good luck!
 
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Al4ric

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Wow! Thanks to all of you. I did not expect such a support. Lots of great advices. If this game has such a great community - it's definitely worth to stick around. Yeah, there's lot to learn, but I can see it will be worth it. I expected replays like "Get gud noob!" or to that effect. But I got a lot of support and merit! Thank you again!

And yes, this high-low thing with RES sites is confusing. My first understanding was that high means high security - so there will be lots of police (lots of help with bad guys). That is why I started there, but someone here said that I should start with low ones as those are easier. So that is confusing.
 

Craith

Volunteer Moderator
Craith
The order is Low RES - (Normal) RES - High RES - Hazardous RES. left has weaker ships with lower bounties on them, the hazardous has no security ships in it. If you let the police shoot the bad boys (and girls) first, you can go into a High without danger. Just don't take any cargo with you.

Try to update your shields, Bi-Weaves are still stronger than your E-rated ones and regenerate much faster, or just higher rated ones - C to B depending on your budget.

The good thing with bountyhunting is that you do not need to have a mission to do it - the mission is just extra gravy on top, the bounties itself let you make money on their own.
Don't blow up though, you lose all bounties you haven't turned in and get a rebuy.
 
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