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Roadmap Roundup - September 25th, 2020 - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42
Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.
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Object Push & Pull got pushed off the roadmap, and pulled from the roundup
Edit: and it's a mistake with the roadmap. Tier zero!
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/izqg91/roadmap_roundup_september_25th/g6kih04/
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It never actually disappeared for me. A CIG employee has responded that it is a visual glitch on the roadmap and they will fix it.Roadmap Roundup - September 25th, 2020 - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42
Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.robertsspaceindustries.com
Object Push & Pull got pushed off the roadmap, and pulled from the roundup
His original mansion was called "Commanders Ranch" in Austin, a bit of googling will provide some pics. Its interesting that he sold it around the time he and his lawyer pal were finding the German movie tax scheme no longer possible, but great that his massive royalties from Wing Commander sales on GOG have allowed him to build a new mansion all these years later while he's only taking a modest c-suite executive salary out of the money people gave him to, ya know release that game thing. Probably barely covers his porche petrol...Poor dudes doing a full "40 hour week" to make it happen. Must be tough.
We rent with Sandi!!I'd rather suggest that the rental of the floating gin palace parked at Monaco harbour was unwittingly gifted by the backers, not Sandi
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Why is that every time I see the name, Ortwin Freyermuth... I think it's missing 'House Slytherin' after it? 
On a totally unrelated and off topic subject..when I was playing on the Xbox one I named my Xbox 'Voldemort' for use when in Xbox live chat...since I was running the Kinect voice control thing, any mention of a phrase containing the word 'Xbox', used to shut my Xbox down or change TV channels or something equally ridiculous. Because a mate of mine from those days used external speakers rather than a headset...if I mimicked his accent and said "Xbox off!" over live chat...It turned his Xbox off
On a totally unrelated and off topic subject..when I was playing on the Xbox one I named my Xbox 'Voldemort' for use when in Xbox live chat...since I was running the Kinect voice control thing, any mention of a phrase containing the word 'Xbox', used to shut my Xbox down or change TV channels or something equally ridiculous. Because a mate of mine from those days used external speakers rather than a headset...if I mimicked his accent and said "Xbox off!" over live chat...It turned his Xbox off
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Anyone think had CR only gotten a few million and been forced to stick with the original plan by strong investors, it could have turned out differently? Even if longer than 2 years to first release? Or if you knew history, that he had matured enough and learned enough to do things differently than at origins and digital anvil?
The GDC demo was pretty good. But even the strong investor scenario is questionable to me, given we can clearly see how things went once money started flowing. Also knowing the kickstarter demo was built by Crytek for their sales pitch and not by CR team as claimed, that CR relationship to SG was kept secret, and CryEngine map sizes seemed totally insufficient to me, even with streaming. Had my strong doubt hat on from the start.
The GDC demo was pretty good. But even the strong investor scenario is questionable to me, given we can clearly see how things went once money started flowing. Also knowing the kickstarter demo was built by Crytek for their sales pitch and not by CR team as claimed, that CR relationship to SG was kept secret, and CryEngine map sizes seemed totally insufficient to me, even with streaming. Had my strong doubt hat on from the start.
Seems like the regular SC rework treadmill on multiple fronts. Wow.
"Bring it up to modern standards", like CR said, stale after 3 years.
Docking tubes sound OK, maybe even cool, although removing the need for EVA between ships.
9 years in working on initial parameters of armor and shields.
"Active development!"
Good times.
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So the shield rework (which will use the visuals system from the atmospheric re-entry rework) is getting rolled out for the bespoke reworked shields on each ship...
That whole spread of dumped high-end art (alone) immediately made me think of this Borderlands 2 prototype (from the article in your signature)
A headless 3rd-person model with a pizza-cutter glued to her first-person finger...
That is how you prototype stuff goddamit. Not this insane conveyor belt of shiny getting fed into a garbage compacter at CIG.
I dunno if the 'physicalised damage' they’re talking about there will involve visual changes when it rolls out to all ships. But given Chris has been involved apparently, I’m gonna say yes
EDIT: How many times have they reworked all the HUDs now? Is this the third time?
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CryEngine is fine for a single player, heavy cutscene based, empty space game with some vehicle battle type stuff. For an MMO with supposedly unlimited number of ships on screen and huge maps, not so much.
Of course, image quality is not so much of a plus for CryEngine as Unreal Engine is used for actual TV and movie CGI these days and is much easier to work with. But what does the visual production industry know better than Chris.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUnxzVOs3rk
Of course, image quality is not so much of a plus for CryEngine as Unreal Engine is used for actual TV and movie CGI these days and is much easier to work with. But what does the visual production industry know better than Chris.
Lolno. After just about every project, he has said the same thing about what he has “learned” only to then go on and do the exact same thing all over again. Having a strong producer guiding his hand and forcing him to get things done might have worked, except that the one lesson he seemingly took to heart was that he really doesn't want a producer to tell him what to do. The fact that all the good(ish) things he ever did were done under constraint and external control is completely lost on him.
No!
simple as that. Star Citizens success never was a question of funding. We only discovered in hindsight that the man making all those promises and racking in other peoples money had no badword idea what he was doing from the start.
Would Chris Roberts ve only gotten 5 or 6 million total and were forced to do it with that the project would be dead since 2014 and more then 300 million dollar would ve gone into more worthwhile and promising venues. Star Citizen is a sad and brutal story of "throwing good money after bad". If we dont assume a scam from the very start as some here propose...just a case of incompetence and narcisstic tendencies then we can say that Chris Robert gave it his best shot and Star Citizen 2020 is the result of that. Less funding wouldnt ve produced "more" or "better" results. You see Chris go-to move today...he is blaming others for his failing never himself. He would ve done the same back then and simply walked away. Star Citizen already received insane amounts of time and funding....what good did that do? And what good will more time and more funding do when the core is rotten and riddled with incompetence?
The correct question should be "would Elite Dangerous (or NMS or any of the other promising space games) be a kind of Star Citizen today if it received this level of funding instead?". A studio with a competent crew, a competent leader and somebody at the top who has the integrity to accept his limits? There are actually a lot of possible candidates who could ve made something out of this opportunity. If it would ve been Frontier and David Braben can be argued but we know CIG and Chris Roberts isnt it and if they dont deliver Star Citizen in all its glorious promise (to my surprise and that of the world I m sure) then they never had a chance to begin with.
Somebody else mentioned this already. Caulders and the other investors are not video game lovers or space lovers. They have never bothered with these things before in a public manner. They do this for monetary reasons and hoping for a successful SQ42 release might not be their primary concern in all this. We dont know the details of their contract, dont know the kind of leverage they have over CIG and we most definitely dont know what their game plan is in this. If they have some kind of controlling power and a SQ42release is somehow important to them then we can say that their and backer interest overlap for the moment but that doesnt mean they are on our side in all this.
But its about time that people understand and accept the reality of the situation. Star Citizen utilizes the wrong engine, it doesnt have the coding foundation to allow for the things the game is supposed to be to come true. It struggles without even reaching alpha development level and listening to the devs makes me think that the people in charge dont know what they are doing nor do they understand the issues at hand themselves. All this fantasizing about "revolutionary break-throughs" or other nonsense that is to be expected in time....all born out of the inability to acknowledge the reality of the situation. You could call SC just "Paradise" instead and be on the same level...blind devotion, trust and limitless hope combined with some personal sacrifice (money) and misery (testing). All the shilling and denying doesnt change the facts and the facts we do have look ugly.
The biggest surprise to me is that Star Citizen went such a long way all based on some visual fliff-fluff, hollow and empty and barebones and a whole lot of lies and deception. HOW have people not realized whats happening earlier? How in the time of the internet and humanities collected knowledge at ones fingertips can be so many be so confused and blind?
I am probably the stupid one for thinking that this would certainly be impossible in todays time and age right? Just not sure the jokes on me for thinking "people cant be so stupid, so dumb and so narrow-minded" to allow such a thing anymore. But the world is actually full of far more extreme examples. So I shouldnt be surprised.
But yes I suppose my statement is a little rash when we dont have a definite answer to all this yet. Well...I m committing to my opinion and if SC against my personal belief releases a worthy space game then I m ready to eat my hat or my words. The internet is forever and all my walls of text explaining WHY STAR CITIZEN ISNT GOING TO BE MADE will stand there for everybody to see....how utterly wrong I got it for all this time. And apart from the short-living shaming and laughs I m sure all our lives will continue without further impact. Thats how unimportant Star Citizen is in todays life
So I dont get why anybody would feel threatend or attacked by what I write ^^
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Probably just a minor market readjustment.
The game itself is still free - as there isn't one.
It just shows that in every failure of his life, he never took the responsebilities for his own actions. Instead he identified somebody else as the responsible factor, somebody who didnt let him do what he wanted and prevented his dream from becoming a reality. Its a publisher, its some old opponent, its the haters, its his devs who cant do as he says, its the pressure, its the government.
Why does somebody like him get such an opportunity? A window like Star Citizen is suppopsed to go to some underdog, to somebody who might fail but will give it his best shot and the attempt alone will make the possible failure worthwhile already. Thats not CIGs story. I know of so many indi devs slaving away at their pet project for far longer then CIG already....alone without a team, in their freetime and showing far more promise and skill/capability on a shoestring budget and next to no attention from the broader public.
Its so unfair when all you need is a shiny picture and a load of verbal dung paired with zero respect for people to become successful. Its unfair and cruel and totally the world we are living in. Why am I still surprised when I m almost 50 and have seen so much misery? I guess the joke is on me in the end sadsmile