I've lost it all....the exploration data gone.....

[Seph79]

So I'm trying to find the words to type right now, I'm a bit beside myself as to what just happened.
I generally play in solo mode, to scared to venture out into PVP and I find I enjoy myself without the pressure. I investigate one low risk degraded emissions and I get turned minced within seconds by a ship that turned up out of nowhere....I have NO idea what the heck happened there...
What's really got me bummed though is I had a lot of data on planets and systems on that ship, as a beginner, obviously not worth that much, maybe five million if I sold it all but to me it's the fact that I worked long and hard on it...gone.

I have a question though, can I backtrack and rescan all of those planets or is it a one shot type thing?

 

[varonica]

I have a question though, can I backtrack and rescan all of those planets or is it a one shot type thing?

Sure, done it myself once for 5kly, just set the route plotter to "visited stars" and plot to the first star where the data went missing. Oh yes, and never enter a USS unless it says "zero threat", I have never been attacked at one of those!

 

[Jmanis]

So I'm trying to find the words to type right now, I'm a bit beside myself as to what just happened.
I generally play in solo mode, to scared to venture out into PVP and I find I enjoy myself without the pressure. I investigate one low risk degraded emissions and I get turned minced within seconds by a ship that turned up out of nowhere....I have NO idea what the heck happened there...
What's really got me bummed though is I had a lot of data on planets and systems on that ship, as a beginner, obviously not worth that much, maybe five million if I sold it all but to me it's the fact that I worked long and hard on it...gone.

I have a question though, can I backtrack and rescan all of those planets or is it a one shot type thing?

You can go back and rescan all those, if you have info on where you went. It's only once it's handed in that it's done.

If you're new to things, and only had about 5m, sounds like you were exploring near the populated bubble. In that case, sounds like a murderhobo NPC followed you out of SC into the degraded emissions USS. Generally, if you're in an exploration vessel not kitted out for combat, don't go to USS, as NPCs will either spawn in the USS or follow you into the USS as mentioned, even if it's Threat 0.

 

[Seph79]

Sure, done it myself once for 5kly, just set the route plotter to "visited stars" and plot to the first star where the data went missing. Oh yes, and never enter a USS unless it says "zero threat", I have never been attacked at one of those!

Awesome, thanks for that info. I mean I'm super green, even though I've put a good 150+ hours in, it's all been "safe" exploration and mining, a little combat but the fact that I've really only been shot down a few times, this is my first real loss because of all of that saved and unsold data. I've replaced the ship exactly, didnt lose any important cargo. I'll do that visited stars method though...I'm finicky like that.

 

[Seph79]

You can go back and rescan all those, if you have info on where you went. It's only once it's handed in that it's done.

If you're new to things, and only had about 5m, sounds like you were exploring near the populated bubble. In that case, sounds like a murderhobo NPC followed you out of SC into the degraded emissions USS. Generally, if you're in an exploration vessel not kitted out for combat, don't go to USS, as NPCs will either spawn in the USS or follow you into the USS as mentioned, even if it's Threat 0.

Actually now you mention it, that looks exactly like what happened. I just remember disengaging supercruise, seeing a couple of items to loot then out of nowhere I'm dead in a few seconds from some NPC named Herron...or something. Yes, I had a basic ship still, didn't really lose much and I'm in "safe space"

 

[Captain Willard]

Welcome to the club.

 

[Hawk of Battle]

If it's all just bubble data (which, seeing as you were attacked at a USS, seems likely) then it was all presumably already discovered by others, right? So it's not like you're losing out on getting your name on any newly discovered stuff. Just fly around the bubble some more and you'll make all that money back and more in no time. I honestly wouldn't even worry about it too much. And if it's only 5 mil... You can make that back on 1 system.

Just wait till you get 20 thousand lightyears out and make hundreds of jumps and find thousands of worlds, then worry about making it back to safely sell it all.

 

[CMDR SleepyDelegate]

If it's all just bubble data (which, seeing as you were attacked at a USS, seems likely) then it was all presumably already discovered by others, right? So it's not like you're losing out on getting your name on any newly discovered stuff. Just fly around the bubble some more and you'll make all that money back and more in no time. I honestly wouldn't even worry about it too much. And if it's only 5 mil... You can make that back on 1 system.

Just wait till you get 20 thousand lightyears out and make hundreds of jumps and find thousands of worlds, then worry about making it back to safely sell it all.

I second that...

5M is NOTHING... I wouldn't even bother to revisit those systems... Instead, I would go out of the bubble and make billions by exploring unexplored...

When you go ou of the bubble, you will find systems easily worth 10-20M scanned data in one system! You can make around 50-100M per evening, if you go in the right direction... But what is more important for you, since you prefer the solitude, you will be alone there even in Open play, not a single living soul out there, unless you intentionally stumble upon someone...

Also, you will be leaving your name on most of the stars and planets you visit, unlike in bubble, where you managed to make 5M in 150+ hours of play?! An maybe, just maybe (!), you will put your name in the Codex, if you are first to report something undiscovered before in particular region of the Galaxy...

And the views, when you are in those distant locations, are just amazing...

Get yourself a decent exploration rig and get out of the bubble... Go visit Sagittarius A, visit Colonia, Beagle point etc... You will come back with billions worth of data...

o7 Commander and fly safe!

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Some explanation on random NPCs in Signal Sources or spawning :

• if you do not carry Cargo, they'll scan you and leave you alone
• if interdicted, do not move the Ship >1000m beyond your drop-in point until the NPC completes its scan, detects no cargo and buzzes off with a remark (otherwise triggers NPC attack "Player attempts to flee")
• if interdicted, do not fire up FSD until the NPC completes its scan (otherwise triggers NPC attack "Player attempts to flee")
• if interdicted or scanned, do not fire on NPC (triggers NPC retaliation)

• IF you carry Cargo and hold precious Exploration Data, expect Interdiction attempts by random NPCs spawning around you after arriving in a System (upto several hundred LY from Sol), so any new contact in some uninhabited System means bad news - that NPC will be after you
• in that case, it's better to either leave Cargo/Loot alone - or HiWake (Hyperjump to another System) ASAP after detecting any NPC spawning around you
• remember if still in a small Ship, most other Vessels mass-lock you upto ~3.5km range, delaying a re-entry into SuperCruise significantly, thus not a recommended way to try to escape (plus, that NPC typically will re-appear in SuperCruise and try to interdict again)

If those basic rules are observed, it'll save early Explorers/Scouts from alot of trouble.

 

[Old Duck]

I'm sorry for your loss.

 

[Martin Shepard]

Actually now you mention it, that looks exactly like what happened. I just remember disengaging supercruise, seeing a couple of items to loot then out of nowhere I'm dead in a few seconds from some NPC named Herron...or something. Yes, I had a basic ship still, didn't really lose much and I'm in "safe space"

I can give you a nice route close to the bubble with lots of interesting places to visit. I discovered a few systems on this route where nobody was, so there is a chance that you can find something for the first time. After finishing this route I almost had enough money for the Anaconda.

 

[CMDR Deano The Imperial]

So I'm trying to find the words to type right now, I'm a bit beside myself as to what just happened.
I generally play in solo mode, to scared to venture out into PVP and I find I enjoy myself without the pressure. I investigate one low risk degraded emissions and I get turned minced within seconds by a ship that turned up out of nowhere....I have NO idea what the heck happened there...
What's really got me bummed though is I had a lot of data on planets and systems on that ship, as a beginner, obviously not worth that much, maybe five million if I sold it all but to me it's the fact that I worked long and hard on it...gone.

I have a question though, can I backtrack and rescan all of those planets or is it a one shot type thing?

Sorry this has happened to you.

Thank your lucky stars that you wasn't returning from a long trip. 5,000,000 in carto data is a mere drop in the ocean at this stage in the game.

As happened to me one time out in the black for a couple of months in an AspX just scanning and discovering everything I could. I did a stupid mistake of picking up an escape pod near the beginning of the trip and forgot I had it. Upon returning to the bubble months later, I was pulled by an NPC Conda and within' seconds I was handed my rear end to me. Months of work and Millions to Billions in carto data just gone in an instant. I think I needed a new monitor after that one.

 

[Vetinari]

OP yes as mentioned just go over the route using Visited / Unvisited, if you turn off unvisited and 'Filter Route' as well you should get the same systems as before without having to manually plot each one.

Do your own thing as you have been, its the best way to play the game for sure. 5m is a nice outfitted ship but its the time and effort that is the loss....but in the grand scheme of things and playing the game its soon recoverable

Just be careful in the USS, personally never been attacked in a 0 threat, but there are other RNG attackers that may be following.

Careful with Escape Pods as mentioned, I forget I have them

And its not a bad rule sometimes to always sell the data before investigating something new, coz many many things in this game are a trap for the unaware and will happily kill you for the slightest mistake.

gl have fun, hope to see your name tagged on something somewhere, take a Surface Scanner and you can tag within 400LY of Sol easily....and its worth a lot more

 

[Frankymole]

Sorry you lost the data. You can make the money back pretty quickly if you do a Road To Riches route. But it's more fun making your own way even if the credits are fewer.

 

[Ozric]

I'll do that visited stars method though...I'm finicky like that.

I flew 7,500Ly out to the Crab Nebula to catalogue the Asteroid Base there. Once I was there I spent too long, too close to the docking entrance setting up screenshots in the external camera. The station security were a tad overzealous if you ask me and they destroyed my ship, and as I was in the camera suite I had no idea what had just happened. I just respawned back where I had started 3 days before (it was a while ago)
But I, like you, couldn't bear the thought of having visited systems marked on the filter but not having the data for them. So with a combination of the filter in game (using the route plotter applying visited stars to the route), and looking in my journal files to see which systems I'd visited (c:\Users\username\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\EliteDangerous) I retraced the exact route, scanned them all, docked and finished documenting the station, sold the data! And left some fish in the heating systems to wind them up, then flew back to the bubble.

 

[Martin Shepard]

I think we all had those stories where we lost our data or almost lost our data. Fortunately I never blew up losing my data, but once I almost did. I landed on a planet taking screenshots and so on. This planet was quite close to its parent gas giant. As I left the planet flying in supercruise I forgot how close it was and turned left too quickly. I only saw a massive ring popping in front of me and in the same second the emergency stop kicked me out of supercruise and I heard "hull integrity compromised". Fortunately I had 99% hull left but it really could have been worse.

In short: I think we all grow with those situations. Ever since then I firstly fly straight for about 3 or 4 minutes to be safe there's is no planet around. And even then if I turn, I do it very slowly while observing the radar.

 

[CMDR Bausell]

Sure, done it myself once for 5kly, just set the route plotter to "visited stars" and plot to the first star where the data went missing. Oh yes, and never enter a USS unless it says "zero threat", I have never been attacked at one of those!

I’ve been attacked at those. It was at the end of my first weeks-long jaunt outside the bubble, had what turned out to be a few hundred million credits’ worth of exploration data in tow (my biggest windfall to date as I hadn’t figured out mining yet). I was maybe a dozen jumps from the bubble and saw a threat zero decoded emissions site, went to check it out.

Got jumped by a Fer-de-Lance and instantly mass-locked. Unlike most explorers I’d gone out in my DBX equipped with Reinforced armor (unengineered) and two burst lasers, the latter of which quickly proved useless. I had lost shields and over a third of my armor before low-waking out of there, ended up getting chased to the next system by the SOB and nearly interdicted when the interdiction abruptly stopped; I think he rammed into the star.

In any case, I’ve never gone out unarmed and underarmored again. It was kinda terrifying to come that close to losing several weeks’ worth of work. Both my DBX and my Anaconda now sport reactive armor (grade 5 lightweight) and the best armaments I could manage (lightweighted size 3 gimballed multicannon with incendiary rounds and two lightweighted Imperial Hammers with super-penetrator on the DBX, actually a fair hand in low intensity combat zones with it). Still gets just over 60 light years of jump range.

I’m currently looking into a very similar build using mirrored armor (grade 5 lightweight) which, paired with the FSD from the recent CG, should get just over 70 light years per jump. Open to any suggestions on what kind of shielding to pair with mirrored armor though.