Have Geological Codex rewards been changed lately?

[ChipStar65]

I recently crossed into the Outer Orion Spur for the first time and have so far logged nine Geological Codex entries for this region. However, I do not see any additional credits (usually 50k per discovery) under Transactions for these discoveries. Did the Codex get nerf-hammered with mining? New bug? All my previous discoveries in the Inner Orion Spur and Elysian Shores regions, including some very recently but before entering the Outer Orion Spur, were properly credited.

 

[varonica]

I made a new discovery (for me) recently in the Inner Orion Spur and got credited with 50k so unless it's something specifically to do with the Outer Orion Spur that seems strange.

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Hmmm....

Keep in mind that only the 1st Codex-paying activity in a System actually yields Credits and a Codex Voucher.
Any 2nd scan of another thing should correctly list up and give you Codex entries - but no Credits anymore.

So if the 1st thing that you scanned within a single System was a 2.500Cr Codex re-scan of something you already scanned elsewhere in the Sector (i.e. you seek a very specific type of Geyser and your 1st one wasn't what you looked for), finding what you seek - even if it's a Codex 1st Discovery - will not yield another Codex voucher at all.

I always assumed this was some type of bug or oversight.
I also don't know if that's per-Session or indeed fixed per-System, never tried i.e. re-logging before making additional Codex scans within the same System in order to get a 2nd (or even a 3rd) Codex Voucher paid.

PS.
All my recent Codex Scans were in the Arcadian Stream. Didn't have any 50k Voucher potential for me in that Sector anymore, as I already scanned almost everything known.
Buy the 2.500Cr Vouchers for a single re-scan per System always came in correctly, no issues.

 

[varonica]

Hmmm....

Keep in mind that only the 1st Codex-paying activity in a System actually yields Credits and a Codex Voucher.
Any 2nd scan of another thing should correctly list up and give you Codex entries - but no Credits anymore.

So if the 1st thing that you scanned within a single System was a 2.500Cr Codex re-scan of something you already scanned elsewhere in the Sector (i.e. you seek a very specific type of Geyser and your 1st one wasn't what you looked for), finding what you seek - even if it's a Codex 1st Discovery - will not yield another Codex voucher at all.

I always assumed this was some type of bug or oversight.
I also don't know if that's per-Session or indeed fixed per-System, never tried i.e. re-logging before making additional Codex scans within the same System in order to get a 2nd (or even a 3rd) Codex Voucher paid.

PS.
All my recent Codex Scans were in the Arcadian Stream. Didn't have any 50k Voucher potential for me in that Sector anymore, as I already scanned almost everything known.
Buy the 2.500Cr Vouchers for a single re-scan per System always came in correctly, no issues.

A first discovery in a region should give 50,000. After that the same type of feature will give 2,500 once in each seperate system you scan it. I know I did get a couple of galaxy firsts, I'm not sure if they pay any extra, it was a while back and I can't remember now, I wonder if they will change things with Odyssey. Maybe we will get discovery, scan and sample codex rewards!

 

[Deleted member 38366]

A first discovery in a region should give 50,000. After that the same type of feature will give 2,500 once in each seperate system you scan it. I know I did get a couple of galaxy firsts, I'm not sure if they pay any extra, it was a while back and I can't remember now, I wonder if they will change things with Odyssey. Maybe we will get discovery, scan and sample codex rewards!

They do... but for all I can tell >only< if that is the first thing you scanned in the System. If the Codex reward System is triggered once, you'll never get a 2nd Codex Voucher (Credits), even if you make multiple Scans afterwards within that System that should yield some.

I repeatedly observed that making Codex discoveries and 1st Discoveries in various Sectors, so it catched my eye. Didn't care about the few Credits, I just found that unusual.
(i.e. went for specific Geologicals and what I wanted was i.e. 5th Geo Site - no 50k Voucher to be seen ,just the Codex Message, as I had already 4 Codex scans done at this point)

You can try it with re-scanning anything if you're in a Galactic Sector that still permits getting 2.500Cr vouchers. One you'll get in a System but never two or more.

Unfortunately I can't test any of this (my experience with that is at least half a year old) in my current Galactic Sector.

I do hope making i.e. a rare Codex 1st Discovery yields more in the future than those meaningless 50.000Cr.
Making an alpha rare 1st Discovery in a Sector should yield a hell lot more than that indeed, so let's see if that gets re-balanced.

 

[Vetinari]

Discovering types of stars / planets just gets you a Codex entry.

POI - Geo etc are what pay out and yes youre right, 50K for 1st time, 2,500 per system afterwards per Sector.

I have had issues in the past where it just completely missed out the 50K and the 2.5K and at other times added them on. I just put it down to a bug and never bothered, its peanuts in the credits game as long as the Codex updated I was happy.

Your description sounds like the same / similar bug, but I never looked into it or whether it was Sector specific or anything.....lots of strange things happen in the black, NS listed as M class even after visiting and scanning and then NS jumping from it (even appears in the auto -route as booster but calls it M class, the game knows its NS the description doesnt), ISP appearing and disappearing....space madness or something else

 

[varonica]

I do hope making i.e. a rare Codex 1st Discovery yields more in the future than those meaningless 50.000Cr.
Making an alpha rare 1st Discovery in a Sector should yield a hell lot more than that indeed, so let's see if that gets re-balanced.

Many years ago I cashed in some codex rewards, it was such a small amount I was discouraged, since then I have made a point of never cashing them in, I think there's maybe a couple of million there now, it just doesn't feel worth it when I can make just as much with one WW or ELW.

 

[Phongsalt]

Not all first discoveries in a new sector pay out the 50K bonus, so it's possible the new discoveries you've made fit into this class.I don't recall exactly which ones, probably the most common, like M class stars, but they are noted somewhere on the forum. When it comes to POI's, any consecutive discoveries of the same type will not register, even in different systems, so you have to mix them up in order to cash in.

 

[ChipStar65]

Thanks for the replies. I'm very familiar with the expected rewards for Codex discoveries, having explored extensively in both Elysian Shore and the Inner Orion Spur. On my return to the bubble after 24 weeks in the black I had a little over 1M in Transactions for Codex stuff, both the initial Confirmed items - 50kcr, and the follow-ups for those items in other systems - 2500cr. That's why getting nothing, nada, zilch for discoveries in a new region -- Outer Orion Spur -- led to this thread, I thought I had missed some FDev note that they were removing even the paltry Codex rewards. I have a ticket in with Tech Support and reported the problem in the Issue Tracker. It is doubly odd that not long before crossing into Outer Orion Spur I collected a handful of new Codex entries -- one Geo and two Bio -- that did earn me some credits, so I have a small balance in Transactions, but it did not change after those made in the new region.

I agree that the Codex discovery rewards are barely worth mentioning but they do offer at least some incentive beyond stroking a Commander's completionist mania. I don't see much reason to go planteside at all if they were to be removed, as I'm close to topped off on all planetary-sourced materials. There is some "Ahah!" boost when finding them, but I'd likely not bother if the Codex discovery credit vouchers were eliminated.

 

[ChipStar65]

I've been holding off scanning a Methane Magma planet while waiting for Tech Support to reply, but decided it wasn't worth the wait. This time, for the Methane Ice Geyser discovery, a new one in this region, I did get the 50k credit voucher. Go figure. Well, it seems to be spotty at best in this region (I have reported other anomalies aa well) but it's time to move on.. Again, thanks for the feedback, it was all helpful.

Definitely spotty -- on the same planet, I just now scanned a Methane Ice Fumarole, a new entry for this region, and no reward given. So don't count on 'em, Commanders (as if anyone does lol).

 

[Vetinari]

reported the problem in the Issue Tracker.

Pics or it ididnt happen!

Seriously though, got a link? Ill upvote it.

 

[ChipStar65]

Pics or it ididnt happen!

Seriously though, got a link? Ill upvote it.

I dumped about 15 screenshots on my Tech Support ticket, but hadn't made them when I made the Issue Tracker post at https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21167

Not sure it can be upvoted until it's been validated by other Cmdrs, though, which because it's a ghosty kinda bug may never happen.

Off topic, sort of, is that making the screenies led me to identify another Outer Orion Spur anomaly: There are two planets shown on the GalMap with the "Visited Stars" filter set to only Visited Stars, that not only have I never visited, they are so far off I could not have possibly visited them without a ship that can jump 700+ LY. One of these is the planet cited in a Codex entry for a discovery I have not yet made (a life form) in this region. Curiouser and curiouser.

 

[Vetinari]

EDSM seemed to think I was someone else the other day in a completely different system to where I was....wonder if its a similar issue.

 

[Phongsalt]

i crossed over into Mare Somnia today, my first visit to the sector, and expected to pick up some 50K first bonuses, but the needle hasn't shifted since i got here, despite having found an Ammonia World and a Water World, two categories i know should give them. It's all a little disheartening, so i shall add my voice to the issue tracker.
Update:Well,i tried. It doesn't seem to recognise my username/email or password, but the problem definitely exists.Will persevere.