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[Patrick_68000]

Rudy Giuliani potentially exposed hundreds to Covid-19, doctor says - CNN Video

Responding to President Donald Trump's tweet that Rudy Giuliani has tested positive for coronavirus, Dr. Megan Ranney says that Giuliani could have potentially exposed "hundreds and hundreds" of people to the virus during a recent trip to Atlanta. CNN has reached out to Giuliani for comment.

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If it jumps to bats and then back to humans, will it mutate?

We need to inject Pfiser into Rudy.

 

[Patrick_68000]

UK starts virus campaign with a shot watched round the world

LONDON (AP) — A nurse rolled up 90-year-old Margaret Keenan’s sleeve and administered a shot watched round the world -– the first jab in the U.K.’s COVID-19 vaccination program kicking off an unprecedented global effort to try to end a pandemic that has killed 1.5 million people.

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Congratulations to the UK.

Yes our most enthusiastic gratitude.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Covid-19 vaccine: First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK - BBC News

Indeed I find her very enthusiastic.

 

[Patrick_68000]

For the President of the Constitutional Council in France, Laurent Fabius, "The climate change is much more serious" than the Covid-19.

"The climate change is, in a way, much more serious than the Covid, including in terms of health".

"The paradox is that we are not making the same effort to fight climate change that we are making to fight against Covid."

 

[Factabulous]

"The paradox is that we are not making the same effort to fight climate change that we are making to fight against Covid."

It's not really a paradox though - is it?

Climate change actions are difficult because a significant number of people will always point at other countries and say "There's no point in us doing anything because China/India/USA etc aren't - so let's not try"

Which is patently untrue with Covid - countries have proved you can mostly beat Covid without needing China/India/USA to do anything.

One thing Covid has taught us is that even if countries set a good example others will ignore it and have bad outcomes. The lack of a global consensus around covid really just reinforces why agreements like the Paris climate accord are important in driving change. Imagine if the world had come together and agreed to try and eradicate covid early on, instead of just accommodating it...

 

[Patrick_68000]

It's not really a paradox though - is it?

Climate change actions are difficult because a significant number of people will always point at other countries and say "There's no point in us doing anything because China/India/USA etc aren't - so let's not try"

Which is patently untrue with Covid - countries have proved you can mostly beat Covid without needing China/India/USA to do anything.

One thing Covid has taught us is that even if countries set a good example others will ignore it and have bad outcomes. The lack of a global consensus around covid really just reinforces why agreements like the Paris climate accord are important in driving change. Imagine if the world had come together and agreed to try and eradicate covid early on, instead of just accommodating it...

Excellent analysis that you are doing.

This is exactly what the President of the Constitutional Council said.

"The tools exist. It suffices to fully apply the Paris agreements".

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Excellent analysis that you are doing.

This is exactly what the President of the Constitutional Council said.

"The tools exist. It suffices to fully apply the Paris agreements".

Yes.
A community of nations, like the one here on this forum. You must be very proud of the name of that accord, it is justified.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Yes.
A community of nations, like the one here on this forum. You must be very proud of the name of that accord, it is justified.

Yes, we would be even more proud if this agreement were respected by all the countries.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Government seems to be a super-spreader function:

Former Alabama state senator dies of Covid, warns in his last words, 'We messed up'

"We let our guards down. Please tell everybody to be careful. This is real, and if you get diagnosed, get help immediately," former Sen. Larry Dixon said.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Accurate statistics are important:

Police raid home of Fla. data scientist, guns drawn

Law enforcement authorities in Tallahassee, Fla., on Monday raided the home of a data scientist who had been fired by Gov. Ron DeSantis after refusing to manipulate numbers.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Government seems to be a super-spreader function:

Former Alabama state senator dies of Covid, warns in his last words, 'We messed up'

"We let our guards down. Please tell everybody to be careful. This is real, and if you get diagnosed, get help immediately," former Sen. Larry Dixon said.

news.yahoo.com

Atty. Jenna Ellis has it now too, and was in close proximity to her team mate Guliani during his unfortunate televised accident in court. This raises the question of catching it from flatulence.

Lifting the lid on coronavirus flatulence

The highly infectious virus is spread via aerosols (droplets of saliva or nasal discharge spread by coughing or sneezing by the infected person with the mouth uncovered). New speculation reveals that it could spread via fecal matter and even via farts or flatulence. Researchers believe that...

www.news-medical.net

(The answer seems to be a qualified... No?)
On the bright side, that's the first 2 cases with positive results!

 

[metatheurgist]

Accurate statistics are important:

Police raid home of Fla. data scientist, guns drawn

Law enforcement authorities in Tallahassee, Fla., on Monday raided the home of a data scientist who had been fired by Gov. Ron DeSantis after refusing to manipulate numbers.

news.yahoo.com

Incredible. First they deny the numbers, now they suppress them. What country does she live in again?

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

There are some horrible reports of a new mystery disease in Andhra Pradesh, suggesting something neurological. Convulsions, vomiting and one death, about 500 affected at once. Looks like poisoning rather than infection...

Edit:

Lead, Nickel Found In Blood Of People With Mystery Illness In Andhra

Traces of lead and nickel are present in the blood of the people who contracted the mystery illness in Andhra Pradesh's Eluru, doctors from the All-India Institute of Medical Sciences have found. The number of people reporting symptoms went up to 556 on Tuesday, 458 people were discharged and...

www.ndtv.com

Guessing it's lead chromate in the tumeric.

Incredible. First they deny the numbers, now they suppress them. What country does she live in again?

Numeracy is a big problem there. But it's safe to say that 100% of them think about 50% of them are crazy.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Wikipedia just posted this:

Eluru outbreak - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So far it doesn't appear to be the thing we all dreaded: a new coronavirus mutation that was more contagious, afflicted children, or caused encephalitis like in Contagion.

I checked with Indian nurses who can read the source news in native script. A wide battery of viral causes has been screened for, with no result. Looked at the actual reports online.

The increased incidence in children is compatible with the idea of neurotoxic poisoning, as smaller bodies respond to lower doses. But the event looks like single large dose lead poisoning to me, distributed across the region. It's a real riddle, how that happened, as poisonous curry powder would have a multiple dose pattern with insidious onset, not this kind of thing.

 

[Factabulous]

Russian Vaccine should not be mixed with alcohol. Somewhat unfortunate for the festive period.

Don't mix Sputnik vaccine with alcohol, says Russian official. Some recoil

A health official's warning that anyone getting vaccinated against COVID-19 with Russia's Sputnik V vaccine should give up alcohol for almost two months has caused a backlash among some Russians who call the request unreasonable.

www.reuters.com

 

[sewerratuk]

Russian Vaccine should not be mixed with alcohol. Somewhat unfortunate for the festive period.

Don't mix Sputnik vaccine with alcohol, says Russian official. Some recoil

A health official's warning that anyone getting vaccinated against COVID-19 with Russia's Sputnik V vaccine should give up alcohol for almost two months has caused a backlash among some Russians who call the request unreasonable.

www.reuters.com

Not a problem for me, I prefer tonic in my gin anyway

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Incredible. First they deny the numbers, now they suppress them. What country does she live in again?

Florida. It's a separate reality.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

3124 dead yesterday, in USA.
Protesting vs masks and vaccines there is approaching a fever pitch too. Florida megachurch politically connected preacher thinks vaccinating is the Mark of the Beast. How long till we read he's in ICU?

Expected toll should hit 300,000 dead before the end of the week. Then the Thanksgiving effect begins. The denialists will learn the same amount as they did at the beginning: exactly zero.

Reality slowly closes in on them. Rugged individualism, bootstraps, paranoid conspiratorial thinking and freedom to endanger the population have not worked out so well.

Our MMR shots are delivered yesterday. Picking them up in a cooler today from work. 8 cases reported yesterday, lowest in a while here. Once vaccinated with these, our personal risk should be relatively negligible. The contrast is black and white.

 

[metatheurgist]

I expect it to hit 4000. They're running at a roughly 2% mortality rate. The infection rate has been 200K for a while now. Numbers don't lie. Throw in the extra that will die because their ICUs are flooded and that their DRs and RNs will probably just call it a day and it'll probably get to 6K. Nothing to worry about, just a mild flu.

 

[Patrick_68000]

3124 dead yesterday, in USA.
Protesting vs masks and vaccines there is approaching a fever pitch too. Florida megachurch politically connected preacher thinks vaccinating is the Mark of the Beast. How long till we read he's in ICU?

Expected toll should hit 300,000 dead before the end of the week. Then the Thanksgiving effect begins. The denialists will learn the same amount as they did at the beginning: exactly zero.

I read that experts predict 150,000 more deaths by the end of February.

A few weeks ago, the Trump administration said the United States could have 500,000 dead in the spring of 2021.

For the moment they are in the numbers.