Europe: The Great Forgotten. DLC?

There's a "leak" Markun mentioned from 4Chan about desert DLC - sometimes surprising how correct they can be with certain news.
So it could be different - Arctic wasn't a continent either, so not all DLC have been continent.

IMO that leak is rubbish. The only proof anyone has that it's legit is the fact that the same user predicted the Australia Pack, which is something almost everyone was predicting anyway. Even if the next DLC does turn out to be a Desert Pack I'm going to call it a wild coincidence.
 
Barbary Sheep
They seem to only live in Africa 😉


Forgotten Five: Wild horse, kulan, saiga antelope, Tauros cattle, Persian leopard
Which Wild Horse? Tarpans are extinct☠

Wolf (already in-game)
It isn't in the Game. They seem to work on changing the Wolf to the Timberwolf. At least in the German Version it's renamed to Timberwolf everywhere except in the Animal Market. I really hope this means we'll get the European Wolf too. It can't be that hard to create one
 
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They seem to only live in Africa 😉
Jumping in to comment that you're right but technically they also live in eastern Spain. However, the Spanish populations are not native but introduced many decades ago.

Either way, Aramar is right about Madrid zoo, some of the European species like the Iberian lynx and specially the Brown bear are highlights in the zoo. In fact, I'm not sure if it was forgotten or if they're not there anymore (I haven't visited the zoo in years), but the Iberian ibex enclosure is also quite iconic and is pretty much the first one you see when you enter the zoo.
 
IMO that leak is rubbish. The only proof anyone has that it's legit is the fact that the same user predicted the Australia Pack, which is something almost everyone was predicting anyway. Even if the next DLC does turn out to be a Desert Pack I'm going to call it a wild coincidence.
I only got this PZ leak from the post of Markiz, "Australia and aquatic pack were predicted correctly". Was this already debunked because you say only Australia?
Never seen that rumour myself, so can't judge it myself - so going with Markiz's word on this one.

For JWE 1 user got a lot of stuff correctly predicted. i actually seen that leak picture on discord. But they've also been wrong on stuff as well.



We'll see what happens, it's fun to speculate like this. Great to see there's a lot of love for European animals :D
 
It’s not an opinion it’s a fact. Every zoo I have visited treated local species as a somewhat curiosity and they were never highlights. I have visited more than 120 zoo’s in my life so I think I’m entitled to have my own opinion. European species are never placed in the main alleys or worse they are mixed other species for even more confusion for the guests. There are very few zoo’s in Europe that make special adjustments for local species - exotics are just more popular for the visitors and that is also a fact.

I have never said northern hemisphere species are not attractive for me because I can enjoy every species and many of them have a very special place in my heart but it’s not about that. It’s about sales of the potential DLC.

What I said was that I don’t think that other people would find that kind of DLC worth buying and it still doesn’t mean I wouldn’t buy it.
If I could decide we would have tons of more species in the game and not so many exclusions.
And also it is great you have different opinion and I respect that. That is the beauty of it all.

I am astounded, that's definately a world record! I am really curious what the names of the 120+ zoos you have visited are?
 
It isn't in the Game. They seem to work on changing the Wolf to the Timberwolf. At least in the German Version it's renamed to Timberwolf everywhere except in the Animal Market. I really hope this means we'll get the European Wolf too. It can't be that hard to create one

It is in the game. Look past the superficial common name they've used. The wolf in-game is Canis lupus, and it covers every single wolf subspecies. The campaign mentions you often bring up don't mean anything - it's just a generic grey wolf, not anything else. If someone wants to use it as the Eurasian wolf, they can, because ultimately that is what it is, just as it is the Northwestern wolf, the Indian wolf, the Mackenzie Valley wolf, or whatever other wolf it could possibly be. As long as it is listed as Canis lupus, it is every member of that species.
 
Scarlet Ibis, Alligator Snapping Turtle?
Sounds great. Only a Exhibit Animal would be missing. Maybe a Red Eared Slider or a European pond turtle

It is in the game. Look past the superficial common name they've used. The wolf in-game is Canis lupus, and it covers every single wolf subspecies. The campaign mentions you often bring up don't mean anything - it's just a generic grey wolf, not anything else. If someone wants to use it as the Eurasian wolf, they can, because ultimately that is what it is, just as it is the Northwestern wolf, the Indian wolf, the Mackenzie Valley wolf, or whatever other wolf it could possibly be. As long as it is listed as Canis lupus, it is every member of that species.
Then they shouldn't have changed it. And you're wrong about the Indian Wolf because that Subspecies looks way too different to argue like that
 
Then they shouldn't have changed it. And you're wrong about the Indian Wolf because that Subspecies looks way too different to argue like that

Urufu, I don't want to have an argument with you, but it feels like you're deliberately ignoring the point - the Indian wolf also falls under Canis lupus, so yes, it could also be the Indian wolf regardless of how it looks. In the end, the whole situation is Frontier's stuff-up, but as it is Canis lupus applies to every member of the grey wolf subspecies (and this also includes the Arctic wolf, the dingo, and, as much as I'm sure nobody wants to admit this, the domestic dog - yes, even Pepe the little chihuahua can be covered by Canis lupus if you really want to stretch your imagination).

If you really want this changed, appeal to Frontier. I have in the past - I've long been an advocate for changing the timber wolf to the Eurasian wolf, to give us a proper European species in the game - but I don't see them doing anything about it. Unfortunately those of us who take issue with the way the timber wolf is classified seem to be in the minority.
 
If you really want this changed, appeal to Frontier. I have in the past - I've long been an advocate for changing the timber wolf to the Eurasian wolf, to give us a proper European species in the game - but I don't see them doing anything about it. Unfortunately those of us who take issue with the way the timber wolf is classified seem to be in the minority.
So you're discussing like that but also want the European Wolf. My Idea how they could do it because of the Career-Mode and the Fact that they already renamed it to Timberwolf (don't know why this took them so long) would be that they change everything that doesn't fit the Subspecies yet and then add the European Wolf as a new Animal (hopefully for free). It can't be that hard to do it like that. Would they even need to change the Model at all? If yes the Changes would be most likely very small.
I think I should just make a Thread about it

Edit: I've created a Thread about it.
I hope everyone who wants the European Wolf and that the wrong Information in the Zoopedia about the Timberwolf gets corrected, will like and maybe even comment the Thread. Maybe Frontier will then consider to add the European Wolf
 
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I really admire your great passion for wolves and the interesting subspecies you comment on.

Personally, I think it would be really nice to include a red fox as a European animal that represents canids and that can bring great diversity.

I observe that there are threads in the community where the inclusion of animals is talked about and discussed very little recognizable by those people with general basic knowledge about wildlife, and that not so many people identify.

These species are always welcome and if they are accompanied by iconic animals it is a great way to include them.

In the case of Europe, it is the great opportunity to include iconic animals such as the lynx, the red deer, the ibex and the fox to accompany a less popular species of animal that surprises us all.

It is something that I love! Taking advantage of the interest of emblematic species, to give visibility to little-known species, and that Planet Zoo users know their importance and can empathize with them through the game, is fantastic!
 
So you're discussing like that but also want the European Wolf. My Idea how they could do it because of the Career-Mode and the Fact that they already renamed it to Timberwolf (don't know why this took them so long) would be that they change everything that doesn't fit the Subspecies yet and then add the European Wolf as a new Animal (hopefully for free). It can't be that hard to do it like that. Would they even need to change the Model at all? If yes the Changes would be most likely very small.
I think I should just make a Thread about it

Edit: I've created a Thread about it.
I hope everyone who wants the European Wolf and that the wrong Information in the Zoopedia about the Timberwolf gets corrected, will like and maybe even comment the Thread. Maybe Frontier will then consider to add the European Wolf

It was always the timber wolf. They never changed it.Edit: I see on your thread that you mentioned it was changed in the German version. I suspect this was simply to bring it line with the English version.
 
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I am astounded, that's definately a world record! I am really curious what the names of the 120+ zoos you have visited are?

I don’t see why you are being rude.
There are more than 300 zoos, wildlife parks other institutions in Germany, Poland and Czech republic alone and more than 700 in whole Europe. I spent my whole life visiting them. I also don’t understand why anyone with different opinion is constantly bullied at this forum.
I’m entitled to have my own opinion and I don’t see why I should think the same as everyone else. There would be no sense for the very existence of this forum if everybody thinks the same.
So yes, for me as much as I would like it to happen the European dlc would be unprofitable and adding another otter to the animal list would be a waste of space.
That is democracy nobody have to agree with me but everybody should respect it.
 
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@nutrit, trying to be friendly here. I don't think there's been any bully behaviour here? I even think the post you quoted was not ironical but actually curious. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, which should always be respected, particularly if supported by proper information like yours in this topic. It all comes down to personal preference in the end, even in Frontier's case, it would seem.

There's something indisputable, though. The lack of European animals is glaring. But so is the lack of more Australian, South American, etc.
 
Personally, I think it would be really nice to include a red fox as a European animal that represents canids and that can bring great diversity.
I would absolutely love a Red fox to be included in the Game


In the case of Europe, it is the great opportunity to include iconic animals such as the lynx, the red deer, the ibex and the fox to accompany a less popular species of animal that surprises us all.
Now (don't know why only now) I fear a bit that it could be that no Wild Boar gets included. It's one of the European Animals I want the most in the Game. But it's very likely if all DLCs that will come only have 5 Animals (including Exhibit Animal. Can't stand it when People always say there are only 4) that we won't get it. But I would of course still be happy about a Europe Pack. I think at least the Ibex will be very likely to be included
 
If there comes a European pack, i really hope so, there is one animal that is without a doubt in it, the Ibex. If it isn't there choice of animals is even more questionable. I think that it is by far the most represented zoo animal that is truly European, so for me no doubt that the Ibex will make the cut.
 
(Alpine) Ibex would be the one that most agree upon. Even on mountain DLC requests this one pops up.

One of my personal picks would be the European badger.
Out of all the badgers, this one has the most appeal to me and the idea of a burrow (bit wishful thinking on this part) would open more options to other burrowing animals as well.
 
Out of all the badgers, this one has the most appeal to me and the idea of a burrow (bit wishful thinking on this part) would open more options to other burrowing animals as well.
I think they've already confirmed once that there will be no burrowing because the Holes have a specific Minimum Size. Even if they would implement burrowing, the Burrow would be either too big or if they somehow manage to make smaller Holes possible, there would still be the Problem with the Giant Hitboxes. But I assume it would be possible to create a great looking Burrow for small Animals with some Building Pieces
 
I think the borrowing could be solved by an enrichment item. It could be a hill with burrows or something similar, just make it plain so we can decore it accordingly. It is not perfect, but if it would bring us more burrowing animals, I am all for it.
That's a solution i was thinking of myself. If the game doesn't allow it, just add it in permanent setting. Enrichment item is a great option for something like that - maybe not what's great but acceptable.

I think they've already confirmed once that there will be no burrowing because the Holes have a specific Minimum Size.
Frontier or a third party? I know a gamesite (RockPaperShotgun) was mentioned a lot by some users, regarding a lot of stuff. They mentioned burrowing not for PZ, exhibits won't get more detailed, bigger animals species likely to be added instead of smaller species.
Not saying it is wrong but I don't read those stories from such sites.
 
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