Newcomer / Intro Fuel Scoop Question .....

[CMDR Jago Kain]

How'd u guess. Ha!

Yes, but it's the justification to use it that is putting me off: I don't have one, or think I don't. Ha!
I think what might change my mind is its ability to earn good money, credit. At the moment I'm virtually broke with a desperate need for credit. So standby, who knows ........

You DO have an FSS. It's built into every ship. It isn't listed in your modules so you'll never see it in outfitting and never accidentally sell it. It doesn't work like a gun or the various other scanners (wake scanner, kill warrant scanner, etc.) so it isn't listed in your fire groups.

Find out what the default key is to activate it and take Misha's advice. Try it out. It's easy money and, in my opinion, actually quite fun. I find it helps to rotate my ship so all the planets in the centre of the dashboard are lined up, either horizontally or vertically, before using the FSS. Then I just pan along the line finding each body in turn.

 

[Yingnei Gasua]

Oh noob question time. On those systems with a Nav beacon, scanning the nav beacon would give you the same credit with Universal Carthographics as a full system FSS correct?

 

[Para Handy]

Oh noob question time. On those systems with a Nav beacon, scanning the nav beacon would give you the same credit with Universal Carthographics as a full system FSS correct?

no - you don't get anything you can sell, you can however then go and "discover" the bodies (FSS or by flying close enough) and sell that.

 

[Wombat1940]

Sorry. At last heading home. It's been 10 months extended stay. 8 of those not by choice. Mind you there are worse places to be "held" in than Bali. Be out of commission for a few days, settling into a 14 days quarantine period .....

 

[CMDR Jago Kain]

That's great news.

 

[Wombat1940]

Well ....... now in 14 day quarantine hotel after 6 hr flight, Jakata to Melbourne, bus trip airport to hotel, and booked in. Bloody police, army everywhere ! Felt like a bloody criminal ! However. I'm just as careful with them as they are with me: they've had 7 cases of COVID so far, from the people confined for the 14 days ! They think they are the ones at risk from overseas returnees, which is true. But we feel at the same risk from other overseas returnees, AND THEM AS WELL!!! They are the ones with the bad track record not me. I had 8 months in a 3rd world country and kept clean, they were in a 1st world country and were getting 700 new cases a day in Victoria alone, through their initial neglect !!!

 

[CMDR Jago Kain]

I'm pleased to hear you made it back to Oz. I take it there were no difficulties with the route plotting?

 

[Codger]

Good news that you made it back safely.

 

[Wombat1940]

I'm pleased to hear you made it back to Oz. I take it there were no difficulties with the route plotting?

Sorry, just haven't had time to look. Have a comprehensive conversation going with Codger, but again no time to look. Sounds funny doesn't it: being locked way, but I have no time. Ha! But busy unpacking, standing up for myself, telling the government what they are doing wrong, but that will all change. Then I'll have time.

 

[CMDR Jago Kain]

Sorry, just haven't had time to look. Have a comprehensive conversation going with Codger, but again no time to look. Sounds funny doesn't it: being locked way, but I have no time. Ha! But busy unpacking, standing up for myself, telling the government what they are doing wrong, but that will all change. Then I'll have time.

I meant the real-life route of the plane that brought you back. It was a joke, but I get that travel fatigue might have that not obvious.

 

[Ashnak]

... telling the government what they are doing wrong, but that will all change. Then I'll have time.

I would have thought you to be old enough to realize that that won't change

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

I rant at the government on a regular basis. I know it will do me no good but I feel just that little bit better for having vented an expletive ridden tirade and finger cramps from overly excessive hand gestures. My poor television.

 

[Wombat1940]

I would have thought you to be old enough to realize that that won't change

Ha! But it makes you feel good to try .....

 

[Wombat1940]

I meant the real-life route of the plane that brought you back. It was a joke, but I get that travel fatigue might have that not obvious.

Ha! Sorry. I was actually in Jakarta airport at 1.30 am trying to find the departure gate for a 1.55 am departure. It's a huge airport with some gates a km apart. Eventually an announcement in Indonesian which all I understood was my flight number: GA716. Spoke to a group heading somewhere which turned out to be my flight. Buggered when arrived in Melbourne; into a bus; into a quarantine hotel; treated like contaminated dogs; everybody very nervous including the arrivals; why ? We were being taken into a potentially contaminated area !
6 days of 14 day compulsory confinement completed and my PCR testing proved negative. The Gov. wants $3000 for my compulsory stay. You can guess what I feel about paying that .........

 

[Wombat1940]

I rant at the government on a regular basis. I know it will do me no good but I feel just that little bit better for having vented an expletive ridden tirade and finger cramps from overly excessive hand gestures. My poor television.

Love it ! LOVE IT !!!
Here's my vent: I'm in my 6th day of a 14 day hotel quarantine period. Food is delivered to my room door and they are supposed to knock on the door to say it's there. They don't always knock, or I don't hear them knock. Hence I partly open the door to check if the food has arrived. (I'm waiting for my breakfast now). I've just had a call to say I must not open the door until I hear the knock ! I'm sure sometimes I'm asleep, so I miss hearing the knock, but I still can't check to see if the food is there ! I tried ringing somebody who I have met during my stay, about the problem, but they say he (Tom) doesn't exist and they say "I'm just following orders (the rules)".
This post will be copied and sent to the appropriate Gov. office.
So ...... just to quote you: " ...... I know it will do me no good but I feel just that little bit better ....... "

 

[Wombat1940]

How do I switch to an alternative scanner? Thanks.

 

[d8veh]

How do I switch to an alternative scanner? Thanks.
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You need to look at your keybindings to find out what key/button is used to enter the FSS, which keys move the cursor around the screen, what tunes the scanner and which keys zoom in and out, and finally the key to leave FSS mode.

I think it's best to use the mouse. Set enter and leave FSS mode to the press scroll wheel button, zoom in and out to the left and right mouse clicks, and tuning on the dcroll wheel.

Set your discovery scanner in a firegroup, whichever trigger you want. When your arrive in a system,fly away from the star at a slight angle to the orbit lines while operating the discovery scanner. As soon as the star has shrunk down on the radar, go to zero throttle and enter FSS mode (scroll wheel press), then scan all the planets. It's all detailed how to do it in this video. 4:50, 5:50 to 12:40 (keybindings) and 19:15 onwards for actual scanning:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl9KwUSowcw&t=54s

 

[WeComeInPeace]

Maybe this isn't the right thread to tell about it, but:

If you KGBFOAM, you can safely run a small fuel tank in most cases. I typically only have fuel enough for 1.5 times my max. jump range, meaning that if I forget to enable KGBFOAM and end up at a non-scoopable star, then I don't have enough fuel for my next jump. In those cases, and I do forget, I just correct my mistake and enable KGBFOAM again, and then I pick a nearby scoopable star, before I continue my route.

Why on Earth would anyone deliberately use a small fuel tank? Because it lowers the total mass of your spaceship and thereby increase your jump range. On a light weight explorer ship, this can give you a couple of extra light years. It does sound scary, but I've done this for quite a while now, going to Sag A*, the galaxy roof, Colonia, and the outer edge, and I haven't experienced having to call the fuel rats yet.

 

[Alec Turner]

Maybe this isn't the right thread to tell about it, but:

If you KGBFOAM, you can safely run a small fuel tank in most cases. I typically only have fuel enough for 1.5 times my max. jump range, meaning that if I forget to enable KGBFOAM and end up at a non-scoopable star, then I don't have enough fuel for my next jump. In those cases, and I do forget, I just correct my mistake and enable KGBFOAM again, and then I pick a nearby scoopable star, before I continue my route.

Why on Earth would anyone deliberately use a small fuel tank? Because it lowers the total mass of your spaceship and thereby increase your jump range. On a light weight explorer ship, this can give you a couple of extra light years. It does sound scary, but I've done this for quite a while now, going to Sag A*, the galaxy roof, Colonia, and the outer edge, and I haven't experienced having to call the fuel rats yet.

Yup, I have a number of ships that have a half-size fuel tank. I toyed with it for the Krait Mk II I'm travelling to Colonia in. The only thing is that as an explorer I prefer not to filter on star type for the increased variety and sense of adventure that gives me (not knowing if I'm suddenly going to run into several unscoopables in a row is kinda exciting and keeps you on your toes). I kept an eye on this for the first 8kly and decided to stick with the big tank since I've ended up way below half full on numerous occasions. Of course you could also just use the big tank but only half fill it ... except that the route plotter doesn't take that in to account and always plots as if you had a fuel tank so you'd have to plot manually then to exploit the extra weight saving.

 

[WeComeInPeace]

Yup, I have a number of ships that have a half-size fuel tank. I toyed with it for the Krait Mk II I'm travelling to Colonia in. The only thing is that as an explorer I prefer not to filter on star type for the increased variety and sense of adventure that gives me (not knowing if I'm suddenly going to run into several unscoopables in a row is kinda exciting and keeps you on your toes). I kept an eye on this for the first 8kly and decided to stick with the big tank since I've ended up way below half full on numerous occasions. Of course you could also just use the big tank but only half fill it ... except that the route plotter doesn't take that in to account and always plots as if you had a fuel tank so you'd have to plot manually then to exploit the extra weight saving.

The thing is that even when you run really low on fuel, you can still jump remarkably long. You probably already know, but the first 10 ly uses way less fuel than the ones from 70-80 ly. That means, that you just need to be able to reach the closest scoopable star, which normally takes very little fuel, unless you're fooling around out where the galaxy is extended using wooden planks.