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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Mole HD said:
Somebody will always be a has nowt newbie, no matter what game you play ;)
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For sure. I suspect SC will always fall foul of Bird’s point there about 'buy equipment and ships for real money and gain advantages' though. With all that entails for game design. I doubt it’ll ever shed its P2W roots. (Or it’s Buy the Biggest Rock roots, whatever we’re calling it now ;))
 
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[VR] DDM_Reaper20

[VR] DDM_Reaper20
Mole HD said:
...And that in a nutshell is why I'm still a farmer...with an accountant who tends to run for the door when he sees me coming :D
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...and a handshake you could moor a boat to. ;) (Moist von Lipwig would love to meet you, I'm sure... ;D )

McGlashan said:
I still consider ED to be a top tier VR experience, but even Frontier have run into the problem of how to implement it in a hybrid cockpit/FPS game with Odyssey. When they were up front about it they got a lot of grief for announcing Odyssey wouldn't have VR support (at launch, or whatever). Meanwhile Roberts' approach is, as always, to lie, to claim they're currently working on it, or that it's basically a done deal, just need to flip the switch etc, and then simply never deliver it. Which is, judging by his acolytes, somehow better. Just another on a very long list of features they are so certain SC "will" offer, that we're supposed to treat it like it already does.
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I know, I know. Which is why I am seriously amused by Mr. Robbert's grand claims. I really WANT SQ42 to succeed, we need more spaceship games with some serious pew-pew, but hey, it's Robberts. Not gonna happen. He's gonna ride the gravy train until it crashes, then "absolve himself" and go into hiding, only to re-emerge some years later, with the next sure-fire plan to rip off punters...
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
[VR] Golgot said:
For sure. I suspect SC will always fall foul of Bird’s point there about 'buy equipment and ships for real money and gain advantages' though. With all that entails for game design. I doubt it’ll ever shed its P2W roots. (Or it’s Buy the Biggest Rock roots, whatever were calling it now ;))
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Aye, for real. I still look on the cash buying power of the orgs as a poisoned chalice for SC. There are a lot of players like me who tend to spread the in game wealth a bit simply to help new guys out...lending ships and/or giving credits where applicable free of charge or commitment. Last night, I transferred a fairly decent newbie the credits to go buy a fully fitted Prospector in game.. but the orgs...a load of Eve with cockpits megalomaniacs who've never grown out of the childish need for in game dominance rather than gameplay. I swear I'll go and pee in all the swimming pools in their bling barges.
 
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sovapid

sovapid
Agony_Aunt said:
So, you did 3 courier missions, and that is somehow equal to your most memorable moment playing ED for 5+ years?

Let me just clarify this. Courier missions are take mission, collect package, fly to another location, hand in package right?

And the most memorable thing you did in ED was some basic smuggling? Okaaaay.
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I think you are over looking this sentence

My Ship 'The Salamander' a ( Ghoulishly green painted ) Drake Cutlass Black sustained (sustained) rear left main nacelle thruster damage...
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my guess is he ran into one or more players and something interesting happened that was more than just dropping off the boxes.

you know, stuff that happens in multiplayer games. :ROFLMAO:
 

BirdWisdom

BirdWisdom
StuartGT said:
Reddit RemindMe bot comes up with the goods again - posted 1.5 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/bxi8iz
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/bxi8iz/for_what_its_worth/
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Lumberyard Game Engine sounds interesting.

Maybe I should create my own game :)
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
sovapid said:
I think you are over looking this sentence



my guess is he ran into one or more players and something interesting happened that was more than just dropping off the boxes.

you know, stuff that happens in multiplayer games. :ROFLMAO:
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Umm... that sort of thing can still happen in ED as well, so not really overlooking it. So he did an A to B deliver and got attacked and survived... and still the most exciting experience!!!!!

This is why i have a hard time taking some people seriously.

And you know, it is SC, maybe the thruster took damage all on its own when the player went to the on-board toilet during the flight to unload a loaf.
 

sovapid

sovapid
Agony_Aunt said:
Umm... that sort of thing can still happen in ED as well, so not really overlooking it. So he did an A to B deliver and got attacked and survived... and still the most exciting experience!!!!!
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You can't have anywhere near the same experience in ED. Maybe when Odyssey comes out.

The getting out of your ship and going in a building adds another level to the experience.
 

sovapid

sovapid
Agony_Aunt said:
Ooof...

www.yahoo.com

Star Citizen is the $339 million game that still doesn’t have a release date

Star Citizen has $339 million in funding and 10 years of development — but there’s still no release date in sight.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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silly amatuers....

this pack hasnt been 27k in years

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andrewg_oz

andrewg_oz
Hoping I might be able to get some advice...

I barely visit Star Citizen, preferring to spend my time tootling around in Elite, mostly in the black exploring. I'm not familiar at all with all the various store terminology.

Many years ago I bought a Mustang Beta and Origin 315p hoping to do something similar in SC. Obviously, that doesn't look like happening any time soon! I'm thinking that I'd be quite happy 'space trucking' or mining in SC (not a combat person), so I was thinking about changing ships. I originally bought into SC with the Aurora MC AC starter pack, and I think I'd like to leave that alone, unless Ship Upgrading keeps all the game access features.

I assume that when people talk about 'melting' they're talking about the 'Exchange' button in My Hangar to create store credit, which means I could get $40 for the Mustang and $65 for the 315p.

I've seen recommendations for the Titan ($60.50), Nomad ($88) and Cutlass ($110). Would a Ship Update (is that what CCU means?) on the Aurora to, say, a Nomad (for $55), keep all the game access features? Do I need a ROC for mining, and if so, what cheap ship(s) would it fit in?

In short, what are my options to try trading and mining in Star Citizen with the assets I currently have? I am willing to tip a little more cash into CIG, but not too much more.

Thanks for any advice to a SC noob.
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
Agony_Aunt said:
Since SC doesn't have private servers, modes, or a PvP slider, then it doesn't matter so much whether you approach it as adversiarial or cooperative, because for sure there are others playing who are adversarial.
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They sure are...lost around 750k worth of cargo to a pad rammer at an outpost tonight. He didn't even have to ram me, just did the newbie griefer trick of parking his stolen MSR on top of the Cat until it exploded. After I respawned, I went back to find him in the Harbinger...he was stupid enough not to have left the server and decided instead to try and steal the boxes of Laranite that had fallen out of my exploded Caterpillar. I rammed his empty ship at full speed before bug splatting his fleeing body into the planet....

I then spent the rest of the evening making his life a complete misery by parting his buttocks with torpedoes every time I caught sight of him, he wasn't hard to find. It was a case of him being too stupid to leave the server, continuing to steal other folks ships while lulzing about it with his 2 matey boys in the general chat and neither of them as a group being skilled enough to put up a decent fight when somone was shooting at them. The 3 of them left the server when everyone else on there who had been following the chat decided they were flavour of the month and all wanted a piece of them too.

The jail time felt almost worth it for 7 repetitive kills on the toerag and his 2 boyfriends... my lost 750k was donated by a mate and fellow Caterpillar Jockey to ease my time behind bars :)
 
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sovapid

sovapid
andrewg_oz said:
Hoping I might be able to get some advice...

I barely visit Star Citizen, preferring to spend my time tootling around in Elite, mostly in the black exploring. I'm not familiar at all with all the various store terminology.

Many years ago I bought a Mustang Beta and Origin 315p hoping to do something similar in SC. Obviously, that doesn't look like happening any time soon! I'm thinking that I'd be quite happy 'space trucking' or mining in SC (not a combat person), so I was thinking about changing ships. I originally bought into SC with the Aurora MC AC starter pack, and I think I'd like to leave that alone, unless Ship Upgrading keeps all the game access features.

I assume that when people talk about 'melting' they're talking about the 'Exchange' button in My Hangar to create store credit, which means I could get $40 for the Mustang and $65 for the 315p.

I've seen recommendations for the Titan ($60.50), Nomad ($88) and Cutlass ($110). Would a Ship Update (is that what CCU means?) on the Aurora to, say, a Nomad (for $55), keep all the game access features? Do I need a ROC for mining, and if so, what cheap ship(s) would it fit in?

In short, what are my options to try trading and mining in Star Citizen with the assets I currently have? I am willing to tip a little more cash into CIG, but not too much more.

Thanks for any advice to a SC noob.
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Do any of the ship have special insurance?

When you look at them in your hanger, expand the section open, and look in the Also Contains section.

Will some time frame, like in this case 120 months, or 6 months etc. Or it might say Lifetime Insurance.

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sovapid

sovapid
andrewg_oz said:
Hoping I might be able to get some advice...

I barely visit Star Citizen, preferring to spend my time tootling around in Elite, mostly in the black exploring. I'm not familiar at all with all the various store terminology.

Many years ago I bought a Mustang Beta and Origin 315p hoping to do something similar in SC. Obviously, that doesn't look like happening any time soon! I'm thinking that I'd be quite happy 'space trucking' or mining in SC (not a combat person), so I was thinking about changing ships. I originally bought into SC with the Aurora MC AC starter pack, and I think I'd like to leave that alone, unless Ship Upgrading keeps all the game access features.

I assume that when people talk about 'melting' they're talking about the 'Exchange' button in My Hangar to create store credit, which means I could get $40 for the Mustang and $65 for the 315p.

I've seen recommendations for the Titan ($60.50), Nomad ($88) and Cutlass ($110). Would a Ship Update (is that what CCU means?) on the Aurora to, say, a Nomad (for $55), keep all the game access features? Do I need a ROC for mining, and if so, what cheap ship(s) would it fit in?

In short, what are my options to try trading and mining in Star Citizen with the assets I currently have? I am willing to tip a little more cash into CIG, but not too much more.

Thanks for any advice to a SC noob.
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Well, I gotta go to sleep so I'll answer without knowing the insurance on your ships.

And this is some of the worst parts of the "game" because it is so convoluted.

Yes, melting is using the Exchange button in your hanger to create store credit.

CCU is what Ship Upgrades are. Ship Upgrades are done on this page:

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Can't put a link in, because CIG doesnt expose a URL for the page.

If you do a CCU/Upgrade, you keep all the properties of the base ship. This comes in handy if the base ship has special insurance or other special things. You get to keep the special stuff and the ship is swapped out.

If I were you I would melt the Mustang and 315p and get a Cutlass Black. Cutlass should only be $100, but maybe you have some tax I don't. You can carry a ROC mining buggy in the Cutlass.

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You need a ROC for mining certain rocks that are on the surface of moons/planets. It is a good money maker right now. The space ship based miners are the prospector and mole. Prospector is for one person, Mole for a group. Don't spend real money on them. You can rent a Prospector for in game credits to try it out if you really wanted to check it out. You can also buy it in game for credits, but it would take a little while.

Don't buy the ROC for real money either, just earn it in game. It is only like 137k credits. It would not take that long to earn that much. I think, with shooting missions it wouldnt take that long. With non-shooting I'm not 100% sure. In fact I could just send you the credits if you want. They havent done a wipe in around a year. You'll never know when it will get wiped, but it isnt worth the real cash.

A couple page back Agony Aunt posted an infographic on how to get around bugs in SC. It was pretty comprehensive and if you haven't played SC much/at all, it would make a good reference.

Trading in SC is too risky for my tastes usually, although server crashes havent been that bad the last few times I've played. Your biggest risk in trading is a server crash. Lose all your money a few times and I get pretty soured to it.
 
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Mole HD

Mole HD
andrewg_oz said:
Hoping I might be able to get some advice...

I barely visit Star Citizen, preferring to spend my time tootling around in Elite, mostly in the black exploring. I'm not familiar at all with all the various store terminology.

Many years ago I bought a Mustang Beta and Origin 315p hoping to do something similar in SC. Obviously, that doesn't look like happening any time soon! I'm thinking that I'd be quite happy 'space trucking' or mining in SC (not a combat person), so I was thinking about changing ships. I originally bought into SC with the Aurora MC AC starter pack, and I think I'd like to leave that alone, unless Ship Upgrading keeps all the game access features.

I assume that when people talk about 'melting' they're talking about the 'Exchange' button in My Hangar to create store credit, which means I could get $40 for the Mustang and $65 for the 315p.

I've seen recommendations for the Titan ($60.50), Nomad ($88) and Cutlass ($110). Would a Ship Update (is that what CCU means?) on the Aurora to, say, a Nomad (for $55), keep all the game access features? Do I need a ROC for mining, and if so, what cheap ship(s) would it fit in?

In short, what are my options to try trading and mining in Star Citizen with the assets I currently have? I am willing to tip a little more cash into CIG, but not too much more.

Thanks for any advice to a SC noob.
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You can upgrade the ship in your starter package at any time which is usually how folks do it rather than buy a completely new ship. Melting...which is converting your ship or game package to store credit is never a good idea if you only have the one game package with access to Star Citizen....CCU upgrade it instead which doesn't effect the package features.

However, there are better starter packages then the one you have currently, either with lifetime insurance or a better ship...in which case you could use the store credit from a melt to buy one of those...just make sure that it contains the game access and isn't just a standalone ship.

Edit: Ninja'd expertly by Sovapid :)
 
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