Elite : Retribution

Mark your diaries folks. 14th of Jan. 8pm, in-game.

"When Sassia Bianchi's family is killed in an apparently meaningless attack, she is the lone survivor. She must, with the help of Elite Dangerous players, find out who is responsible and bring them to justice."

A live in-game Elite Dangerous story, broadcast live on Twitch and afterwards on Youtube.


More details in my blog here > https://www.drewwagar.com/blog/a-new-start-a-new-elite-dangerous-story/

Write on, Commanders.
 
Ya, Im ready....looking forward to this. Ive been waiting for something like this to happen. I missed out on the first one. I knew it was just a matter of time. Is the story's timeline set in concrete or are we the timeline? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Oh, and ready to apply when possible.
OK , read the blog..........and I just realized it is on my league race night. So...if you miss the live event on twitch, are you at a disadvantage or just a little behind?
 
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I am a new Player from the Epic giveaway and missed every tour so far due to the lack of knowledge - but I rewatched(heared) everything since my journey began

I won't miss this one, thats for sure - I am only not sure which ship to bring to the show. Since Ms. Bianchi starts out in a Sidey is there any advantage (lore/roleplaywise) to progress with her as the story continues and also start in a Sidey and upgrade along her way?

fly safe cmdrs o7
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
First off I think the premise of the whole thing is a good idea, and good luck to you running it. I'm always up for player created events in Elite.

But

Don't you think it's rather disingenuous to say that there's a new interactive NPC? People will be, and already are, expecting to be able to find this "NPC" and interact with her themselves. Saying it's an NPC has the very obvious implication that people think that this is not only a Frontier approved and sponsored event, but that they have also added something new to the game.

Whereas after watching the video it seems more like it's a new player character created and controlled by Drew.
 
Drew, if you ever want to write a novel based in the Space Engineers world, let me know! I'm sure Keen would be thrilled :D
 
I think such terminology is consistent with what Frontier did way back in summer 2016, when they had us jumping through hoops to appease some "Advanced NPCs" who were going to give us the location of a downed thargoid ship in exchange for "a lifetimes supply of narcotics". Those "brothers" the two "Advanced NPC" characters in "The Hunt" were controlled by Zac Antonaci and co. But if anything I'd say Drew's NPC looks more advanced, well the fact we can see them is a starter, as the hunt was before Holome, but the animated face and features looks to me like it's got the same technology as used in the "gemini cricket" animations¿
 
I'ma just wait until the more ganking pvp players make new accounts and charm their way into this group, play the long-con, and then spectacularly ruin it like the Salami event lol. Not that I wish ill or anything but let's be real, the second this got announced it's already spread through all the ganking players, even likely those who quit playing, and is likely to lure them back. It'll be interesting to see how drew combats this, whether he writes it in as part of the story or just does a handwavium and pretends it didn't happen.

Also yeah Ozric brings up some valid points. This seems more like a player character you're pretending is an NPC than an actual Frontier-designed and approved NPC that you can move around or use for yourself. Also looks like there is some Odyssey features there potentially so I suspect you're in some sort of pre-alpha testing group.
 
Hmm... Wonder what the hot topic will be at the next Community Manager's "Ask Me Anything"? Could it be things like "Is drew using Odyssey NPC's for retribution?"
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
I think such terminology is consistent with what Frontier did way back in summer 2016, when they had us jumping through hoops to appease some "Advanced NPCs" who were going to give us the location of a downed thargoid ship in exchange for "a lifetimes supply of narcotics". Those "brothers" the two "Advanced NPC" characters in "The Hunt" were controlled by Zac Antonaci and co. But if anything I'd say Drew's NPC looks more advanced, well the fact we can see them is a starter, as the hunt was before Holome, but the animated face and features looks to me like it's got the same technology as used in the "gemini cricket" animations¿
No it's totally different, not least because Drew is not a Frontier employee. "The Hunt" you refer to was a storyline created by Frontier, promoted by Frontier and run by Frontier. It was similar to many riddles and treasure hunts that they have done. I certainly don't remember any mention of "Advanced NPCs" or "a lifetime's supply of narcotics".

But as has been evidenced here, and elsewhere Drew's use of the term 'new interactive NPC' already has people thinking that it's Frontier run and using new tech. The very fact that you say it's consistent with what Frontier did infers that the use of the term has been done specifically to make people think that.
 
No it's totally different, not least because Drew is not a Frontier employee. "The Hunt" you refer to was a storyline created by Frontier, promoted by Frontier and run by Frontier. It was similar to many riddles and treasure hunts that they have done. I certainly don't remember any mention of "Advanced NPCs" or "a lifetime's supply of narcotics".

But as has been evidenced here, and elsewhere Drew's use of the term 'new interactive NPC' already has people thinking that it's Frontier run and using new tech. The very fact that you say it's consistent with what Frontier did infers that the use of the term has been done specifically to make people think that.

I don't think Drew is being intentionally disengenious, I think he's simply trying to make a polished event for us, as evidenced by the composition of a trailer with its own unique retro synthwave theme tune, and the terminology may have inadvertently transcended from sounding "polished" to sounding "official". At worst his enthusiasm for a high quality event might have inadvertently made it sound more official than we currently believe it really is. But I would like to point out that Drew is off contract from FDev, and doesn't have another Elite book in the pipeline as he did with premonition/Salomé event, and is therefore most likely doing this out of the goodness of his heart to stir up some fun, or at worst he's proving a point to Frontier along the lines of "just because we killed Salomé, doesn't mean I can't make more great stories for you." Either way, while some might get confused by the gemini cricket style animated "advanced NPC", I'm not going to get upset about the wording.

Going back to "The Hunt" - I've fact checked myself and corrected a few points with strikethrough formatting in the following sentences, but there were two three staff acted characters, who were brothers in a gang. This three were the centre of the storyline, with each character's the story was they had stumbled on a downed thargoid ship in the pleiades, and wanted to milk this discovery, demands almost being like a CG(s?) they released their clues when their demands were met. So each gang member had a set of demands, and one of them was for narcotics, that I can confirm, the figure of 600t rings a bell to me, but slightly hazy on it.
From galnet on 31st of 3302 - https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/31-AUG-3302 - I found this little summary:
Solving these clues led pilots to the three members of the Granger Gang: Otto Granger, Mahina Dillon and Logan Khol. When confronted, Granger and his companions claimed to have made a discovery of profound importance, but they refused to reveal the nature or location of this discovery.

Instead, each member of the gang said they would issue a request for a specific commodity, promising to reveal further information if they received what they asked for. Logan Khol's subsequent request for narcotics was enthusiastically received by the galactic community, and when his targets were met, a further clue was released:

These characters were, as far as I can recall, FDev staff playing as "advanced NPC's", and their clues and demands weren't whapped onto galnet or community goals section of mission boards, they were direct/local chat to players in instance with them, and the players then disseminated the messages/clue/demands, and we did our usual thing, making discord channels, spreadsheets, reddit threads etc, and proved ourselves too smart for frontier:
Although the Granger Gang planned to release further clues, they were quickly rendered redundant. Within hours of Khol releasing his information to the public, Commanders Noctrach and Ihazevich discovered the mysterious wreckage.
Yep! They underestimated us again... If I mind this right this happened not long before one of our lot triangulated the location of the guardians site in a trailer by looking at the skybox, and sort of shortcut the 2.3 narative¿
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
I don't think Drew is being intentionally disengenious, I think he's simply trying to make a polished event for us, as evidenced by the composition of a trailer with its own unique retro synthwave theme tune, and the terminology may have inadvertently transcended from sounding "polished" to sounding "official". At worst his enthusiasm for a high quality event might have inadvertently made it sound more official than we currently believe it really is. But I would like to point out that Drew is off contract from FDev, and doesn't have another Elite book in the pipeline as he did with premonition/Salomé event, and is therefore most likely doing this out of the goodness of his heart to stir up some fun, or at worst he's proving a point to Frontier along the lines of "just because we killed Salomé, doesn't mean I can't make more great stories for you." Either way, while some might get confused by the gemini cricket style animated "advanced NPC", I'm not going to get upset about the wording.
As I tried to make clear by the start of my first post, I have nothing at all against the event. I think it's a great idea. There are plenty of story driven events that take place by the community in Elite, and they all have their merits. But I'm afraid I don't believe someone of Drew's intelligence would not know the difference between and NPC and a PC.

These characters were, as far as I can recall, FDev staff playing as "advanced NPC's", and their clues and demands weren't whapped onto galnet or community goals section of mission boards, they were direct/local chat to players in instance with them, and the players then disseminated the messages/clue/demands, and we did our usual thing, making discord channels, spreadsheets, reddit threads etc, and proved ourselves too smart for frontier
Because I worry about derailing the thread more, this will be the last I think we should say on it, but you're just making up words and phrases. "advanced NPCs" is just something you've come up with. It was an FD event that was organised and run over a period of time. It involved lots of different media to communicate the clues including binary in videos, galnet articles and in game events, with actual in game consequences. I really can't see why you're bringing this up in relation to a player created event. If you did want a run down though https://canonn.science/codex/the-hunt/ (I had forgotten about the drugs CG)

We'll see. I'd personally like for Drew to reword the video to make it clear it's him not an NPC, but he doesn't have to. And if it turns out that it can in some way be used to leverage something like, I don't know, how FD should do more things like this officially. Then how convenient.
 
In a dark. dank cavern, a pile of credits cascade to the floor as Harry Potter bestrirs himself and warms up his weapons!

;)
 
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