So I got my Imperial Courier...

Find a nice canyon... ;)
I know some of the members of my main's squadron use the Clipper for piracy too.

My mining Pythons are both G5 everything important and are excellent med pad haulers too, I wasn't berating the ship itself, just expressing the fact that, for me, it isn't a ship I have come to love - but know others feell entirely the opposite. (I have Cutters too, hate the 'Space Cow' handling even when engineered heavily, but as a hauler, first class)
Oh I use the 932ms viper for canyons :D and python for piracy. Not a fan of mining so all my mining ships (used to be pyton and annie) were repurposed.
Cutter is just my fuel mule, to refuel the carrier, not a fan of large ships in general.
 
Can you get the speed above 885m/s on the iCourier? It stops at 885 on Coriolis despite still having a good few core internals to D rate and ligtweight engineer.

I really want a fast courier ship to zip away from player interdictions. Initially I'd planned a Viper, which manages 886m/s with a decent shield. The iCourier manages 885m/s with the same outfitting, but like I say, despite D rating and engineering lightweight internals it doesn't go any higher.

Has anyone done something similar before I go wasting time gathering the mats?
Once the mass goes below 61t there is no extra speed to be squeezed out from it... So 885 is tops.
 

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Can you get the speed above 885m/s on the iCourier? It stops at 885 on Coriolis despite still having a good few core internals to D rate and ligtweight engineer.

I really want a fast courier ship to zip away from player interdictions. Initially I'd planned a Viper, which manages 886m/s with a decent shield. The iCourier manages 885m/s with the same outfitting, but like I say, despite D rating and engineering lightweight internals it doesn't go any higher.

Has anyone done something similar before I go wasting time gathering the mats?

885 is the speed cap for the Courier, with EPTs and G5 dirty/drag. It can't go faster unless gravity is involved :)
Viper flies better at high speed - boosts ftw. (Viper + distro drives = 896 cap, and with drag; 932 cap. Don't build for the 932 though, cos you will skimp on distro, lose boosts and then it doesn't fly so good).
Courier does jump further tho and carries more weight.
 
Can you get the speed above 885m/s on the iCourier? It stops at 885 on Coriolis despite still having a good few core internals to D rate and ligtweight engineer.

I really want a fast courier ship to zip away from player interdictions. Initially I'd planned a Viper, which manages 886m/s with a decent shield. The iCourier manages 885m/s with the same outfitting, but like I say, despite D rating and engineering lightweight internals it doesn't go any higher.

Has anyone done something similar before I go wasting time gathering the mats?
At Coriolis, at the lower part of the page, press the "Profiles" tab:

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The graph shows the maximum speed reachable vs mass. Notice the dotted line. That is the current mass of the ship. For max speed, you need to lower the mass so that the dotted line is left of the mass where the graph has the sharp bend and becomes flat. You can also read the "minimum" mass in the thrusters slot:

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Anything below the minimum mass won't give you extra speed or agility, but one ton (or more) above will decrease it.

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At Coriolis, at the lower part of the page, press the "Profiles" tab:

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The graph shows the maximum speed reachable vs mass. Notice the dotted line. That is the current mass of the ship. For max speed, you need to lower the mass so that the dotted line is left of the mass where the graph has the sharp bend and becomes flat. You can also read the "minimum" mass in the thrusters slot:

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Anything below the minimum mass won't give you extra speed or agility, but one ton (or more) above will decrease it.

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Cheers man, never quite understood all those numbers 😂
 
Cheers man, never quite understood all those numbers 😂
Especially this parameter can tell you a lot about how the ship behaves once it's modded. Also notice this graph (same place):

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That shows pitch, yaw and roll speeds. The handling of the Courier is excellent once it's maxed out like this, but it quickly becomes a "challenge" to keep the total mass below 61t, if you want guns, shield and armor. Therefore you often have to compromise and find the sweet spot with best agility/firepower. E-class shield boosters and lightweight engineering is definitely worth looking at when flying a Courier.

I have mainly been using a Vulture for combat, but recently I've been starting looking at building a very light Eagle. I use frag cannons on the Vulture, and they are like a sawed off shotgun. At a distance they are annoying if you get a pellet in they eye, but at close range they are more than lethal. The Vulture is a great learner, because it's heavily armored and very agile. Once you attach yourself to the back of a "ganker in a Cutter", his only chance is running, and his friends can't hit you without hitting him (or her). An Eagle could do the same, and maybe even better (edit: a Cutter can't outrun a fast Eagle), but you need to stay away from anything being fired at you, which is where the low mass is critical.

Edit: With some ships, like the Courier, also consider other options than dirty drags. The "Drive Distributors" mod will increase the minimum mass by ~9% while "only" losing 34 m/s, which gives better options for engineering your preferred hardpoints.
 
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How long is it going to take me to get a Cutter do you think ? Currently a Squire.
It took me a few days killing pirates in a random system about 40Ly from Achenar with 5 Allied Empire factions to get the Count. Most of the time I didn't even go for Rep +++++ but made about 500Mil. Then the last couple of ranks to Duke I went to see Ngalinn .. delivered some letters while kiling pirates as well. All in all it took me about a week without pushing it.

The Cutter is easily my favorite ship in he game. Not for Combat (I have the FLD for that) but trading (704 capacity with a 6C Bi-weave shield and boosters) and looking forward for interdictions.. then I turn the poor sad pirate to dust. Already at 55% Tycoon using multi-hop trading routes to keep things interesting. This ship is the ultimate safe trader.
 
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It took me a few days killing pirates in a random system about 40Ly from Achenar with 5 Allied Empire factions to get the Count. Most of the time I didn't even go for Rep +++++ but made about 500Mil. Then the last couple of ranks to Duke I went to see Ngalinn .. delivered some letters while kiling pirates as well. All in all it took me about a week without pushing it.

The Cutter is easily my favorite ship in he game. Not for Combat (I have the FLD for that) but trading (704 capacity with a 6C Bi-weave shield and boosters) and looking forward for interdictions.. then I turn the poor sad pirate to dust. Already at 55% Tycoon using multi-hop trading routes to keep things interesting. This ship is the ultimate safe trader.
Yeah man that’s what I want! I don’t feel
Safe in my T9, I’d like to be able to blast pirates if I get interdicted.
 
I never understood the appeal, apart from the price and speed, python beats it on every other aspect.
I was very excited when I first got it years ago, but weird hardpoints and L pad requirement just killed it for me quite fast. I still own it but it's scrapped for parts and sitting as a storage ship.

iCourier though, surprisingly good and fun ship to fly.

I have a Python but the ship has no soul. It just doesn't. It's like the Chevy work van of space. It gets the job done, sure, but it doesn't put a smile on my face. And it's criminally overpriced compared to the Krait Mk II now for what all you get.

The Imperial ships are sexy, stylish, and FUN to fly. I bought a Python because I had to. But I'll be ranking up with the Empire soon because I WANT to.
 
I have a Python but the ship has no soul. It just doesn't. It's like the Chevy work van of space. It gets the job done, sure, but it doesn't put a smile on my face. And it's criminally overpriced compared to the Krait Mk II now for what all you get.

The Imperial ships are sexy, stylish, and FUN to fly. I bought a Python because I had to. But I'll be ranking up with the Empire soon because I WANT to.
Long live the Emperor!
 
How long is it going to take me to get a Cutter do you think ? Currently a Squire.
It'll take forever with that Imperial Courrier. you'd be better off with a Python doing the resue missions from the burning stations. You should manage the Cutter or Corvette in an evening.
 
I have a Python but the ship has no soul. It just doesn't. It's like the Chevy work van of space. It gets the job done, sure, but it doesn't put a smile on my face. And it's criminally overpriced compared to the Krait Mk II now for what all you get.

The Imperial ships are sexy, stylish, and FUN to fly. I bought a Python because I had to. But I'll be ranking up with the Empire soon because I WANT to.
Yeah... Out of all the ships I've flown so far I couldn't WAIT to get out of my Python. Ugly and flies like a brick.. I had to use it at some point of the game but now.. I'd rather skip on a medium pad delivery mission rather than fly the Python again... It sits in storage largely un-engineered and not even A rated. For everything else medium pad I just fly the FDL. It's a huge shame the Clipper can't land on medium pads.. I just take the Cutter If I need a large pad mission or mining.
 
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Yeah... Out of all the ships I've flown so far I couldn't WAIT to get out of my Python. Ugly and flies like a brick.. I had to use it at some point of the game but now.. I'd rather skip on a medium pad mission rather than fly the Python again... It sits in storage largely un-engineered and not even A rated. It's a huge shame the Clipper can't land on medium pads.. I just take the Cutter If I need a large pad mission or mining.

Well I was new at the time and didn't realize the Krait Mk II just blows the Python away in every aspect. The Python has such a legendary status on Reddit and other places I would research ships, I felt it was a sure thing.

Like I said for what I was using it for, it sure got the job done. But I can't say I'll ever actually WANT to fly it again.
 
Can I just put a load of passenger cabins on my T9 and use it for rescue missions?

Yes you can, you may want some Heat Sinks as well though. I have a T7 fitted out for this role, if you just want to rank up then just the passengers, but if you like the whole rescue role thing, then its worth putting some Collectors and a cargo rack in. Might be obvious but its manual landing only in damaged stations.
 
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