Galnet Update 22 JAN 3307 - Councillor Kaine Campaigns for Alliance Votes

No. Powerplay is about supporting a specific person, not a Superpower or specific territory. Thus, in Powerplay you support Mahon and not the Alliance specifically.

Aha, thanks! So Kaine will not act like a clone Aisling, whos supporting Communist, Cooperative and Confederacy factions in the Empire.
 
Aha, thanks! So Kaine will not act like a clone Aisling, whos supporting Communist, Cooperative and Confederacy factions in the Empire.

No. She won't figure in Powerplay at all, not unless FD are pulling a sly one (which would be very welcome, but incredibly unlikely).
 
It would, but IMO at least Powerplay is you supporting the ideals of a leader, rather than the establishment around them.

This is so tricky and would be a great display of what they want with PP (or that they completely forget about that, which I think is the unfortunate and most likely route). I argue that Mahon only gets that much support as a power (not talking about players here, but what makes him a power) because he's the alliance PM.

I don't see how they can make Kaine PM and neither fully replace Mahon as the alliance power portrait nor add Kaine as a second alliance power. I feel that ideally Kaine should've been added as a power at least since the first GalNet article revealing her as a PM candidate. If she just starts from nothing as she gets elected PM it will be very weird - the act of becoming PM itself is already the display of a very successful campaign.

On a parallel, I also feel that the marlinist leader Jenna Fairfax is also coming pretty close to the conditions of rising as a Power.
 
This is so tricky and would be a great display of what they want with PP (or that they completely forget about that, which I think is the unfortunate and most likely route). I argue that Mahon only gets that much support as a power (not talking about players here, but what makes him a power) because he's the alliance PM.

I don't see how they can make Kaine PM and neither fully replace Mahon as the alliance power portrait nor add Kaine as a second alliance power. I feel that ideally Kaine should've been added as a power at least since the first GalNet article revealing her as a PM candidate. If she just starts from nothing as she gets elected PM it will be very weird - the act of becoming PM itself is already the display of a very successful campaign.

On a parallel, I also feel that the marlinist leader Jenna Fairfax is also coming pretty close to the conditions of rising as a Power.

If Powerplay had ever become what it meant to be, you'd have seen lots of powers pop up- sadly I think FD thought that was too much baggage and quietly let that fade :(
 
If Powerplay had ever become what it meant to be, you'd have seen lots of powers pop up- sadly I think FD thought that was too much baggage and quietly let that fade :(

Yup, the greatest example that comes to my mind is the nova imperium arc. Feels like it would've played out 100x better as a PP thing. Reading its plot is like reading about a power rising and collapsing.

Anyway I'm always hopeful Frontier will start giving its forgotten child some attention - even if they've missed its entire childhood by now :D
 
I genuinely believe powerplay will be the next big update after odyssey and its bugs, so looking at 2022
I think the reason they are not doing anything at the moment is due to the story arcs that are running at the moment, they involve all of the big players and I still believe a few of em are getting chopped

Once the new crowd are settled PP will get some love, although @Rubbernuke I'm sorry to say that Archon will probably be one of those that will go...unless he's part of an up n coming story arc
 
I genuinely believe powerplay will be the next big update after odyssey and its bugs, so looking at 2022
I think the reason they are not doing anything at the moment is due to the story arcs that are running at the moment, they involve all of the big players and I still believe a few of em are getting chopped

Lets hope its on FDs radar. Its been next in line only to be passed by about twice now.

Once the new crowd are settled PP will get some love, although @Rubbernuke I'm sorry to say that Archon will probably be one of those that will go...unless he's part of an up n coming story arc

Firstly

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And secondly it would be a mistake, mainly because you need a wide range of characters. The biggest problem Powerplay has is that you have too many Imperial leaders. Its only the independents that are actually interesting (Antal the techno monk cultist, Archon the pirate King, Sirius the corpo lord).
 
And secondly it would be a mistake, mainly because you need a wide range of characters. The biggest problem Powerplay has is that you have too many Imperial leaders. Its only the independents that are actually interesting (Antal the techno monk cultist, Archon the pirate King, Sirius the corpo lord).
ow I agree, and I think its why summit powerplay is happening - remind everyone there are other characters out there, the other arcs will probably lead to deaths

maybe the pirate king will be the antagonist to the summit? would be a pleasant surprise
 
ow I agree, and I think its why summit powerplay is happening - remind everyone there are other characters out there, the other arcs will probably lead to deaths

maybe the pirate king will be the antagonist to the summit? would be a pleasant surprise

My complaint with FD is that they are really, really rubbish at using these characters. All of Powerplays leaders are really well thought out, with both good and bad sides, depending on your point of view. But FD always always go head to head- why? The first set of new CGs were spot on, with non binary outcomes. Now the devs have gone back to type, with annoyingly boring 'this or that', when a CG should be a situation. Why not have Antal host regardless, but the system is invaded, with the next CG being one of establishing order plus hostage recovery en masse?
 
I genuinely believe powerplay will be the next big update after odyssey and its bugs, so looking at 2022
I think the reason they are not doing anything at the moment is due to the story arcs that are running at the moment, they involve all of the big players and I still believe a few of em are getting chopped
My working assumption has been that we're getting these political storylines all happening now because FD is planning to shake up the political landscape, which would seem to necessarily implicate changes to the Powerplay roster. FD tends not to create assets just to discard them, so my guess would be that they are planning to insert Kaine as a new power whether or not the eventual CGs lead to her winning the coming election - she can do that equally well as Alliance PM or opposition leader.
 
And secondly it would be a mistake, mainly because you need a wide range of characters. The biggest problem Powerplay has is that you have too many Imperial leaders. Its only the independents that are actually interesting (Antal the techno monk cultist, Archon the pirate King, Sirius the corpo lord).
Which is arguably an issue with representing that sort of character through Powerplay - the most interesting ones are also the ones with the most niche player appeal. The gap between "wanting to see what they do" and "wanting to help them do it" is a problem ... and if the originally-planned collapse/arise cycle had been in place, I think we'd have ended up with a much beiger set of characters for Powerplay.

Equally, and almost in reverse, the relative power of the various Imperial/Federal powers has more to do with positional tactic advantages as any particular preference for their outlook within their superpower.

Fairfax, Kaine, Tanner ... all potentially interesting characters but very difficult to fit into the Powerplay framework. Even someone like Antal, most of the lore about them - especially the creepier bits of it - comes from the Powerplay information, but the actual Powerplay representation of them is very disconnected. (Equally, if it wasn't for her continuing tenuous Powerplay presence, Torval would probably be filed along with many of the other characters from 3301 storylines as "not particularly relevant today" - she's barely said anything for five years, and doesn't really add anything in terms of Imperial culture that H Duval, ALD or Patreus don't have covered one way or another)




On a completely unrelated note for this bit, I came across this article suggesting sabotage for the Highliner Antares, which was being investigated by former VP Smeaton before his suspicious death.
...and now we find Starship One disappearing due to sabotage, killing his successor as VP. Lots of other articles from around that time reporting suspicious deaths of those investigating either the Antares or SS1.

This is interesting - Smeaton was killed for investigating the 50-year-old loss of the Antares. SS1 disappeared under similar circumstances, and certainly powerful people had a motive for that coverup, but what could Smeaton possibly have found out about the Antares that would be so dangerous to come out now (bearing in mind it can't have been directly connected to the SS1 sabotage, as he died before the Lugh and Onionhead fiascos wrecked Halsey's popularity)? And did that have anything to do with SS1's diversion to Azaleach?

And if Halsey knew what her former VP's investigative hobby was ... was she killed not over Federal politics but to cover up the same Antares incident?

It now makes sense why the investigation into SS1 took so long to complete: two weeks to interview the relevant parties, five years to get those interviews while making it look like you had no interest in SS1 whatsoever and the people being interviewed knew nothing about SS1 whatsoever.
 
Which is arguably an issue with representing that sort of character through Powerplay - the most interesting ones are also the ones with the most niche player appeal. The gap between "wanting to see what they do" and "wanting to help them do it" is a problem ... and if the originally-planned collapse/arise cycle had been in place, I think we'd have ended up with a much beiger set of characters for Powerplay.

Equally, and almost in reverse, the relative power of the various Imperial/Federal powers has more to do with positional tactic advantages as any particular preference for their outlook within their superpower.

Fairfax, Kaine, Tanner ... all potentially interesting characters but very difficult to fit into the Powerplay framework. Even someone like Antal, most of the lore about them - especially the creepier bits of it

Thats the beauty of the Powerplay leaders though- although its abstracted (like the BGS) that creepy stuff seeps in- people forget that Antal sends thousands of political and ideological prisoners for re-education, Grom continuing his surveillance state, Archon sending prisoners of war as marked slaves to their deaths, Ailsing swamping her targets with propaganda and so on.

But I do agree that as it is, people tend to side with 'the goodies' and it would most likely lean towards that if collapse was in- which really makes me want majority independents in the feature with only one Imp, Fed and Alliance figure (or none at all, and leave that for the superpower / BGS / Galnet part).
 
So Kaine is from Tionisla that is interesting. She might have some rather powerful backing.
Tionisla is the historic home of the family that leads the Dark Wheel (The Ryders being from Tionisla is mentioned in 'and here the wheel' ), and the Dark Wheel at one point (in the 1984 elite era) being based in Tionisla (luko mentions this in premonition or reclamation as a point of historical fact if memory servers.)

There may be more to this election than power play tweaks, and i can't wait to see where it leads if anywhere. (I may be overly enthusiastic, but one can hope at least given the Elite 1984 reference, and the choice to use a very important system in lore)

It is so nice to have Galnet back, and for things to be happening.
 
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