Galnet & Twitter: "an unknown vessel needs our help!"

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I had some problems finding it myself. Didn't show up on my nav panel after using the DSS. I tried logging out to the menu and back, still nothing.

But when I started flying around above the moon in supercruise, I spotted an "Unknown" signal source on the surface, that was it.
Got to be affected by that same stupid bug that happens with other planetary POIs - a re-log isn't even necessary iirc, all you have to do is go into orbit/land, go back into SC and voila, markers magically appear. I had this happening with the Coalsack planetary surface facility and barnacle sites also.
 
3) As someone above already suggested, NMLA (and some of the other happenings in Elite at the moment) could be the doing of an (as of yet) unkown force at work within human politics. The "NWO style"/X-Files conspiracy stuff. Maybe Thargoid followers/Thargod/Fargod stuff that seek to cause havoc in human space as a 5th column to prepare mankind for a proper Thargoid invasion
Maybe Guardian and Human AIs are the real forces behind all this - in concert or in rivalry.
 
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As a pro-Imperial, I wouldn't say they've been portrayed as bad in the sense of "On the negative (personal, game-focused) moral compass", but rather bad in the sense of clumsy, naive and oafish.
Arguably I'd say both were part of the "Imperial character" going right back to the original 2015 storyline, and other early lore set up, especially in terms of how they're perceived from the outside.

The Empire doesn't really care what outsiders think of it, so makes no effort to hide its suppression of discontent and threats, or use subtlety when overwhelming force is also capable of doing the job. This generally saves it a fair bit of time and effort, though runs into issues when they come up against someone with a PR team. (Aisling Duval's innovation, of course, is "what if we said we were nice but did it anyway?", which is far too radical for the Senate at the moment)
 

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I'm aware. I just had to express my general bitterness about the Panther fiasco. I really wanted that ship badly, as just a big freighter. How useful it would have been to get cargo on and off carriers.
How would you get it through the mailslot though? I'm not overly familiar with the ship but assume it wouldn't fit even a large pad? Didn't play the previous games (except the OG Elite) so not sure about its dimensions but I always thought it'd be much bigger than say the Conda.
 
Arguably I'd say both were part of the "Imperial character" going right back to the original 2015 storyline, and other early lore set up, especially in terms of how they're perceived from the outside.

The Empire doesn't really care what outsiders think of it, so makes no effort to hide its suppression of discontent and threats, or use subtlety when overwhelming force is also capable of doing the job. This generally saves it a fair bit of time and effort, though runs into issues when they come up against someone with a PR team. (Aisling Duval's innovation, of course, is "what if we said we were nice but did it anyway?", which is far too radical for the Senate at the moment)

If you read Aislings Powerplay UI tab you realize she is more of a catspaw than anything- it could be her sponsors pulling NMLA strings. The clue in the text of the prison logs talks of the terrorists being escorted like senators....now, that could be the ex guard speaking in concepts he understands, or, it could be a clue showing Imperial behaviour in the rescue squad (which means.....are the NMLA working for someone like Aisling who wants reform?)
 
I had some problems finding it myself. Didn't show up on my nav panel after using the DSS. I tried logging out to the menu and back, still nothing.

But when I started flying around above the moon in supercruise, I spotted an "Unknown" signal source on the surface, that was it.
The issue with relogs is that POIs take a few seconds to be recalculated when you restart - so you get that 'nothing found' feeling, but then check a few seconds later and there is stuff there. Same happens with Geo / Bio POI.

As ObiW says, dropping out of SC resolves the POI without a relog. Problem I had last night was that then I got Orange Sidewindered trying to go back into SC. Lovely.
 
2) The entire NMLA is just a cover/black op for a faction within the IISS with an unknown goal. Maybe they seek to overthrow the Duvals in a coup, maybe they have even more ambitious goals
This one - probably Patreus-backed - I think is most likely.

3) As someone above already suggested, NMLA (and some of the other happenings in Elite at the moment) could be the doing of an (as of yet) unkown force at work within human politics.
There's potentially some involvement from Sirius here, too. Sirius benefit from chaos, and people buying their stuff, as the "industrial" part of the military-industrial complex.

So:
- encourage radical Marlinism to bring the Empire into conflict with the Federation
- do a bit of work to "solve" that by giving Marlinism a permanent home
- have a "peace" conference where representatives from all three powers can get together and have massive arguments and diplomatic incidents
- clearly have acted only with the best of intentions, regretfully profit from the resulting war by selling supplies to all sides
 
Having made it out there myself now, I am 98% sure this is a new base design, and let's say 80% sure it is an Odyssey asset. Lots of little details that make me think it was designed with on-foot action in mind, in a way that many of the existing base designs do not.
I suggest you go look at the other Penal Colony (BV-2259 on HIP 16217 AB 1 a) and compare - they looked pretty similar to me. Especially the landing pad.

Though this version seems more spiky - never got my SRV stuck as often.
 
How would you get it through the mailslot though? I'm not overly familiar with the ship but assume it wouldn't fit even a large pad? Didn't play the previous games (except the OG Elite) so not sure about its dimensions but I always thought it'd be much bigger than say the Conda.
The 2014 concept art showed it fitting on a large pad, taking full length (T9 is half) and width of the pad, so the at that time planned version would have fit.
 
Arguably I'd say both were part of the "Imperial character" going right back to the original 2015 storyline, and other early lore set up, especially in terms of how they're perceived from the outside.

The Empire doesn't really care what outsiders think of it, so makes no effort to hide its suppression of discontent and threats, or use subtlety when overwhelming force is also capable of doing the job. This generally saves it a fair bit of time and effort, though runs into issues when they come up against someone with a PR team. (Aisling Duval's innovation, of course, is "what if we said we were nice but did it anyway?", which is far too radical for the Senate at the moment)
I guess I hadn't thought of it that way before, though por que no los dos?

It's a bit like using HTTP vs HTTPS... you may not care that other people could see you going to the latest Hey Duggee's Best Bits video, but it won't hurt to do it via HTTPS.
 
There's potentially some involvement from Sirius here, too. Sirius benefit from chaos, and people buying their stuff, as the "industrial" part of the military-industrial complex.

So:
  • encourage radical Marlinism to bring the Empire into conflict with the Federation
  • do a bit of work to "solve" that by giving Marlinism a permanent home
  • have a "peace" conference where representatives from all three powers can get together and have massive arguments and diplomatic incidents
  • clearly have acted only with the best of intentions, regretfully profit from the resulting war by selling supplies to all sides

well, Utopia also competed to be the host, but lost due to CMDR involvment. I haven't followed the CG, but unless it was "rigged" so Sirius would win (as in some unique reward for Sirius), I don't think Sirius is the main culprint here. Utopia could have won as well and with it gained significant influence in the coming conference.

Before GalNet went dark, there was this entire plot line about humans worshipping the Thargoids as gods and a cult that emerged from it. IIRC it was mostly a Federal thing and Federal intelligence agencies were cracking down hard on them, while at the same time the cultists called for "Freedom of Religion". I'm not sure if this plot had come to a conclusion before GalNet died, if the plot died with GalNet and is now dead&buried, or if the plot is still "active" behind the scenes and somehow linked to recent events with the Coalsack Logs and the NMLA plot. But maybe this entire "Alien infiltration" idea and "#BlameTheThargoids" is just wishful thinking of my "xeno-phob" (ba-dum-tiss) heart
 

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The 2014 concept art showed it fitting on a large pad, taking full length (T9 is half) and width of the pad, so the at that time planned version would have fit.
Nice, so they would actually serve a proper purpose. Shame that Frontier seems to think otherwise.
 
well, Utopia also competed to be the host, but lost due to CMDR involvment. I haven't followed the CG, but unless it was "rigged" so Sirius would win (as in some unique reward for Sirius), I don't think Sirius is the main culprint here. Utopia could have won as well and with it gained significant influence in the coming conference.

Before GalNet went dark, there was this entire plot line about humans worshipping the Thargoids as gods and a cult that emerged from it. IIRC it was mostly a Federal thing and Federal intelligence agencies were cracking down hard on them, while at the same time the cultists called for "Freedom of Religion". I'm not sure if this plot had come to a conclusion before GalNet died, if the plot died with GalNet and is now dead&buried, or if the plot is still "active" behind the scenes and somehow linked to recent events with the Coalsack Logs and the NMLA plot. But maybe this entire "Alien infiltration" idea and "#BlameTheThargoids" is just wishful thinking of my "xeno-phob" (ba-dum-tiss) heart
I feel like Antal was genuinely seeking a galactic peace summit. But he's, frankly, just a nobody compared to LYR, so that's why players swarmed to him in a competitive CG. LYR counter-proposing a summit feels like direct action to maintain control of the superpowers.

As for the cult (The Far God cult), yes, they got wiped out/arrested. TBH though... this "Theta Seven" guy feels like a remnant of that, given this bit (just fetching screenshot now).

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And combined with this

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What I'm confused about though... "Emperor's Dawn" and "League of Reparation" I'm familiar with... but "Silver Oracle" ?
 
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I didn't :) in fact, I was thinking of logging on with my alt account which is in the bubble (main one with FC is in Colonia) but couldn't even be bothered to do that. It's all laid out in the forum and apparently some codex entries are bugged so didn't see the point - while it's nice to see some sort of narrative being added it doesn't really tickle me all that much ... ultimately some copy/paste assets placed somewhere with a few paragraphs of flavour text that I could probably write up myself if I wanted to...

This sounds awfully negative now I admit - it's certainly better than nothing but as someone else posted last night, it does feel like pre-3.3 content being reheated. I guess it's better than nothing at all and I'm glad at least some of the player base are having/had their brief fun with it.

Seconded... It doesn't get me engaged either...

Looked at the screen grab OA linked in his video...
Thought 'yeah, so?'
Moved on...

It's at least a half backed attempt from fdev to provide some content to offset the Odyssey launch delays... But Sheesh! This is thin on content!

Btw, I do it the other way around lol... I keep my main account FC in the bubble and use my alt account FC for exploration and mining in the black. Do you use your Colonia account much?
 
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