No idea if he's banned from the game but he is from the forum.
Last I saw he was trolling the Star Citizens but I suspect he'll have availed himself of the free epic game keys to make a splash when Odyssey comes out.
[GALNET] Warning of Ship Abductions by Fleet Carriers by nasty people
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No idea if he's banned from the game but he is from the forum.
Last I saw he was trolling the Star Citizens but I suspect he'll have availed himself of the free epic game keys to make a splash when Odyssey comes out.
Quite while you're behind is my advice commando.
Also you don't have to know anyone who has cancer or has died from it to get trigged.
I'm an old fart, we don't get triggered. Well, unless you are on my lawn
I'm just not going to make excuses for lameness even if it's in a video game.
p.s I like advice like I like my PVP: solicited only
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Oh, are we talking about Dove Enigma again? Coz it's events like that why I'm completely against interactable things in MMOs such as memorials or things for people for RL reasons/concerns... either it's part of the game, with all the bells and whistles that go with it, or it shouldn't be there.
Articles like these continue to remind me why I'm glad I cut my MMO teeth out in EVE. Novel trick, easily escaped but. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
(Oh, and I've had close family/loved ones die of cancer. The comparison is totally absurd)
Articles like these continue to remind me why I'm glad I cut my MMO teeth out in EVE. Novel trick, easily escaped but. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
(Oh, and I've had close family/loved ones die of cancer. The comparison is totally absurd)
I am not at all removing intent and in no way did I say it was win-win. The FC people (it seems to be one guy that thought it up but was obviously a group effort to pull off) clearly came out ahead in the deal, but it was definitely not a complete loss for the “victims” either. They came out with more personal gain out of this ordeal than the noobs that simply get ganked and all they have to show for it is a rebuy screen. Or the poor sod that comes back after months in the black and loses their months’ worth of exploration data. Would you not say that is a much bigger loss?
Yes, of course these guys were jerks, but it happens in this game all the time. Where is the outrage there? Why so much outrage for this one thing when it wasn’t even that big of a loss for the victims? There are sob stories being posted on this forum all the time about people who lost their ship because they couldn’t afford the rebuy or worse, the guy who lost months and months of data from a gank (someone posted one just the other day). All they get is an “lol git gud”. Where’s the GalNet article to never sell data in open? Or at least a tip screen.
At least what happened here could/may have provided some excellent RP material for some players, much more than the typical random griefing. Anyone not wanting to participate could self-destruct-winder anytime.
People (and articles) are throwing around very serious real-world terms like “slavery” and “child exploitation” and that’s just crazy. Frankly it minimizes the real world suffering of actual victims to even suggest that what happened here is that. Geez, this is pretty much a “first world problems” as it gets.
The writer at Polygon sounds very special.
I feel like tweaking respawn was something that was going to need tweaking with Fleet carriers and people ending up way out in space unexpectedly. I think the respawn menu should have an additional option if you last docked at a fleet carrier: Respawn at last docked station/settlement, or respawn at nearest station or settlement to your last docked station/settlement with access to outfitting, fsd purchases, and fuel scoops available. A bit like how Halo games had a backup if your last checkpoint kept killing you; they'd send you back to an earlier checkpoint than your last one.
I'm not.
Players keep screaming for galnet articles to be about player activity (something I'm against, but that's an aside...). FD's just giving what's been asked for.
Your my mining ship nowwww
You still don't seem to have grasped that it was literally impossible to 'grief' the Dove Enigma expedition in the way that you seem to think. It was an expedition to travel to somewhere and dock there. There is and was literally nothing in the game that could ever have prevented that from happening. Literally nothing - there was no mechanic by which that could have been brought to pass. You're absolutely right that many people were 'outraged' but based on an equally deep misunderstanding of that fact. They were certainly more 'outraged' than the guy whose expedition it was and if there's one thing I do find a bit tragic in this life it's people who get outraged on other people's behalf when they do so more than those concerned. In this case, you're outraged about something that not only did not actually happen, but could not have happened by the mechanics of the game. I might as well tell you I'm going to make your carrier turn into cream cheese for posting in this thread - doesn't matter, it cannot happen.
As for 'internet tough guy crap', I really think you need a lie down because if that's what you consider making a factually accurate post in order to rebuff factually inaccurate hyperbole then yes, I do think your reaction remains overblown. I've got a five year posting history on here that would show you just how much of an 'internet tough guy' stance I adopt lol (clue - not so much actually), if you care that much I'd suggest you read it as I have neither the time nor the inclination to bother my arxe with justifying myself to you.
funnily enough, i see people deriding the stuff around that incident to be the true "internet tough guys" here... trying to enforce some unwritten rules on others through methods which can be summed up pretty reasonably as bullying and intimidation.
When I first came over article on Polygon, I've been dead sure it was some kind of a joke. No idea if they do this, but what was written there could never be serious.
Is this actually some sort of a joke? Narrative of FD? I mean people can't be that dumb, or crazy to attempt things that have been described there... If this is serious, players on "both sides" need some good therapists ASAP.
I'm so lost and confused about this whole affair...
Is this actually some sort of a joke? Narrative of FD? I mean people can't be that dumb, or crazy to attempt things that have been described there... If this is serious, players on "both sides" need some good therapists ASAP.
I'm so lost and confused about this whole affair...
I never once refuted you that the event was allowed to continue. Not once. But you just keep repeating the same thing I've never disputed! How have I not grasped this? Please show me where I said you were wrong on that one point.
In your own words they "trolled" an event for a guy who had terminal cancer. Self explanatory why so many including me thought it was a scummy thing to do. The fact that their failed attempt still made a spectacle of the whole thing which showed disrespect is apparently over your head. You just don't get it.
You and I have a different perspective on this. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong. It's ok that we don't agree.
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Best we leave it there then.
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What I will say about the incident that prompted this particular episode is this. Online games (any online game) hold up a mirror to society in general, meaning that all of humanity, good and bad, will be inevitably reflected in that mirror. Accepting that is the price of entry and it will never change. With regard to offers that seem too good to be true, yes they very often are and although when rules are being broken there's a clear responsibility on the game developer to enforce them; when we're just into douchery though the responsibility has to be shared with the individual in undertaking some form of due diligence and ultimately in simply not accepting the seemingly tempting offer if they aren't able to satisfy themselves that an offer is legit.
Some players won't make the right call in those circumstances - it's inevitable because it's human nature, just as it is human nature for some people to lie cheat, steal, scam and undertake any other pattern of behaviour which some of us may find personally unpleasant. If we want a game that represents a cut-throat galaxy, or frankly even one which can at times just be a bit unpleasant, we need to be realistic about that aspect and critically, not to demonise players whose interests may gravitate to that end of the spectrum because those people are doing exactly what we are - partaking of an entertainment product in their spare time.
It's incredibly dangerous to try to extrapolate assumptions about people's real life motivations and actions from their chosen activity in a computer game and that's not to say that some people don't behave badly in both - some undoubtedly do because as with the scorpion and the frog, it's in their nature. Not all do though and even though I'm a fairly astute guy, I don't pretend to be able to instinctively know the difference based on a few internet postings.
For the record, my default for both roleplaying and real life is almost invariably chaotic good
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Politics IS organized crime.
This is easily the best part about FCs.
Link or it didn't happen
This is the piece I read four days ago. I didn't imagine it would escalate to an actual Galnet warning.
Elite Dangerous players say they’re being scammed, trapped in space, and forced to work
Waylaid and forced into labor 800 light-years from home
www.polygon.com
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EDIT: forgot the link.
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Oh noooooo....you've been cheated too! Behind the curtain there's a football size room filled with Ikea robots crafting and mounting all Ferraris...