Because when a few individual Cmdrs do something, ALL MUST SUFFER
Proposal Discussion Anti Botting Agreement Idea 3.1 Player incentivised, VR compatible in-station "not-a-literal-Captcha"
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Because when a few individual Cmdrs do something, ALL MUST SUFFER
You left off a "Tally ho!" or a "What what!"
You left off a "Tally ho!" or a "What what!"
Well spotted old bean, what what
Why do you think gameplay that isn't repeating the same action with absolutely no effort outside of time spent as suffering? Why do you think that gameplay that requires strategy and variety in actions taken by the player and a reward system that scales to the level of skill needed to accomplish the given task as suffering?
That's very odd.
So am I the only one who know there's a pre-flight checklist you can do in the game? If you switch it on, on the next launch you do, it'll have you operate the basic controls one by one until you clear them alll and then you ship will launch.
You want something CAPHCA-like that you can spring on someone who's been doing repeated actions that will disrupt an automated script? Well there you go.
If you need to polish it a lttle lore-wise, it's easy. You make the launch do a horrible clunk sound and the cockpit voice will go "Launch Error!" followed by Flight Control asking you do a diagnostic check via the pre-flight list. (As they scramble to pin their equipment malfunction on you.)
It's not perfect, as it's the same challenge every time, but if you want something that's already in the game, it's there. Make it so it doesn't happen too often, and the longer you stay at a station, the less risk of it appearing.
You want something CAPHCA-like that you can spring on someone who's been doing repeated actions that will disrupt an automated script? Well there you go.
If you need to polish it a lttle lore-wise, it's easy. You make the launch do a horrible clunk sound and the cockpit voice will go "Launch Error!" followed by Flight Control asking you do a diagnostic check via the pre-flight list. (As they scramble to pin their equipment malfunction on you.)
It's not perfect, as it's the same challenge every time, but if you want something that's already in the game, it's there. Make it so it doesn't happen too often, and the longer you stay at a station, the less risk of it appearing.
even if botting didn't exist at all with 100% certainty. There are many issues that all revolve around the simplistic nature of the way you are rewarded in the game.
income balance.
ranking
reputation
bgs influence
pve vs open arguments
even entire roles.
That all becomes moot or far less of a factor when the gameplay involved in being highly successful in the game revolves around completing tasks that require more from the player than the same level of competency as players who just started playing yesterday and not just having lots of time to rinse and repeat.
The bonus is that it defeats the issue of bots at the same time. Because this whole bot issue (however big or small it is) only exists because of how the game rewards risk-free simple mechanics.
income balance.
ranking
reputation
bgs influence
pve vs open arguments
even entire roles.
That all becomes moot or far less of a factor when the gameplay involved in being highly successful in the game revolves around completing tasks that require more from the player than the same level of competency as players who just started playing yesterday and not just having lots of time to rinse and repeat.
The bonus is that it defeats the issue of bots at the same time. Because this whole bot issue (however big or small it is) only exists because of how the game rewards risk-free simple mechanics.
Well, here you go.
forums.frontier.co.uk
If suspected bots have been reported and you don't see any changes, then you are probably wrong in your suspicions.
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Frontier's Stance on Bots and Cheating
Greetings Commanders, Some of you have expressed concerns over suspicions of bot usage in Elite Dangerous. Frontier is committed to offering the best gaming experience to all of our players and we actively monitor and act on any developments that might unbalance the Elite Dangerous Universe, or...
If suspected bots have been reported and you don't see any changes, then you are probably wrong in your suspicions.
/thread
This won't change anything...Well, here you go.
Frontier's Stance on Bots and Cheating
Greetings Commanders, Some of you have expressed concerns over suspicions of bot usage in Elite Dangerous. Frontier is committed to offering the best gaming experience to all of our players and we actively monitor and act on any developments that might unbalance the Elite Dangerous Universe, or...
If suspected bots have been reported and you don't see any changes, then you are probably wrong in your suspicions.
/thread
The paranoia won't stop because Frontier refuse to see what players allegedly see
This won't change anything...
The paranoia won't stop because Frontier refuse to see what players allegedly see
The difficulty will always be you'll never know what the judgement was.
Only if a reported alleged botter disappears from the game, then the judgement is apparent.
a common complaint against fdev actions are that they only do temp bans if anything. So those that do get banned (and fdev does do that) ...come back knowing how to better hide or avoid being labeled as a cheater and continue with what their goal was.
This won't change anything...
The paranoia won't stop because Frontier refuse to see what players allegedly see
I have seen the Elephant old bean and it changed me, what what
Tatty bye
Only if a reported alleged botter disappears from the game, then the judgement is apparent.
Depends really. An account is not irreplaceable, and the BGS is opaque enough to mask any changes to the point you feel nothing has changed. In the mean time, the angst and mud throwing would continue and nothing really gets resolved.
True - which is essentially the 'meat' of my remark: Regardless of any action by Frontier to the 'phantom bot' operators, those who are convinced the scale is massive could never be placated because, as you point out, accounts are very cheap to buy on PC and no disclosure is made by Frontier as to the scale of their own anti-cheat operations.
Untrue, they can remove what makes the activity viable in the first place. Which happens to be the same way they can resolve a bunch of issues. It just requires creativity and effort on their part and not something they can shove a min wage temp worker on handling (like moderating player reports)
Your comment appears entirely unrelated to my content... nothing unusual in that on this forum though...
Oh, sorry - Frontier should rewrite the game to account for botters... My apology.
Seconded. It's for those 'affected' by this to take it up with FD. It's not up to the rest of us to 'police' this, it's up to FD.
This won't change anything...
The paranoia won't stop because Frontier refuse to see what players allegedly see
How many times must FDev reassure people that cheating is being monitored and handled? What do these people expect, that if they report bots, as soon as they click the reporting system "submit" button, we should see the accused instantly vanish before our eyes? FDev has their process, they don't want to talk about it to ensure it keeps working, and they take action where necessary.
It's not that easy to emulate a VR headset, as you can ask the VR software for genuity. These things are dongled top-notch, not even privacy being an option. But then, VR users never get a special cookie, in particular in ED. Rest assured, I can type thru the nosehole
O7,
Bragging again... (if you have a Rift S it is very possible!)