Make the SRV scanner actually useful.

Zieman

Zieman
PseudoShooter said:
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the audio clues.

While I rely on the visual clues to point me in a certain direction, it's the audio clues that tell me what I'm heading towards.

I rely on the audio much more than the visual to find the good stuff when using the scanner personally.
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Audio was useful back in the day. But Since 2.xx or 3.0 it has been so subdued and drowned by the SRV engine noice that to me it is useless.
 

Eliza

Eliza
Tryst said:
From my point of view it doesn't. I can't make any sense of what's on the screen at all, it may as well be a waveform on an oscilliscope because I wouldn't have a clue what I was looking at there either. Those guides you posted don't look anything like what's on my screen most of the time, there's a lot more interference with it that makes the entire screen meaningless.

It makes the SRV a complete waste of time for me, 2 hours to find 2 nodes, neither of which even gave me even one piece of Germanium. It's no wonder people are asking to buy the materials instead of trading them.

It would help if we could trade anything for anything, I have more high wake scans than I know what to do with, but they can only be traded at a certain type of trader and I don't need the items they will supply in return. If I could trade the result of high wake scans for materials, then I could actually do something because I know how to scan wakes and flying around a station getting those would be worth my time.

@Eliza: I am not an explorer, I am a trader, but even a trader needs more range on the FSD sometimes. That means engineering mods and that means going down on a planet to get mats for them.
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Either trust the tips that we veterans (2.5K hours ingame on my side) are giving to you or you remain hesitant.

We can "show you the door". Going through is your job only. 🤷‍♀️
 

Vedmo

Vedmo
Ok, here is a list of systems that have biological sites. Visit them, land at the sites, shoot stuff and collect until bins are full, then return to a material trader and trade down for whatever you need. No scanner reading required.

Outotz HD-J d9-3 B 8 D - Antimony
HIP 36601 C 1 A - Polonium
HIP 36601 C 1 d - ruthenium
HIP 36601 C 3 b - Tellurium
HIP 36601 C 5 a - Technetium
Outotz LS-K d8-3 B 5 a - Yttrium
 

Eliza

Eliza
Another tip (mentioned it fairly):

Find a geo- or bio-signature via the Detailed Surface Scanner from orbit and farm the materials from these signatures and trade them at the nearest Raw-Mats-Broker (Mostly found on (Big) Refinery-Stations).
 

Tryst

Tryst
Eliza said:
Either trust the tips that we veterans (2.5K hours ingame on my side) are giving to you or you remain hesitant.

We can "show you the door". Going through is your job only. 🤷‍♀️
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It's not like I haven't tried. I have used the SRV many times and I STILL can't make sense of the scanner, no matter how many people have said how it works.

I am a computer programmer by trade and I have tried to teach a friend how to do it. It doesn't matter how many times I try to show him, he still can't get his head around something that I find so simple. On the other hand, he is an architect and he's tried to show me how to read architectural designs and no matter how much he's tried, I still can't make heads or tails of them. We each have our own strengths and weaknesses and what one person finds easy, another may find almost impossible.
You find it easy to use the SRV scanner, I don't and no matter how many times I try, I still can't see anything but a load of interference that is totally meaningless.

But without the ability to trade ANY type of mats or even buy them, the game has come to a dead end for me. I can buy a ship with a standard type A FSD and trade and trade, but I can't get those lucrative trades that require long jumps. All I can do is make small amounts of money trading in nearby systems that are often already saturated with traders. I've Got a Cutter and several hundred million credits, trading 600+ tons of cargo for 300K profit on each trip is not exactly working for me.

@Vedmo, I'll give that a try. Thanks for that.
 

Eliza

Eliza
I'm REALLY sorry, but I think we have a "pebkac"-situation here.

It really means nothing, what you are "in real life" or what you do for a living. Yeah...you're a pro in programming. Good for you! I wish I was a programming genius.
BUT I am a (virtual) spaceship-pilot half of my "reallife" (began with 84' Elite).

What would you tell a programming scholar of yours when he insists, that it's a problem with the code and not in his understanding of the same although the code's correct?
 

Tryst

Tryst
Eliza said:
I'm REALLY sorry, but I think we have a "pebkac"-situation here.

It really means nothing, what you are "in real life" or what you do for a living. Yeah...you're a pro in programming. Good for you! I wish I was a programming genius.
BUT I am a (virtual) spaceship-pilot half of my "reallife" (began with 84' Elite).

What would you tell a programming scholar of yours when he insists, that it's a problem with the code and not in his understanding of the same although the code's correct?
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It was an analogy to explain how one person can find something easy and another person can find it impossible. No, my RL trade means nothing in this game, but I did expect you to at least understand what I was trying to say instead of coming back with an insult. Maybe I overestimated your intelligence.

Yes, I also started with Elite on the Sinclair Spectrum and Frontier and First Encounter on the Atari ST. None of which had scanners that you had to interpret like this.
 

PontifusRex

PontifusRex
Zieman said:
Audio was useful back in the day. But Since 2.xx or 3.0 it has been so subdued and drowned by the SRV engine noise that to me it is useless.
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That was the case for me until recently when I discovered a sound setting where I could boost the scanner sounds above the engine sounds.

I also stop and listen a lot too :D
 

Zieman

Zieman
Don't be to harsh. If one just can't recognise patterns if there's some interference about, then one can't.
Maybe the sound front will prove more useful.
 

Eliza

Eliza
@PseudoShooter

Let it be! Obviously the OP just don't want good advices, instead he uses this "trap-thread" to give his salt about the scanner-mechanics a stage.
I gave him the geo-site-tip some posts above.

The best thing about is, that the OP accused me to be insulting because I identified HIS problem as a "pebkac"-situation

For you OP (if you didn't knew already): pebkac=problem exists between keyboard and chair.
 
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yianniv

yianniv
Tryst said:
What are the small, solid vertical bars then? They keep appearing and disappearing all over the place.
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They're probably interference because of sharp turns. Drive slowly in a straight line and they'll not appear.
The signals are wider the further away you are from them, and become narrower as you get closer.
 

Zieman

Zieman
PseudoShooter said:
That was the case for me until recently when I discovered a sound setting where I could boost the scanner sounds above the engine sounds.

I also stop and listen a lot too :D
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Thanks for getting me check out the sound settings again!
Looks like they've changed them "recently" (within a year or two). :)
 
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