Three More Animal Only Packs - What Do You Want?

[Aramar]

Europe doesn’t need a big animal pack, all animals are found in Asia and America as well, 2, if you wanna see a lot of Leopards to the point they get annoying, watch love nature channel, lions, elephants and leopards all day long.

There are no leopards in Europe and there are no leopards in the game. I can easily think of a European pack with 10 habitat animals I would like to have . We all have different opinions. If they ever release a pack you don't like, you can go watch that channel you love so much until the next DLC is released.

 

[Fossa]

Yes opinions, so I can tell you my opinion, if frontier is smart they skip Europe and add Ibex to Asia, Moose, Lynx and Beaver to America pack, voila, no need for Europe.

 

[ElectricMonk]

I want more Australian animals, some of them are very important for me, such as the Tasmanian devil, emu or even a smaller kangaroo/wallabi. But I also think that other continents also lack their iconic animals, that's why I don't want an "Australia 2" pack before those other places have their chance too (North America, Europe and Africa). The same applies to South America. However, a general pack including Australian animals together with other continent areas would be more than welcomed for me.

Fair enough, but Africa, North America and Europe already (still) have more animals than Australia.

There are no leopards in Europe and there are no leopards in the game. I can easily think of a European pack with 10 habitat animals I would like to have . We all have different opinions. If they ever release a pack you don't like, you can go watch that channel you love so much until the next DLC is released.

Can you name 10 that are endemic (subspecies not allowed)?

 

[NL_Mutso]

I am genuinely amazed, and a bit saddened by how many people seem not to think Australia / Oceania needs more animals... even after the Australia pack there are fewer habitat species from Australia than any other continent (except Antarctica, which doesn’t really count).

Europe.

For a lot of people (let's say the casual/general players) the only 2 missing Australian animals were the koala/kangaroo and maybe the emu. Since we got the cassowary instead of the emu, people have other preferences than another big bird. (I think the emu would've been a good pick as well for the DLC)

I think the lack of those animals in RL zoos is why a lot of people aren't that interested in the first place. Kids are usually a great indication how popular an animal is.
Kids don't get excited about a wallaby/kangaroo and koalas/dingos/t.devils are a rare find in European Zoos. I was told it's kinda similar in NA and even worse in SA.

It's not that strange to me, on other platforms there are hardly any talks about australian animals after the dlc was released.
And when you see comments like "Europe doesn't deserve a DLC but Australian should get a second DLC" - I think that's just being selfish. I know some people think the European species are bland, plain or boring but for a lot of people the remaining Oceanian species are not that interesting either.

However, a general pack including Australian animals together with other continent areas would be more than welcomed for me.

Agree. I think a lot of people are influenced by your other comment too. People like to see NA, Africa and Europe get their chance to shine and when they got their attention, they are fine with more options

 

[Aramar]

Fair enough, but Africa, North America and Europe already (still) have more animals than Australia

Again, I'm not trying to start a fight about Europe vs Australia or the rest of the world. I like animals from both. I'm just saying that me, I prefer that new DLCs focus either in new areas or have broaden themes to fit all areas. Which animals are more interesting depends on each person. However, the only real fact that cannot be argued is that Europe has 5 habitat animals (including polar bear) and Australia has 5 animals. So you can't say Europe has more animals in the game than Australia, that's false.

Can you name 10 that are endemic (subspecies not allowed)?

I never said anything about endemic species. It's obvious that the animals in Europe are also found often in North America or Asia, but that's not a reason to exclude them from the game. If they release a North America or an Asia pack that contains the animals from Europe too, I won't request a European Dlc anymore because I'll already have the animals I want.

 

[Fossa]

Bland animals is your words, the biggest thing with Europe is that most of their interesting big animals are also found in America. So no need for Europe big pack.

Also, I really hate those kids then, that only care about the most overused animals on this world, because of them more interesting animals get no chance to shine.

 

[random goat]

Let people have their own opinions/preferences, maybe?

An Australian animal is as valuable as an European one. Are there more species in Australia than in Europe? Possibly. Has Australia gotten a dedicated DLC? Yes. Do both continents deserve further attention? I think we can all agree on this one: yes.

 

[ElectricMonk]

Let people have their own opinions/preferences

Who here has stopped (or tried to stop) anyone else from having an opinion?

 

[ElectricMonk]

I never said anything about endemic species. It's obvious that the animals in Europe are also found often in North America or Asia, but that's not a reason to exclude them from the game.

But it is a reason not to devote a full animal only pack to just that region.

 

[random goat]

Who here has stopped (or tried to stop) anyone else from having an opinion?

Actively, nobody.
But referring the 'pro-European animals' as "kids", pretty much neglecting European animals and saying those animals are "bland/overused" and that choosing these animals isn't "smart" doesn't sound very respectful to me.

Who here has said that someone tried to stop anyone else from having an opinion?

Anyway, I don't get why even what I posted (an attempt to reconciliate both sides of the story) has to turn into an argument too.

 

[ElectricMonk]

Actively, nobody.
But referring the 'pro-European animals' as "kids", pretty much neglecting European animals and saying those animals are "bland/overused" and that choosing these animals isn't "smart" doesn't sound very respectful to me.

Who here has said that someone tried to stop anyone else from having an opinion?

Anyway, I don't get why even what I posted (an attempt to reconciliate both sides of the story) has to turn into an argument too.

‘Kids’ and ‘bland’ were words introduced by people arguing for European animals, references to those terms were direct answers to specific comments, not statements about other posters. Similarly, ‘smart’ was in the context of ‘if Frontier was smart then...’, not as a comment about other posters or their opinions.

 

[Fini]

Actively, nobody.
But referring the 'pro-European animals' as "kids", pretty much neglecting European animals and saying those animals are "bland/overused" and that choosing these animals isn't "smart" doesn't sound very respectful to me.

Thank you!

I feel a bit dragged through the mud because i want animals from europe ... and i think they are worth doing a 7 + 1 pack. personally i have no further interest in australian animals, but i don't beat others down for wanting them. that's pretty unfair ... when you're called a kid just because you have other preferences. a little more acceptance would be appropriate. (Maybe its a translation problem and i understand something wrong - which may well be, i was never very good at english)

 

[ElectricMonk]

Thank you!

I feel a bit dragged through the mud because i want animals from europe ... and i think they are worth doing a 7 + 1 pack. personally i have no further interest in australian animals, but i don't beat others down for wanting them. that's pretty unfair ... when you're called a kid just because you have other preferences. a little more acceptance would be appropriate. (Maybe its a translation problem and i understand something wrong - which may well be, i was never very good at english)

Noone called you a kid. Fossa was responding to:

Europe.

....I think the lack of those animals in RL zoos is why a lot of people aren't that interested in the first place. Kids are usually a great indication how popular an animal is.
Kids don't get excited about a wallaby/kangaroo and koalas/dingos/t.devils are a rare find in European Zoos.

 

[random goat]

‘Kids’ and ‘bland’ were words introduced by people arguing for European animals, references to those terms were direct answers to specific comments, not statements about other posters. Similarly, ‘smart’ was in the context of ‘if Frontier was smart then...’, not as a comment about other posters or their opinions.

Well, it's hard to keep track if quotations weren't used and the user is not responding to the immediately upper post.
Assuming it was indeed a response to Mutso's post then I withdraw what I said.

Other than that, this to me could have been phrased in a more 'polite' way:

Yes opinions, so I can tell you my opinion, if frontier is smart they skip Europe and add Ibex to Asia, Moose, Lynx and Beaver to America pack, voila, no need for Europe.

It looks as if every European animal (or similar species) need to be put in other packs just for the sake of not having an European one while undermining European fauna.

 

[NL_Mutso]

Bland animals is your words, the biggest thing with Europe is that most of their interesting big animals are also found in America. So no need for Europe big pack

Nah, other people's comments. I've been around since beta - similar comments pop up in quite a few European suggestion threads (mostly by the same users).
I think it would work great with a NA big pack as well. Really depends on what species people have in mind. If you look at similarities you'll find find them but if you look at differences, you'll find them as well.

Which animals are more interesting depends on each person

Exactly. For someone 1 animal could be the most interesting species, while another thinks it's just nice.

But it is a reason not to devote a full animal only pack to just that region.

For some it would, for some don't. Isn't that whole point of the OP? Finding out what people prefer as an animal pack, if you had to pick 3.
I don't understand why people are surprised/amazed when others don't share your opinion on what species are important.

‘Kids’ and ‘bland’ were words introduced by people arguing for European animals, references to those terms errr in direct answer to specific comments, not statements about other posters.

That was me but I think people should read the actual comment.
To me, it not surprising that an interest, not knowing about other species or just a disintrest, translates to the game as well.
I think it's really interesting what kids appeals in certain species or a lack of interest. My nephew loves birds of prey, while his mother has a bird-phobia.
Or in the case of wallabies or Indian rhinos, just a 10-second glance at their habitat.
I pay more attention to that, photography is a hobby where you appreciate the quiet and less crowded areas.

I feel a bit dragged through the mud because i want animals from europe ... and i think they are worth doing a 7 + 1 pack. personally i have no further interest in australian animals, but i don't beat others down for wanting them

Exactly. Tbh, I'm biased on this part when it comes to extinct animals/dinos. I think Europe should get some attention (my preference would be 4+1 with building pieces). Same goes with NA. But when it comes to animal only, I got different preferences.

 

[Bearcat9948]

I'll operate here assuming that these 3 animal only dlcs are the last 3 we would be getting period, as I'm assuming that's what you intended. I know you and I both agree that we will be getting an aviary dlc at some point but I highly doubt it will be an animal only pack, and so I'm going to resist including any flying birds here, which would drastically change my answers. Anyways, in no particular order:

African Animals DLC Pack

• Caracal
• Cape penguin
• Meerkat
• Southern white rhino
• Fennec fox
• Helmeted guinea fowl
• Fossa
• A chameleon species. It could be veiled (desert) or Jackson's or Panther (Tropical rainforest)

Thoughts: I think the first 3-5 animals, for me, are must adds for an African animal dlc. I would say it's really not even up for discussion that an African rhino, meerkat and Cape penguin are the most 3 requested animals from that continent. I think the fennec fox is unique enough to warrant inclusion, even though some people seem to be getting tired of canids. I'd also take the bat-eared fox here. I do agree a bird should be added in this pack, it's just hard to choose one. I would love the ground hornbill as you would, but I ultimately went with the guinea fowl because it is commonly kept with other African animals. I could've chosen another ground bird, but I ultimately did not want to leave out Madagascar. Lastly, I chose a chameleon since we have none!

Endangered Species Animal DLC Pack

• Tasmanian devil
• Northern hairy-nosed wombat
• Iberian lynx
• Amur leopard
• Red-crowned crane
• Francois' langur
• Northern rock-hopper penguin
• Chinese giant salamander

Thoughts: I think with a pack like this, making sure there is a high diversity of species is extremely important. I think what I ended up with balances that along with finding a way to include some animals that would otherwise be left out, even though they are highly requested (devil, wombat and lynx notably). I feel pretty good about this selection. And you may have noticed, I purposefully did not include animals from the Western hemisphere because....

The Americas Animal DLC Pack

• American alligator
• Cougar
• California sea lion
• Capybara
• Ocelot
• Black howler monkey
• White-nosed coatimundi
• Alligator snapping turtle

Thoughts: I don't have a ton to say about this one, simply because in an ideal world, these would be two separate packs. However, I am limited to 3 here, so I chose animals from both North and South America that I would consider important, that I also personally want to see. I'd be pretty dang happy with all 3 of these packs being included.

NZ, I think I might eventually need to make a thread for us to debate a future aviary pack at some point as I've had some thoughts about it over the past few days, but this is not the place for that.

 

[random goat]

Back on topic on my part, I wouldn't choose a whole 8 European animals pack but I think the previous 4+1 DLC model (Iberian lynx, Alpine ibex, Red deer, Arctic fox, Fire salamander) would do the continent's fauna justice. I will also omit a potential Aviary Pack.
My 3 animal packs:

AFRICA
African penguin
Meerkat
Grey crowned crane
Fennec fox
Bontebok
Red river hog
Mantled guereza
Egyptian cobra

AMERICA
Puma
Moose
Wolverine
Californian sea lion
Maned wolf
Capybara
Black howler monkey
Green anole

ENDANGERED SPECIES
Amur Leopard
Tasmanian Devil
Goodfellow's tree kangaroo
Przelwaski Horse
Addax
Black Rhino
Golden Lion tamarin
Tuatara

 

[Aramar]

I think the fennec fox is unique enough to warrant inclusion, even though some people seem to be getting tired of canids.

I think the people that are tired of canids are tired of similar canids. The grey wolf, artic wolf, dingo and dhole, although they are different, they look somehow similar and like a big wild dog. The fennec fox is so different that I don't think anyone would complain about "another canid".

(hoping I don't start a new war with this comment too )

 

[DarthQuell]

Wait, is the Canadian Beaver a 3rd species or is it the same as the American Beaver? I thought there were only 2, and I've seen them in the wild in Northeast Texas.


Anyways, for me I'd like a North American pack and I was thinking about 2 biome packs:

NA:

1. Coyote - a highly adaptable canid
2. White Tailed Deer - a super common deet
3. American (Canadian?) Beaver - semi-aquatic
4. White-Nosed Coati - Racoon's cousin
5. American Black Bear - my favorite bear (and my dog looks kinda like one)
6. Puma - a powerful cat that may be relatively stronger than Lions)
7. Bobcat - a small feline that has a small tail
8. I'm torn between these 3:

• Five-Lined Skink - look up a picture
• Copperhead - a beautiful viper
• Cottonmouth/Water Mocassin - a dangerous viper

Islands Pack:
Mostly a Madagascar pack, but species from other islands

1. Coquerel's Sifaka - Madagascar
2. Black Lemur -Madagascar
3. Tasmanian Devil -Tasmania (I consider Tasmania a giant island, only because it's isolated)
4. Gentoo Penguin - Falkland Islands
5. Hawaiian Goose - Hawaii (duh)
6. Fossa - Madagascar
7. Guyanan Red Howler - can occur in the Caribbean
8. Panther Chameleon - Madagascar


Desert Pack:

1. Fennec Fox - smallest canid
2. Greater Roadrunner - a relative if oos
3. Dromedary Camel - to have both species (which are different)
4. Simitar Horned Oryx - a rare animal
5. Addax - can have an interspecies bonus with the Oryx
6. Collared Peccary - a pig-like animal
7. Caracal - a small, leaping hunter
8. Thorny Devil - a strange lizard with a pointy defense

 

[Bearcat9948]

I think the people that are tired of canids are tired of similar canids. The grey wolf, artic wolf, dingo and dhole, although they are different, they look somehow similar and like a big wild dog. The fennec fox is so different that I don't think anyone would complain about "another canid".

(hoping I don't start a new war with this comment too )

I would say I was definitely not a fan of either the Arctic wolf nor dingo being added, as it really should've been the Arctic fox and Tasmanian devil. However, I'm personally very excited about the dhole, regardless of us already getting those other two. It just seems to me that I've noticed more people on here, the reddit, YT comments and Twitter actively complaining about another canid. But I don't think something like a fennec fox would get complaints.