Odyssey - Gal Map and System Map missing information currently present in Horizons

Straha Yeagar

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I opened another bug report. This one for stellar subclass and luminosity no longer present in either the gal map information tab, or under any of the system menus and popups.


While not as big of an issue and the targeting and route plotting one, this one is still pretty bad. This is literally all the system information given on the gal map for an explored system with three stars...

Horizons...

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Same system in Odyssey...
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marx

marx
Yeah, it's pretty bad. An important thing to know about subclass and luminosity: this way, you can't tell Vz stars ("B0 VZ" and such), nor giants and such. Multiple stars in a system is even more important information.
In short, these are all useful informations, so what would be the reason for removing them?
 

Rudi Raumkraut

Rudi Raumkraut
marx said:
Yeah, it's pretty bad. An important thing to know about subclass and luminosity: this way, you can't tell Vz stars ("B0 VZ" and such), nor giants and such. Multiple stars in a system is even more important information.
In short, these are all useful informations, so what would be the reason for removing them?
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More time for pew-pew :D
 

Deleted member 38366

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Both Galaxy but especially System Map I find barely usable.

Those User Interfaces need quite an overhaul in order to achieve the Usability of the live Version.
 

5AmpFuse

5AmpFuse
Great to see this has moved to the confirmed state - I've added my vote . Not seeing the other stars in a system is a problem for me. I've got an Eagle that I like exploring in, but it's got a small tank. It's really helpful to see that there is a scoopable secondary star in a system.
 

varonica

varonica
FalconFly said:
Both Galaxy but especially System Map I find barely usable.

Those User Interfaces need quite an overhaul in order to achieve the Usability of the live Version.
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One of the biggest mistakes was removing the pop-up box that appeared when you moused over an object. You could tell at a glance how far away an object was from the primary in the system map, how far away the star you are looking at is from your current position, all that is hidden under a click menu now. Instead of just moving the mouse around over objects you have to first select the object, then select the menu you want, then you find out what you need to know....it's an annoying process that replaces a simple pop-up.

Yes I know some people didn't like the old pop-up because on less powerful computers it took too long to vanish when you moved the mouse away, but I would suggest a simple option to not use the pop-up rather than removing it altogether.
 

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varonica said:
One of the biggest mistakes was removing the pop-up box that appeared when you moused over an object. You could tell at a glance how far away an object was from the primary in the system map, how far away the star you are looking at is from your current position, all that is hidden under a click menu now. Instead of just moving the mouse around over objects you have to first select the object, then select the menu you want, then you find out what you need to know....it's an annoying process that replaces a simple pop-up.

Yes I know some people didn't like the old pop-up because on less powerful computers it took too long to vanish when you moved the mouse away, but I would suggest a simple option to not use the pop-up rather than removing it altogether.
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Yep, I miss that pop-up alot for quick Info/Navigation.

On top, the ability to have all relevant Data selected on-screen (left side in the live Version) in a single view - and then being able to mouse-over Planets rapidly to assess many Bodies in a very short time.
Fast, intuitive, very accessible and comprehensive.

All that gone at the moment and walled behind a dozen different Icons and many many mouse clicks now :(
 

Straha Yeagar

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varonica said:
One of the biggest mistakes was removing the pop-up box that appeared when you moused over an object. You could tell at a glance how far away an object was from the primary in the system map, how far away the star you are looking at is from your current position, all that is hidden under a click menu now. Instead of just moving the mouse around over objects you have to first select the object, then select the menu you want, then you find out what you need to know....it's an annoying process that replaces a simple pop-up.

Yes I know some people didn't like the old pop-up because on less powerful computers it took too long to vanish when you moved the mouse away, but I would suggest a simple option to not use the pop-up rather than removing it altogether.
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The thing is, they didn't remove mouseover all together. The new icon bars are mouseover activated, and they steal focus, so with both icon bars active, they take up 2/3 of the screen and you have to mouse click to get back to the map.
 

Susanna

Susanna
Straha Yeagar said:
I opened another bug report. This one for stellar subclass and luminosity no longer present in either the gal map information tab, or under any of the system menus and popups.


While not as big of an issue and the targeting and route plotting one, this one is still pretty bad. This is literally all the system information given on the gal map for an explored system with three stars...

Horizons...

P7bkKik.png


Same system in Odyssey...
zujZSWx.jpg
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Frankly, it's gobsmacking that yet again we have gone to Alpha (Beta) and the damned galaxy map is screwed up again!
 

5AmpFuse

5AmpFuse
Susanna said:
It's insulting that the exploration community has to even do this crap just to try and get this stuff put BACK into the galaxy map!
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"star types" -> "star class": it's not even a bug, someone intentionally changed it. It does make you wonder how much play testing FDev does for exploration play styles.
 

Straha Yeagar

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Most recent feedback thread...

Get your New Gal Map Here! Now with more intrusive and less functional Mouseover!

Continuing my series on the new Gal Map, today I am going to point out the issues with the new icon bars. One of the common complaints about the Horizons gal map was the mouseover popup when ever the mouse pointer touched a system. Sometimes it would take a while to disappear. Frustrating for...
forums.frontier.co.uk forums.frontier.co.uk

Issue report...
 
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