Looooooool, "respect" XD
Might I possibly direct you to the ill-advised thread someone started to complain about Yamiks not getting Alpha access for free, for an example of how "respected" they are among the community?
Request for a "Player Council", Resurrected DDF, Streamer Representation to Dev track, Focused Feedback or Similar Directed Community Engagement
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Might I possibly direct you to the ill-advised thread someone started to complain about Yamiks not getting Alpha access for free, for an example of how "respected" they are among the community?
Well, you know what I mean!
Not that I want to do myself out of a Seat at the High Table™ but in reality the Focussed Feedback was closest to what is needed. It would solve a lot of issues (and issues the devs would never think of) if early ideas were discussed in an open way. With structure (i.e. what we have now rules wise in responding) it would most likely save FD time lopping off dead ends like The Spinning Sampler and be a good gauge of What Players Want™ even before dev fingers started to tap out future updates.
i stand ready to implement small seismic charges in game.
I can't help but feel like the kinds of people who'd want to be part of such a player council are the last people who should be anywhere near it.
These councils will tend to get the big names, the leaders of big groups, and so on - and they're typically not representative of the majority of the playerbase.
These councils will tend to get the big names, the leaders of big groups, and so on - and they're typically not representative of the majority of the playerbase.
even focus feedback was a scrum of who can shout the loudest and post prolifically
even though i have a small seismic charge agenda to push, i disagree with any form of feedback forum / council, for that exact purpose, folk will push their own agenda and dont represent the whole community.
anyway, its not like they actually listened to any of the focus feedback forums.. look where we are with limpets despite the numerous threads and feedback in such a forum designed to "listen" to the players.
Frontier cant even police / manage / structure a bug issue tracker, they have no hope of managing a structured feedback forum.
well maybe they shouldn't
This is where I qualify Focussed Feedback with the new rules on not responding to other posters- you say your bit and thats that.
The problem that FD need to avoid is developing in a vacuum and hoping its popular- if you start with a flawed idea and iterate on that, its far too late and a lot of time is wasted. How much time could FD have saved if they had a solid foundation for engineers, Powerplay, the BGS, Odyssey, FCs?
I've seen the suggestions forum they really should.
What they need to avoid the "shouting loudest and most prolifically" problem is simply...
you get ONE post, which you may edit for clarity.
you cannot reply to or quote other posters.
you may link to relevant discussions elsewhere and exerpt them (for instance, if you'd made a C&P suggestion in the past and the feedback was C&P, you can link to and quote it)
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Or you don't allow voices at all, and have say, three initial choices and you vote on the one that tingles your berries, and from that you iterate and discuss further in that one post.
Well at least the contributors to this thread are pretty united, the vast majority say No to the idea of any kind of Players Council. So thats one bit of feedback that has been successful at least.
Personally I would trust the forum Moderators, already appointed by Frontier, to give some general feedback about whats hot on the forums and what we are getting worked up about, in a general way as part of a much larger general feedback system as long as thats all it is, with all groups and communities being valued equally. But that puts more work onto volunteers and they may not want to but its how I used to do it then could follow up with feedback or an asnwer back through the Mods, or make a statement for the Mods to pass on to the groups or even visit them if needed to answer their questions directly or even tell them No and why not. That way they knew their opinions were being passed on and mattered which is what most people actually want, to know they have been heard and not just ignored. But nobody was more special or got special treatment just coz they shouted louder or had bigger groups behind them, that just alienates other people and leads to resentment.
Personally I would trust the forum Moderators, already appointed by Frontier, to give some general feedback about whats hot on the forums and what we are getting worked up about, in a general way as part of a much larger general feedback system as long as thats all it is, with all groups and communities being valued equally. But that puts more work onto volunteers and they may not want to but its how I used to do it then could follow up with feedback or an asnwer back through the Mods, or make a statement for the Mods to pass on to the groups or even visit them if needed to answer their questions directly or even tell them No and why not. That way they knew their opinions were being passed on and mattered which is what most people actually want, to know they have been heard and not just ignored. But nobody was more special or got special treatment just coz they shouted louder or had bigger groups behind them, that just alienates other people and leads to resentment.
Robert Maynard
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How would it be confirmed that all those who voted were entitled to vote, i.e. actually own the game?
.... remembering that when Frontier conducted the Ship Transfer poll it required logging in to ones Frontier account to vote (and even then some "voted" who had created accounts but did not own E: D - those fraudulent votes were, of course, removed).
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That sounds awfully similar to what I would expect to be part of a Community Manager's job spec
You could do it a number of ways, but for the fundamental 'seed' idea choice you could do it through your game client.
as long as one choice is small seismic charges that would tingle my berries.
Under Rubbernukes rule, each Rubbernuke dollar will be worth seven Arx's.. for that is the rate of exchange they will agree when he kidnaps their Braben.
For you, my choices shaped your life.Under Rubbernukes rule, each Rubbernuke dollar will be worth seven Arx's.. for that is the rate of exchange they will agree when he kidnaps their Braben.
For me, it was just Tuesday.
I'm deeply hurt by this.