A game like what? Making the game Roberts has promised would be insanely, prohibitively expensive, even it were possible. What they've dribbled out to date, on the other hand, in no way reflects the absurd amount of money they've burnt in the process.
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As announced at Citizen Con 2016. Jumping to new systems coming about December 2017...
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As announced at Citizen Con 2016. Jumping to new systems coming about December 2017...
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SQ42 was coming the same year..... and the year after. Riiiiiiiiight!
My point is that the claim of just CIG just being a humble independent studio a handful of people working from a small office dissolves when you take into account contractors, such as Illfonic, Turbulent, Imaginarium (the company still lists SC/Squadron 42 as TBA), etc. - none of which were doing work pro bono.
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Whoooosh.
Should I point out that CIG only asked for 2M initially?
Make that 0.5 million actually.
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I remeber not too long ago someone linking a review of actual developer costs to a company, which goes way beyond the actual salary, including social charges and overhead etc. I remember the bottom line was actually more around 100,000 on average for the total costs per individual for a company, per year.
Does anyone have that link?
"Ortwin, they keep giving money! What do I do?!" "Take it you fool! Tell them you do some additional goals!"
I'm not sure what you guys are trying to calculate right there? Who works 10 years on a game and can't deliver? The ones in development hell. How big their staff is or their onions doesn't really matter, does it?
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Making a game can become very expensive too if you lack the competence, mismanage and waste the funds given to you in good faith.
Ah, pay a visit to /r/sc_refunds some time. There's one or two people over there who get a little... intense.
Romantically you mean? Nah, I rather stay here. Mole's purple beard was a hefty blow but sometimes you just gotta take it.
Exactly! And Chris Roberts said he could make the game for a fifth of what it would cost with a traditional publisher! So in reality SC would already a 2 billion dollar alpha if done by a traditional developer!
Unless.... Xink can deliver a game for a fifth of what CR can do it for with his own proprietary development model!
Oh boy. Let's crack on...
- Grand Theft Auto:
$265m$137m- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2:
$300m$50m- Cyberpunk 2077:
$330m$121m+- Star Citizen:
$410m~$350m to date (assuming ~$60m spent on marketing so far)- Red Dead II:
$550m$240mList of most expensive video games to develop - Wikipedia
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You really should at least use google.
Why should he use Google? The numbers he used came straight for faithful central, and they always fact check everything /s
As for your numbers for Star Citizen, this brings us back to how much one should believe CIG's statements. However, they did release their financial report for the UK at least... but that doesn't tell the whole picture.
As for whether the Calder money is going to marketing or not, we don't really know. The narrative on that one flip flopped a few times depending on what defense the faithful needed to erect at the time.
Why not? I wrote a subsim on a 2KB programmable calculator and a golf sim. I can do the toilet sim routine, too, I'm confident.
Fair enough.
Yeah, and that would be a polite way to describe Chris, incompetent.
I'll check out your vids thanks
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Well, let´s say that is just one of the options that can easily explain a lot of the issues we discuss, and that you seem to ignore every time
Shouldn't that say "you'll both get one EACH to keep forever"
With the many things said in the latest posts, can we all agree on Roberts' Razor, a new one that's simultaneously Hanlon's and its contrary. That even perfectly fits with the Schrodinger mess.
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