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You can't do better than consult @Lance 'Spacecat' D.'s inestimable "The Popular Guide To Mining":
direct link : https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1npzKEXpExd1aEz_hLvlQIELL1uX4gvVHtY9AhQ-CcCI/edit#slide=id.p
forum thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-popular-guide-to-mining.244228/post-3795484
direct link : https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1npzKEXpExd1aEz_hLvlQIELL1uX4gvVHtY9AhQ-CcCI/edit#slide=id.p
forum thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-popular-guide-to-mining.244228/post-3795484
I forgot to mention (it isn't explicit in that guide) - at the moment (Horizons) core rocks always have the same shape - so no matter how bright they may look, if they are not the right shape, they won't have cores. You will soon learn the shapes but here is a pic showing core rocks in icy rings (popcorn shapes) and the tear-shape of core rocks in metallic rings (not my work):
The problem with core mining nowadays is that a lot of cores will not be as advertised and they can be few and far between, that does not matter if you don't mind a mixed load, most of my mining ships can do all types of mining.
When you start it might be worthwhile to do it in a system with a station, when setting up a miner for core and SD/SSD mining placement of weapons can affect the way they fire, so you may find you need to move a SSDM or an AB to a different weapon location for optimum results, just remember to offload any mined goods before returning to the ring. Basically you want SSDM, SCL and AB as near to centre line of ship and lasers on outer weapon points.
When you start it might be worthwhile to do it in a system with a station, when setting up a miner for core and SD/SSD mining placement of weapons can affect the way they fire, so you may find you need to move a SSDM or an AB to a different weapon location for optimum results, just remember to offload any mined goods before returning to the ring. Basically you want SSDM, SCL and AB as near to centre line of ship and lasers on outer weapon points.
Ain't that the truth. In more ways than one. I may be extremely unlucky, but when I drop into an "X" hotspot, I can be sure that there will be all kinds of stuff in the cores except "X".
Still good, many minerals pay awesomely, these days, but I hope I won't ever need a specific core mineral for anything, because then it will get frustrating really fast.
I am close to Bunda in the Bubble. What would be a good system to enter to experience all three types of mining but less so the laser stuff as I have a lot of experience with that. It is playing with deep core and ssd that excites me. Not looking to make a fortune atm just enjoy the ride.
I was going to say use the miner's tool but I don't know if it would help for something close by. https://edtools.cc/miner
Yes I tried the tool but it doesnt explain deep core and SSD mining or even laser mining. I am not really looking for laser mining but rather some experience with deep core and ssd mining. I am very much a novice and so just want a sysrtem to practice these types of mining close to the centre of the bubble.
The only other thing I can suggest is to try the Advanced Search of Celestial Bodies on EDSM like:
www.edsm.net
I don't know how to get it to show other than "Distance to Sol" - no doubt you could refine it by playing about.
Good luck
EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map
The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.
www.edsm.net
I don't know how to get it to show other than "Distance to Sol" - no doubt you could refine it by playing about.
Good luck
Its a long time since I was down that way but one that I have got bookmarked for some unknown reason is hip 16663 a pristine system with all 4 ring types.
The nearer the center of the bubble you go the poorer the quality of the ring could be, always aim for Pristine systems.
The basic's,
Map the rings with DSS to show hotspots.
Make sure you have assigned your Pulse Wave Analyser to a trigger
Drop into a hotspot and slowly fly through it firing your PWA
Anything that glows yellow will have SD or SSD deposits, fire prospector limpet into these rocks and use appropriate weapon to extract minerals/metals.
The AB you have to hold the trigger until it fires, the SSDM you hold the trigger until the missile reaches the right depth in the asteroid.
Fast spinning asteroids take some practice to hit right.
These rocks will also contain Laserable deposits which can also be mined.
A Core rock will also have Asteroid fissures in them. first do any laser, SD and SSD on a core then fire your SCL charges into the fissures, again it is practice you need the right amount of charge to crack a rock, too little and it does not crack too much and it destroys most of the material.
Move back away before the charges go off, 1km or more is safe anything less and you could end up with damage, possibly rebuy in a weaker ship
move back in after the bang and let limpets collect fragments, you will also have to use your AB to break off SD deposits on rock fragments.
Have fun.
P.S. Forgot to mention watch your six, it is very easy to place charges and then back into another rock while trying to get out of blast range
The nearer the center of the bubble you go the poorer the quality of the ring could be, always aim for Pristine systems.
The basic's,
Map the rings with DSS to show hotspots.
Make sure you have assigned your Pulse Wave Analyser to a trigger
Drop into a hotspot and slowly fly through it firing your PWA
Anything that glows yellow will have SD or SSD deposits, fire prospector limpet into these rocks and use appropriate weapon to extract minerals/metals.
The AB you have to hold the trigger until it fires, the SSDM you hold the trigger until the missile reaches the right depth in the asteroid.
Fast spinning asteroids take some practice to hit right.
These rocks will also contain Laserable deposits which can also be mined.
A Core rock will also have Asteroid fissures in them. first do any laser, SD and SSD on a core then fire your SCL charges into the fissures, again it is practice you need the right amount of charge to crack a rock, too little and it does not crack too much and it destroys most of the material.
Move back away before the charges go off, 1km or more is safe anything less and you could end up with damage, possibly rebuy in a weaker ship
move back in after the bang and let limpets collect fragments, you will also have to use your AB to break off SD deposits on rock fragments.
Have fun.
P.S. Forgot to mention watch your six, it is very easy to place charges and then back into another rock while trying to get out of blast range
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Thanks for all the help so far. I am preparing to go to a system with rings (HIP 16663) to practice my mining types.
I have a carrier so can use this for storeage (and so also to avoid potential pirates) as well as testing my configuration.
Here is the build I have so far :
I need help with the hardpoints as I dont know where to site them all for best effect.
So am I ready to go mining? Or is there more to set up?
I have a carrier so can use this for storeage (and so also to avoid potential pirates) as well as testing my configuration.
Here is the build I have so far :
I need help with the hardpoints as I dont know where to site them all for best effect.
So am I ready to go mining? Or is there more to set up?
The only thing worthy of note is that of the three tools you would be aiming with (SSDM, Charge launcher and Abrasion blaster) the one you're going to be using the most should be on the centreline hardpoint. (SSDMs are hard to hit with so maybe those for the start, before you try and know for yourself)
Although I guess Python is quite forgiving - all the hardpoints are pretty close. On something like T9, when you have the weapons so far apart both vertically and horizontally, remembering which crosshair belongs to what, let alone hitting something with a weapon that shoots really far off your line of sight can be... well let's say challenging.
Charge Launcher as central as possible next best location for the Sub Surface Missiles then the Abrasion Blasters was the way I set up Mining Lasers can go anywhere that can hit the rock.Thanks for all the help so far. I am preparing to go to a system with rings (HIP 16663) to practice my mining types.
I have a carrier so can use this for storeage (and so also to avoid potential pirates) as well as testing my configuration.
Here is the build I have so far :
I need help with the hardpoints as I dont know where to site them all for best effect.
So am I ready to go mining? Or is there more to set up?
But like everything else in this game try it and adjust until it feels right for you.
With the carrier handy If you are not happy with the aim just jump back and relocate the weapons and try again. Don't Forget to unload any cargo if in NPC area
my setup in Outfitting hardpoints top to bottom
SCL
SSDM
AB
Laser
Laser
Normal trigger setup on all my miners,
Fire group 1
T1 Lasers and Collectors, T2 Prospector
Fire group 2
T1 PWA, T2 Prospector
Fire group 3
T1 SSDM, T2 AB
Fire group 4
T1 SCL, T2 AB
It works for me, you may find another setup easier.
Thats about it for setup although your shields may be a bit weak, them rocks can be mean when you misjudge a fast spinning one or cannot get out the way of an exploding core
Ice Miner One of my main miners, 2 SSDM's fitted to save running back for ammo.
The only other thing is Practice, Practice, Practice.
Have fun.
my setup in Outfitting hardpoints top to bottom
SCL
SSDM
AB
Laser
Laser
Normal trigger setup on all my miners,
Fire group 1
T1 Lasers and Collectors, T2 Prospector
Fire group 2
T1 PWA, T2 Prospector
Fire group 3
T1 SSDM, T2 AB
Fire group 4
T1 SCL, T2 AB
It works for me, you may find another setup easier.
Thats about it for setup although your shields may be a bit weak, them rocks can be mean when you misjudge a fast spinning one or cannot get out the way of an exploding core
Ice Miner One of my main miners, 2 SSDM's fitted to save running back for ammo.
The only other thing is Practice, Practice, Practice.
Have fun.
If you can, try and find a nice ring out of the bubble. If you are far enough out, you won't be interrupted by pirates and you can safely exit the game without being hassled on your return.Thanks for all the help so far. I am preparing to go to a system with rings (HIP 16663) to practice my mining types.
I have a carrier so can use this for storeage (and so also to avoid potential pirates) as well as testing my configuration.
Here is the build I have so far :
I need help with the hardpoints as I dont know where to site them all for best effect.
So am I ready to go mining? Or is there more to set up?
However, if you are going to fly away before exiting, this is a moot point
It is most satisfactory when you successfully blow up a roid but collector limpets sometimes struggle with negotiating their way through the debris.
Good luck!
what ship is this on?
If you are mining for whatever you can find then stick with the 4A refinery as it has more bins so you can collect up to 10 different types at once and also stores effectively another 10 tonnes when your cargo is full, the 2A only has 6 bins so is less flexible.
I wouldn't use the bi-weave on a non combat ship they are better where you are expecting many fights in a short period as their forte is fast recovery not absolute strength. If you went the prismatic route consider a smaller shield to cut down on the mass but retain or increase shield strength.
Best protection for a miner is avoiding the fight.
My python Miner.