LOL You just went all in crazy, I’d say please do that, make it mandatory, drag the scumbags out in the streets and force vaccinate them all, the sooner the better, I can’t wait, it will be the last push we need to end this crap, I will be waiting to see how that pans out.The more I read about anti-vaxxers the more I think we should just make the jabs compulsory. Thankfully not an issue here in the UK.
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General / Off-Topic The Covid vaccine must be mandatory ?
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I'm far more concerned about saving lives than mollycoddling the feelings of conspiracy theorists and scammers. It'll go the same way as mask refusal the naysayers will just be another category of comedy meltdown following denied service video's doing the rounds on social media.
OMG the sheer number of banners I've seen from the anti vaccination crowd this week with "STOP VACCINATING HEALTHY PEOPLE"
THAT IS LITERALLY HOW VACCINES WORK, KAREN. YOU GIVE THEM TO HEALTHY PEOPLE SO THEY STAY THAT WAY.
THAT IS LITERALLY HOW VACCINES WORK, KAREN. YOU GIVE THEM TO HEALTHY PEOPLE SO THEY STAY THAT WAY.
Here's a combined example of a someone removing his mask on a plane (possibly to bite other passengers) getting extremely violent, being restrained and then forcibly medicated against his will. He's now being prosecuted, he's also banned from flying and did it all with methamphetamine on him.
It's almost as if it's already fine to disregard and override certain peoples wishes and medical preferences if they present a danger.
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It's almost as if it's already fine to disregard and override certain peoples wishes and medical preferences if they present a danger.
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An keep other NPIs active until good progress is made .
Still, quite a small percentage. And I rather have shingles than Covid, so it's a risk I would take, which I took. However, at the time I didn't know about that side effect, but had I known, it wouldn't have changed my decision.However in France 112 cases have been identified and in Switzerland 61 cases, which is already a lot I find.
Certainly better than the combined French and Swiss covid death toll of 114197.
The optimal solution is not to have the covid and not to have Shingles by the vaccination.
This is the case for me. No covid, no zona, no vaccination.
Concerning the 103000 deaths from Covid in France, I prefer have 103000 deaths punctually, the time of an epidemic, than 100000 deaths each year due to pollution, yes each year in France ...
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For my part I gave my AZ vaccine to someone else and without hesitation.
A negative Covid test or the presence of antibodies allow access to everything as for the vaccinated.
Especially because the vaccination is not a panacea.
Immunization time, variants, medium / long term side effects, vaccine shortage etc ...
Corona virus has already killed over three million people. Have you gone full on fake virus anti-vax now ?.Worse than the Covid.
Indeed. I’m still not in favour of compulsory vaccinations for the general population no matter how pro-vaccine I am (I think it should be more carrot than stick), but for NHS staff and care home workers it absolutely should be imho.
That was 2 weeks ago and we have not seen anything since.
Not too sure, how the NHS, is going to deal with 6,000 staff, being refused access to their work place. That said: Said unvaccinated staff, would still face the same issue, in the private sector.
Although it would be advisable to have all hospital staff vaccinated, it sounds like, a lot of noise to me.
They could still go down the daily testing route, especially for those that cannot have the jab. If it is OK, to break quarantine rules, by providing a negative test, to be let off early. Then the same should apply, for going to work.
Funny thing: In some areas of the U.K. there are still up to 20% of kids, refusing tests (as is their right apparently), but still going to school.
The problem is not testing positive for covid doesn’t mean you don’t have it with the quick tests. By the time you get a result from a PCR test you might have spread it all over the place.
NHS staff should be well enough informed to understand the risks and that they or their patients are at a higher risk if they don’t take a vaccine. I think they should be given a choice which one but if they don’t want one when told they have to have one, then disciplinary proceedings should be put into place; other jobs are available if they feel that strongly about it. I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way, it’s just life (I’ve been in my job 20 years because I accept my job asks things of me I don’t like but are worth the sacrifice).
Care home staff should have to be vaccinated even more so then NHS staff but it gets complicated here I think. Care homes are mostly staffed by young (under paid) people that aren’t at risk from the virus.
I know what you mean about the kids but they are kids. They can’t be blamed for refusing tests. It’s almost certainly coming from their parents.
Not really needed in the NHS I think, there were a few but their wonky opinions don't seem to have survived actual contact with the virus. Or their willingness to be open about it, social pressure and all that it's hard to tell.
For the general population I'm not sure it's required either, we've got key workers and the most vulnerable vaccinated and are working down the list. As casualties in the vulnerable categories continue shrinking and casualties in the vax-refusal types don't it may well demonstrate to some anti-vaxxers where the truth lies. We'll have to wait and see.
If we struggle to achieve herd immunity and casualties in people with genuine vaccine exemptions for medical reasons stay high then make it compulsory for travel, drivers licence, passport, education, jobs and anything else that requires an application. If that doesn't work then pin people down and do it anyway. No rush though.
The needs of the many.
Playing, Devil's Advocate here. Before someone get their tar brush out.
1st: If said NHS staff are so well informed. Why are some refusing the jab?
2nd: NHS staff have been on the front line and I know in the early days, due to a lack of PPE (which now apparently, didn't happen), some became infected and some died: But for months before being vaccinated, 100,000s of them, managed to control the spread of infections, day in and day out. Having the vaccination, should not mean a change, of behaviour or a reduction of caution, within the NHS system. So why after a vaccine has become available, does it become a sackable offence, not to have it? None of the vaccines, at this time, offer 100% immunity, or 100% avoidance of passing the virus to others. Not all NHS staff, have been offered the vaccine, at this time. There are still staff, like porters, that are waiting for their age bracket, to be called forward, for the jab. So, the magic vaccine, is not the quick fix, or the impregnable shield, it is often sold, to be.
3rd: Disciplinary proceedings: It would be interesting to see the first time that happens. A polite, educated black female doctor, with the full backing of her union, human rights and a few do gooders. It could be interesting. A spotty snot, who just empties the bins, would just get a text, telling him, not to come back.
Young people, are at risk from the virus. That was the basic reason, for the 3rd lock-down, in the U.K.
Agreed: Since when have school kids, been able to think, for themselves. Mums, in house coats, slippers and a dogend, in the well manicured hands, have a lot to answer for. That is probably where most of the anti-vaxers, are recruited.
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