ANNOUNCEMENT Odyssey Update 2021

[stormyuk]

Anger and Criticism are totally understandable. These are not against the forum rules.

Putting directed or general insults and calling people 'morons' is not and is against the rules.

Critic the game by all means. Do not attack anyone or post back to back messages spaming the same message. These too break the forum rules.

 

[WaveRider]

Provide links and timecodes. Without these, you are just making affirmations out of nowhere.

I do like those who request time stamps etc, or else it never happened. I am merely affirming what I myself have heard, so not really out of nowhere....I'm right here!

Anyway, with respect, it doesn't bother me if you wish to believe me or not; I am happy that I have a DLC that has provided an upgrade to what I had and promises to get better. I am happy that I have heard those involved with Odyssey state that the fact there are issues with the game release is not a surprise and that they look for the players to help them through fixing these issues. I also understand and believe there are those that are not happy, however I don't feel the need to ask them to prove what is wrong with their situation by providing evidence (otherwise it didn't happen ).

If you are interested just take a look at many of the streams on Twitch that have been recently broadcast, and if you are having issues I hope they are rectified soon. <O

 

[Ancient Forester]

Quick question (I'll self report this, so a moderator can decide if it should be moved to a separate thread):
If you are on Intel and have problems: Are you on the consumer (1000-series socket) or high end (enthusiast/workstation, 2000-series socket)
If you are on AMD and have problems: Are you on the B-series or X-series chipset?

Reason behind question: I have been trawling angry forum posts and bug reports and the pattern I'm seeing is that an overwhelming amount of problems are on workstation/enthusiast-series chipsets/sockets. I'm starting to suspect either a windows or driver problem with multiple memory channels and increased PCIexpress lanes.

 

[[VR] James Constantine]

it is CRYSTAL CLEAR that my game is gone and I will never be playing it ever again
its been gone for 4 days now

While I would not be one of those sycophants who are presently happy to bend over and swear blindly that FDev is presently carrying out a perfectly normal prostrate exam, I do think you might be over-reacting, just a bit. Was the game released too soon? Yes. Is the state in which the game was released ethically dubious? Certainly. But is ED gone for ever? No, probably not.

As long as FDev's financials are solid, they'll eventually fix it all. It's a bummer that we may have months of playing a half-baked game in front of us, but it will eventually get sorted out in the long term. I don't think blowing off steam here is of any harm, as to have an effect on PR would require games journalists to actually research their articles, rather than cut and paste from the first Web site they come across, which is why I'm happy to do so here and not poison the well with any negative reviews in those places.

I do believe FDev deserve to be slapped about with a large fish for this fiasco, but at the same time, I don't think it's the end of ED, let alone the World, and if they do get a little burnt from this experience, then ultimately only good will come of it, in the long run.

 

[[VR] James Constantine]

I do like those who request time stamps etc, or else it never happened. I am merely affirming what I myself have heard, so not really out of nowhere....I'm right here!

You get those requests because often such claims never did happen.

 

[Clidsy]

Been playing for about 3 hours today and all is working well for a 6 year old machine iMac running Windows under bootcamp - 24gb ram, 4ghz quad core intel i7. AMD Radeon R9 M395x 4gb. FPS drops a bit (from 60FMS to about 30) as I approach planet surfaces (to be expected considering age), but everything else is good - loads quicker than Horizons and no problems with the launcher. I'm going to give it more time tomorrow - just shocked that people on much better kit than mine are having such issues.

 

[MacIntoc]

I do like those who request time stamps etc, or else it never happened. I am merely affirming what I myself have heard, so not really out of nowhere....I'm right here!

The thing is that i affirme that FDev said exactly the opposite throughout the alpha. FDev said the planetary technology would be finished by launch, that the graphics engine would be finished and optimization would be done by launch, that the thousands of bugs reported throughout the alpha are fixed in the trunk of the release. I also state that many players, during the alpha, recommended to delay the launch by at least 1 month to give the dev time to finish and fix the game. Result at release date :
-planetary tech is still in progress
-graphic engine is still in progress
-so optimisations are not here
-almost all bugs from alphas are still here

And on top of that, because i bought Odyssey on Frontier's store and not on Steam, the updates are not correct. So the launcher requires an update that i can't access on Steam. As a result, i can't play Odyssey and i can't play Horizon either. As a bonus, since i didn't buy Odyssey on Steam, i can't even give my opinion on this mess. It's easy to understand why FDev isn't in a hurry to give away the Steam keys.

 

[WaveRider]

You get those requests because often such claims never did happen.

So you haven't got the Odyssey DLC that has provided upgrades to the original game? You haven't been told that there will be more content provided as time goes by? You haven't heard those involved with the game state that a upgrade such as this would not have gone perfect and that they are sorry for the issues, but if the player base can let them know the issues they are having, they will do their best to rectify the issue as quick as possible.

Of course it is entirely possible you haven't, or anybody else for that matter. I am sorry for you, know wonder you're all in the dark about this. <O

 

[VR Lucian Arkright]

Yeah, that video of David Braben publicly praising his dev team after Odyssey launch for a job well done really does show that NOBODY at FDev have any idea what happens outside their offices.

You mean the video where he did actually apologise and acknowledge the issues, while praising the team for all their hard work?

 

[Cmdr Scorpion]

Been playing for about 3 hours today and all is working well for a 6 year old machine iMac running Windows under bootcamp - 24gb ram, 4ghz quad core intel i7. AMD Radeon R9 M395x 4gb. FPS drops a bit (from 60FMS to about 30) as I approach planet surfaces (to be expected considering age), but everything else is good - loads quicker than Horizons and no problems with the launcher. I'm going to give it more time tomorrow - just shocked that people on much better kit than mine are having such issues.

I'm on PC and old low power machine GTX1050 and am not having any trouble today after they enabled Carrier jumps.
Mostly 60 FPS dropping to about 30-40 in stations at times. Settings on High

So now no complaints, I am sure that they will fix any issues as soon as possible.
Also and given the amount of insults and bad mouthing I don't think that it helps, Constructive polite criticism could go a long way.

 

[WaveRider]

The thing is that i affirme that FDev said exactly the opposite throughout the alpha. FDev said the planetary technology would be finished by launch, that the graphics engine would be finished and optimization would be done by launch, that the thousands of bugs reported throughout the alpha are fixed in the trunk of the release. I also state that many players, during the alpha, recommended to delay the launch by at least 1 month to give the dev time to finish and fix the game. Result at release date :
-planetary tech is still in progress
-graphic engine is still in progress
-so optimisations are not here
-almost all bugs from alphas are still here

And on top of that, because i bought Odyssey on Frontier's store and not on Steam, the updates are not correct. So the launcher requires an update that i can't access on Steam. As a result, i can't play Odyssey and i can't play Horizon either. As a bonus, since i didn't buy Odyssey on Steam, i can't even give my opinion on this mess. It's easy to understand why FDev isn't in a hurry to give away the Steam keys.

Well I am certainly no programmer, but I have certainly heard many indicate that they dread a patch day because as soon as a developer fixes one patch - another appears. Then there is the fact that with the PC you have so many elements that are different that it will be difficult to have everything perfect at release. I'm sorry but I won't be able to provide time stamps and evidence for those points either.

I actually expect all that you have listed to always be under progress, as technology is always changing and there will always be upgrades to address, and bugs to iron out - I'm sure I had updates for Horizon and many other games that are 'finished'....but aren't because why would they need upgrades lol.

Again, I have no doubt there are many having issues, I hope they have those issues addressed soon - my replies aren't meant to antagonise those that are unhappy. But that doesn't stop me with being happy with my situation and believing the Devs do not want people to abandon their game so they end up out of a job - but are probably doing all they can to rectify the situation. <O

 

[NotARealName]

If you want your account removed then please email community@frontier.co.uk

I think that these kinds of answer are only fueling the fire and are an inappropriate response to the subject. It is clearly showing a lack of perspective and contempt. Sir, you shouldn't have moderation power.

 

[[VR] James Constantine]

So you haven't got the Odyssey DLC that has provided upgrades to the original game? You haven't been told that there will be more content provided as time goes by? You haven't heard those involved with the game state that a upgrade such as this would not have gone perfect and that they are sorry for the issues, but if the player base can let them know the issues they are having, they will do their best to rectify the issue as quick as possible.

No, the Odyssey DLC has not provided working upgrades to the original game. It does not qualify as a release product. Even logging and graphical optimization issues aside, there are so many really obvious bugs that alone make it close to unplayable - that you have to log out whenever you finish outfitting, simply because the transition back to the station is broken, is embarrassing from a development viewpoint and demonstrates a complete lack of even basic unit testing.

Content, either now or later is irrelevant, as I've not heard anyone complain about it or the lack thereof. Not that it would matter because if you can't access the content, because the game isn't stable, it makes the question moot.

I've reverted to Horizons, for the most part, because Odyssey is presently unplayable.

 

[NotARealName]

Did they state it was 'finished'? Every stream I've seen indicates this is merely a big step towards increasing what you can do in game. The advertisements advertise the main step here is 'space legs'; but they also stated this isn't all - there will be continuous improvements and new stuff to come.

Of course, requesting a person to purchase Odyssey will help them with the costs of taking these steps - but I really enjoy the game so was happy to do so (even though I am not a core FPS player).

Seems wanting to be a victim has become a norm to.

It's a "full release" therefore it is a finished product. We all knew that many of the content might not be availed at launch, but it it's current state; this is not a full release therefor not a finished product. If you bought a new car; would you consider it normal that the manufacturer would ask you to report to him the defects of the car? No, you would expect a working car; not one with square wheels... This is clearly an open beta and wasn't marketed as such. It was marketed as a full release. Seems fanboy in denial of reality getting screwed over by corporation had to become the norm.

 

[MacIntoc]

Well I am certainly no programmer, but I have certainly heard many indicate that they dread a patch day because as soon as a developer fixes one patch - another appears. Then there is the fact that with the PC you have so many elements that are different that it will be difficult to have everything perfect at release. I'm sorry but I won't be able to provide time stamps and evidence for those points either.

I actually expect all that you have listed to always be under progress, as technology is always changing and there will always be upgrades to address, and bugs to iron out - I'm sure I had updates for Horizon and many other games that are 'finished'....but aren't because why would they need upgrades lol.

Again, I have no doubt there are many having issues, I hope they have those issues addressed soon - my replies aren't meant to antagonise those that are unhappy. But that doesn't stop me with being happy with my situation and believing the Devs do not want people to abandon their game so they end up out of a job - but are probably doing all they can to rectify the situation. <O

Dude !! We're talking about bugs reported over 2 months ago by hundreds of players. We are talking about unfinished core components. We are not talking about bugs discovered at the last minute missed by the testing process. Most of the bugs reported in the release are know bugs. They were fully aware of the state of the expansion. Even players were aware that it would not be wise to release so soon.

 

[WaveRider]

No, the Odyssey DLC has not provided working upgrades to the original game.

Incorrect, because I am playing a working upgrade.

It does not qualify as a release product.

Incorrect, as it has been release and I have played it.

Even logging and graphical optimization issues aside, there are so many really obvious bugs that alone make it close to unplayable - that you have to log out whenever you finish outfitting, simply because the transition back to the station is broken, is embarrassing from a development viewpoint and demonstrates a complete lack of even basic unit testing.

Yet I have been playing it.
I too have had issues with my Pioneer skin, so I just didn't bother myself with it. I'm sure it will get sorted.

Content, either now or later is irrelevant, as I've not heard anyone complain about it or the lack thereof. Not that it would matter because if you can't access the content, because the game isn't stable, it makes the question moot.

I've reverted to Horizons, for the most part, because Odyssey is presently unplayable.

If content now doesn't matter, then why are you complaining? And if you don't care about future content....I'm really not sure what your issue is about?
As for general content, I may not frequent the forums as much as others, but there have been many who have suggested ways of improving the game (I don't want to say they were complaining, as I feel they were just wanting to make the game better rather than complain).

So you have reverted to Horizons and are awaiting the fixes for Odyssey to be sorted - again, I understand your disappointment, but what you are describing hardly sound earth shattering.

 

[Úlfhéðnar]

Dude !! We're talking about bugs reported over 2 months ago by hundreds of players. We are talking about unfinished core components. We are not talking about bugs discovered at the last minute missed by the testing process. Most of the bugs reported in the release are know bugs. They were fully aware of the state of the expansion. Even players were aware that it would not be wise to release so soon.

And? You never can fix anything and they fixed a big amount of bugs. Because similar or even the same bugs reappear doesnt mean they fixed the previous reason. It is extremly likely that one thing was fixed and smth else broke resulting in the same or a similar issue whats your point here?
Dont get me wrong its still filled with bug, but that doesnt mean that it are exactly the same bugs with the same reason. You can NEVER rule out all issues. Even with tests or from feedback you can still miss stuff. Also you forget that the Alpha was detached from the live servers. All fixes and all that only survive until the first contact with productive.

 

[MacIntoc]

Incorrect, because I am playing a working upgrade.

Question of a point of view. From my perspective, i can't even play Horizon, so it's a tough downgrade.

 

[Úlfhéðnar]

Question of a point of view. From my perspective, i can't even play Horizon, so it's a tough downgrade.

Why can't you play horizon tho. What is stopping you odyssey and base Ed are 2 different installs btw so

 

[Shimy]

Question of a point of view. From my perspective, i can't even play Horizon, so it's a tough downgrade.

Agree.