ANNOUNCEMENT Odyssey Update 2021

[MacIntoc]

And as stated, as some bugs are addressed, others may occur - others that may need you to accept the original issues for a longer period of time.

Again, personally I have no issues with them releasing it when they have, because I am enjoying it. But again I know some are not; I hope that you and they will soon be in a position to be happy. <O

If the bugs generate new bugs, you add them to your list of known bugs. And as long as this list of known bugs does not go below a certain threshold, well... you don't announce a release or you postpone the release.
Apart from the quality and reliability of the testing process, what defines the quality of a program at its release is the choice of this threshold. FDev has chosen a known bug threshold that is completely out of whack or has chosen to ignore the threshold he initially set. It's his choice, it's his responsibility. And as players and consumers, there is no reason to bear the responsibility and suffer the consequences.
So maybe in your personal case the game works and meets your expectations. Good for you. Enjoy it. And go post a glowing review on Steam or Epic Store, FDev needs it. But don't say that those who suffer from FDev's scew up decisions should just wait and accept the situation in silence. If you can't understand that, the discussion is over.

Did you try running the launcher direct from the instal folder? That's what worked for me in the end to get odyssey installed in the first place although it hasn't helped with the last hotfix.

Yes, I get this :

 

[[VR] James Constantine]

But I haven't bought a red car that breaks down every 6 minutes.

Then you're very lucky. Or lying. For the vast majority it is breaking down every six miles.

In fact the only real issue I have had with Odyssey is my Pioneer skin so far. You seem to want me to lose it over things that to me, I am happy to accept. Maybe if the things that are happening to others happened to me I would be enraged - but until that happens, I'm sorry I'm not.

Are you suggesting I or the vast majority who are unhappy with this release are 'losing it'? It appears that your definition of losing it is any complaint at all.

Incorrect. However, it is the answer when people say the game is unplayable, yet I am playing it.

Yes, and it's working fine for you. And you heard FDev specifically saying we were only going to get an incomplete release. And you privately witnessed David Braben turn water into wine.

 

[[VR] James Constantine]

So.... A few interesting things have been said here, the simple truth is that the EDO version is a bad mess due mostly to bad coding and trying very hard to create something wonderful, yet managing to get a lot of stuff very wrong in lots of ways.

I wouldn't presume 'bad coding'. To me it looks more like a resource management issue - either insufficient resources to deliver on the expected schedule, or what resources they have have been managed badly. The latter is a distinct possibility given the prevalence of home-office; I've seen development teams effectively go feral after a few months with poor supervision. But I wouldn't presume 'bad coding' per say - all code is flawed on the first write, which is why you have code review processes, unit tests and QA teams to go through your work. If bad code is getting through, it's because this process has been truncated in the interests of a speedy release.

 

[Rat Catcher]

And you heard FDev specifically saying we were only going to get an incomplete release.

Did anyone else hear this?
If a link could be provided, I'd be interested in reading it.

 

[[VR] James Constantine]

Did anyone else hear this?
If a link could be provided, I'd be interested in reading it.

Apparantly we have to trust him on this.

 

[WaveRider]

Then you're very lucky. Or lying. For the vast majority it is breaking down every six miles.

Are you suggesting I or the vast majority who are unhappy with this release are 'losing it'? It appears that your definition of losing it is any complaint at all.

Yes, and it's working fine for you. And you heard FDev specifically saying we were only going to get an incomplete release. And you privately witnessed David Braben turn water into wine.

Yes, I'm lucky, I've said as much, but as some others are saying they have had minimal issues too, so I guess I'm not alone.


Nice try, I stated 'you seem to want me to lose it'. I also believe I said 'I can understand why many are angry and frustrated'. So no, my definition of losing it isn't any complaint (can you quote where I said those words?).


No, its not working fine for me, I have said I had minor issues - I just didn't see a reason to go all Game of Thrones 'shame!' and flog the Devs through the streets (and I even apologised for the dramatic use of wording I used in the artistic licence and phraseology).

And again you substitute what I said with what you think will support your pov better. But that's ok, if you have to do that then that only strengthens the fact you have to change words to try and succeed in accomplishing whatever you're trying to accomplish. However, I said that they expected there to be issues with a big change like this (or similar wording) and that they apologised and hoped the player base will help in reporting the issues they are having. That sounds nothing like 'You will get an incomplete release' - but you are well aware of this.

No, I don't believe I said that either, but as you are in the realm of substituting what you wish to I guess it doesn't really matter does it?



And yet despite all the misquoting and (maybe?) poor attempts at trying to spread negative vibes in my general direction - know I still sympathise with you and I genuinely hope the issues you are having with the game get sorted as soon as possible.

Got to get some sleep now, night all.

 

[NotARealName]

You are 100% right, uninstall and leave.


Yes, lucky me, that's what I've been saying.

And if you actually read what I have been saying then you would know that I have been saying people have had it worse than me and I feel sorry for them. But I guess you've been wrapped up in 'you', so it could be said the discussion never started.

But he didn't I'm guessing - so it does seem as though people are getting varying degrees of issues doesn't it.

You are being toxic and must stop harassing the other users into uninstalling the game. You should know that this behaviour is unacceptable and goes against the rules

 

[Eben Sheti'ya]

I took Five PUSH to The Engineer and just carrying the stuff effected my vision. If five Push has this effect I can see why she wants the stuff so bad. Thoughts anybody?

 

[NotARealName]

I took Five PUSH to The Engineer and just carrying the stuff effected my vision. If five Push has this effect I can see why she wants the stuff so bad. Thoughts anybody?
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[Mogen Teras]

I'm just getting the Orange Sidewinder issue EVERY SINGLE TIME I try and play. This has been going on since midday yesterday. Very hacked off now FDev, would anyone care to comment?

tumbleweed

But didnt you hear Braben? It works fine on his home PC!

 

[X8785]

I feel Elite is of high quality. I think what they are trying to create takes time and tweaking. At the same time I realize everything I believe I JUST discovered had been in game since launch. So ask yourself... Why so serious!? Let them work jeez!!!
(Me looking at the negative comments in this thread)

 

[MacIntoc]

Thx for your kind

 

[KCderek]

I'm still getting the maude adder and scarlet krait errors. Anybody got a fix for this? I haven't been able to play for four days.

 

[NotARealName]

Thx for your kind

O7

 

[NotARealName]

I'm still getting the maude adder and scarlet krait errors. Anybody got a fix for this? I haven't been able to play for four days.

I got a friend that had a similar problem. Did you happen to be disconnected while on an atmospheric planet?

 

[WaveRider]

You are being toxic and must stop harassing the other users into uninstalling the game. You should know that this behaviour is unacceptable and goes against the rules

Disagreeing with someone is not being toxic. Informing someone if their situation is so bad, and they have such disdain towards a company, that they have the ability to uninstall the game, is not harassing. In fact I have done nothing but agree that each person has the right to express their annoyance and frustration.

If you read the dialogue I have had with individuals here, what has been obvious is where I am happy to accept the way they feel about the game - they are unable to accept the way I do.


However, having seen your post and how it has obviously affected you, and the fact @MacIntoc has upvoted that post - I am quite happy to openly apologise if I hurt anyone's feelings. @MacIntoc I am sorry if you thought I was being mean sympathising with you over all the posts I have and telling you if you are that annoyed you have the ultimate ability to walk away. I should have been even more sympathetic towards you. <O

However, having always stated that I am sorry for what has happened to some, I'm afraid being sympathetic does not change the fact that I am happy with my experience in game.

Apologies to any Moderators - I will change the wording in my post so no one can be offended (NotARealNames quote will still show my original statement, but I feel that will give context for my apology). <O

 

[WaveRider]

Did anyone else hear this?
If a link could be provided, I'd be interested in reading it.

Unfortunately it was one of those posts where the individual inserted their own words instead of actually using the words used.

You know, to further their pov, rather than sticking to what was said as this would not make what they were posting as dramatic. <O

 

[WaveRider]

I'm not here to be pitied and I don't care about his opinions. Best to ignore him. However, trolling a forum seems to give him more pleasure than playing Odyssey (which isn't really a surprise, actually).

Please read above, I have apologised for hurting your feelings if you honestly took offence. I am happy to say sorry again if it will help - I'm sorry if you thought I was telling you to leave the game and not darken our doorstep.

However, disagreeing with you about how I should feel is not trolling. At every point I have sympathised and said you have every right to feel the way you do. My last post was actually meant to indicate you could walk away from the game if you were so annoyed, but I understand that it was taken differently.

However, as you have every right to feel the way you do, I also have the right to do the same.

And I am happy with what Odyssey has given me and what is still to come, but then I have not had the issues you have. <O

 

[Sir.Tj]

Everyone is entitled to voice their views and opinions, as long as they adhere to the forum rules then they are welcome to post.

Attacks on other forum members, devs and maybe even little old me (not my fault) are not welcome and will be dealt with accordingly.

Thanks all.

 

[Northpin]

Since yersterday evening, geting Orange sidewinder at every attempt to login...
they must be pilling around me already and i'm running out of torches hope ...