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Mole HD

Mole HD
McGlashan said:
Wait, did they show something new for Squadron 42 in the last few days while I wasn't paying attention? The only aspect of what they've shown which I found amazing was how little they've achieved with so much time and money (and, more recently, how dated everything looks in light of the new Unreal Engine 5 demos).
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But how many folks currently have the PC hardware to run anything made with the Unreal 5 engine?... judging by how many complaints there are about EDO and Star Citizen running like crap as well as looking dated. You'll see exactly the same complaints when Unreal 5 engined games hit mainstream.

What about when more RTX only titles hit the stores? It could well be on the cards given that VR only titles have already broken through...There are certainly more owners of RTX graphics cards than there are VR rig owners to make such a move viable. Even current gen consoles (PS5 and Xbox series X) support native RTX and DLSS out of the box.

4A games just released a standalone RTX only PC version of Metro Exodus free to current owners of the original...which in credit to 4A games, is in a whole different league visually from the released hybrid RTX/Rasterised version from 2019, even as visually impressive as that was in it's own right.

As for Ci¬G wasting money for no result...you'll get no argument from me :D
 
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
kotaku.com

Let's Check In On Star Citizen, Shall We

Star Citizen is currently free-to-play as the game enjoys its annual Invictus Launch Week celebration. I figured now would be as good a time as ever to take a peek at the ambitious space sim and see how things are going.
kotaku.com kotaku.com

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So, was there any real purpose to this other than to pick on a project you don’t particularly like?
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Oh, look at nasty media picking on a poor little indie developer!

LOL, one guy talking up SC by comparing it to.... Dwarf Fortress! They can't be serious!
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
Sporting one of the new cosmetic paint jobs on my Herc M2...

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[VR] Merkir

[VR] Merkir
I have a theory. CIG management is maintaining the game completion percentage at approximately 10% at all times. As devs do work, slowly, management ensures the scope increases proportionally to maintain that 10% completion rate. The scope increases drive the marketing and donor frenzy.

Thus, the CIG business model is infinitely sustainable. :cool:

Edit: Changed to 10%, as Skizomeuh was probably closer to the mark. :)
 
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sovapid

sovapid
Agony_Aunt said:
kotaku.com

Let's Check In On Star Citizen, Shall We

Star Citizen is currently free-to-play as the game enjoys its annual Invictus Launch Week celebration. I figured now would be as good a time as ever to take a peek at the ambitious space sim and see how things are going.
kotaku.com kotaku.com

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Oh, look at nasty media picking on a poor little indie developer!

LOL, one guy talking up SC by comparing it to.... Dwarf Fortress! They can't be serious!
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Isn't beetwagon one of the refunds guys? odd that kotaku wouldn't mention that.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
sovapid said:
Isn't beetwagon one of the refunds guys? odd that kotaku wouldn't mention that.
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He's the admin of the refund sub.

Funny thing is, one of the faithful asked him what did he do to the config to make it look so bad, so Beet replied somewhat sarcastically that he went wild. They took it seriously and started banging on how he deliberately messed with the config to make SC look bad. As if you need to do that :D
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Viajero
[VR] Golgot said:
Oh sure, an artificially rare cosmetic, sold for a few dollars (and earnable for free via in-game play), is exaaaaactly the same as a ton of artificially rare ships getting sequential price hikes, up to $3,000, often before even existing as a thing.

Oh my, such hypocrisy. Let anyone who has played ED never cast scorn on SC’s marketing again...
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You forgot about the MkIV. Check mate.
 
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Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Viajero
Agony_Aunt said:
kotaku.com

Let's Check In On Star Citizen, Shall We

Star Citizen is currently free-to-play as the game enjoys its annual Invictus Launch Week celebration. I figured now would be as good a time as ever to take a peek at the ambitious space sim and see how things are going.
kotaku.com kotaku.com

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Oh, look at nasty media picking on a poor little indie developer!

LOL, one guy talking up SC by comparing it to.... Dwarf Fortress! They can't be serious!
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"Star Citizen is like right behind the Trump Election Defense Fund in terms of hilariously obvious scams"
 

cigwatch

cigwatch
Merkir said:
I have a theory. CIG management is maintaining the game completion percentage at approximately 50% at all times. As devs do work, slowly, management ensures the scope increases proportionally to maintain that 50% completion rate. The scope increases drive the marketing and donor frenzy.

Thus, the CIG business model is infinitely sustainable. :cool:
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List of most expensive video games to develop - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Sort descending by the last column. They are getting there.
 

GuruNot

GuruNot
Seems like SC got a mench in Tomshardware :

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Epic Optimizes Unreal Engine 5 Compilation For AMD's Threadripper CPUs

Compilation to the extreme
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
robertsspaceindustries.com

Spectrum - v7.46.3

RSI’s Spectrum is our integrated community and player interaction service, including chat, forums, game integration, and Player Organization facilities. Player Organizations (“Org”...
robertsspaceindustries.com robertsspaceindustries.com

I will be interested to see if CIG actually manage to implement this.
 

Fishy

Fishy
GuruNot said:
Seems like SC got a mench in Tomshardware :

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Epic Optimizes Unreal Engine 5 Compilation For AMD's Threadripper CPUs

Compilation to the extreme
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
robertsspaceindustries.com

Spectrum - v7.46.3

RSI’s Spectrum is our integrated community and player interaction service, including chat, forums, game integration, and Player Organization facilities. Player Organizations (“Org”...
robertsspaceindustries.com robertsspaceindustries.com

I will be interested to see if CIG actually manage to implement this.
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"will", "once the game has", "updated to", "swapped to", "in certain areas"

It's just a few weeks out basically.
 

Ronzer

Ronzer
Merkir said:
I have a theory. CIG management is maintaining the game completion percentage at approximately 50% at all times. As devs do work, slowly, management ensures the scope increases proportionally to maintain that 50% completion rate. The scope increases drive the marketing and donor frenzy.

Thus, the CIG business model is infinitely sustainable. :cool:
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That's close to how I see it. But they'll never increase what you're able to do, ever, because of reality. They have a sliding window of what's possible for their engine to handle. Last month it was that big ship. This month it's a freepass. Is that big ship there, at the same time? Probably not. They'll never be able to put more than 30% (maybe it's only 10%?) of the current game in, and have it working, so they slide that 30% around. Oh, a new patch? In this one, you can check 'insert game item' out. Oh it works! Looking forward to it all working at once? Never.Gonna.Happen.
 
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