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rootsrat

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rootsrat

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Oops... 😬
 
I haven't flown any of my ships since 3.17 either as I really can't be bothered going through the purgatory of setting up the control bindings in SC for the new Virpil hotas
I've not bothered either...
I had my controls almost right to be able to fly my one ship and then CIG did something that negated most of the settings in one of their updates a couple of years ago...
So, if you deicde you really must fly again, I'd be happy to receive a copy of your mappings file...
 
Risky post on Spectrum, bringing up ED.

So much misinformation about Elite in that thread by people who would likely not want to hear any different so as to no challenge their cope. (that's not to suggest that Elite is 100% perfect of course..)

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I'd say more feel it in your wallet.. speaking of which...

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I've already debunked this claim, as if you extrapolate a mile wide to the width of the milky way, then the game is light years deep also in proportion. Science. Anyway, I already saw the SC being 1inch wide and 1inch deep statement.. but I'd flip the Elite claim on it's head and say that for a Star Citizen player it's their wallet that's an inch wide and as many miles deep as makes Chris happy. True gaming bliss.
 
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Opinions may vary ;)
Seem both those 2 guys accounts got deleted.:unsure:
Oh I sure hope opinions may vary, considering the winds of change...
After all the resident experts opinion was that they would never go past 50-then-100 players per server...
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Or have the engine support the Idris much less have Capital ship fleet battles...
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Guess the Calders really exercised their Q1 2025 option of buying all the Idris so them too, will continue to enjoy their alpha sunshine.:)
 
As for Danny's return to Stanton, the memories from Pyro were still fresh!
New toys were acquired, new foes were met.
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Mountains explored, Views admired.
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Shiny gear looted, new ships crashed!
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Secrets unveiled , bug after bug.
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With some met expectations along with some surprises! IT was time to go back to STANTOn!
And so he did!

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rootsrat

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I don't know what it is with hard-core fan citizens still-picture story-telling. Like, it's not really fooling anyone who's not already a fan, neither is it interesting to be perfectly honest, because people are rarely Tolkiens, Simaks or Orson Scott Cards.

I don't doubt these stories sound epic in players' heads when they play, but most of non-fans know what these sessions really look like (been there done that) :D
 
I don't know what it is with hard-core fan citizens still-picture story-telling. Like, it's not really fooling anyone who's not already a fan, neither is it interesting to be perfectly honest, because people are rarely Tolkiens, Simaks or Orson Scott Cards.

I don't doubt these stories sound epic in players' heads when they play, but most of non-fans know what these sessions really look like (been there done that) :D
Fooling? Ahh loosen up. It's not like seeing some pictures is gonna force everyone to buy ships now is it? Ok then again maybe Mole :ROFLMAO:

Or what you're saying is that you don't like Danny's Adventures?
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Or you just don't like Danny having fun? Is that It? Is It? (imagine my best dirty harry impression)
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A bit disappointed if true really.
Can't say the same about the Idris though, just needed to find a way to get up there.
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Follow the signs they said, so I did.
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Not gonna lie, it was as high as impressive the size of that ship.
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Absolute Unit.
 

rootsrat

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Fooling? Ahh loosen up. It's not like seeing some pictures is gonna force everyone to buy ships now is it? Ok then again maybe Mole :ROFLMAO:

Or what you're saying is that you don't like Danny's Adventures?
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Or you just don't like Danny having fun? Is that It? Is It? (imagine my best dirty harry impression)
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A bit disappointed if true really.
Can't say the same about the Idris though, just needed to find a way to get up there.
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Follow the signs they said, so I did.
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Not gonna lie, it was as high as impressive the size of that ship.
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Absolute Unit.

After 13 years they're just exactly same screens we've already seen a gazillion of times. It's just plain boring at this stage tbh. No offence.
 
This is the real bad storytelling right here...

After all the resident experts opinion was that they would never go past 50-then-100 players per server...

Friend, who has ever said this? You really do love to chew through strawmen.

Most debate has been more about the laughable nature of CIG's '1000s of players in one area' claims, and how long it's taken them to not get there ;)

There is some current comedy to be found in the way their 10 servers / 600 player shards mean they're paying through the nose for a '60 per server' average though, while also suffering technical collapse if too many players head to one server...

Or have the engine support the Idris much less have Capital ship fleet battles...

Talking of which...


Because there's 'support in an alpha', with lots of crashes and desynch, and, this...

Alpha Of The Year either way...


And there's delivering a working game with the full feature set. And it's over the latter where the great big comedy question mark sits. Can CIG deliver a system where a fleet of $3K Javelins can seamlessly duke it out with a swarm of $1.5K Idrises, and not melt at the edge cases? When the AI turrets are whirring, and the interior poly count is swirling? (They've at least saved themselves on the NPC crew performance hit, by pushing them off into the never-never ;))

The answer is still pure nah. They can't deliver their claimed feature set to a launch standard. (They may launch it, and run off into the night. But that won't stop the servers melting. Or the feature-cuts that the launch required burning ;))

But they can certainly fool people into thinking they can in the meantime ;).

And again, if you enjoy the current alpha, that's all cool. But it still doesn't change the critiques of CIG's business model, and their resulting backwards design practices. Nor mean that others feel the same desire to alpha it up.

(It would also help if you could actually fathom what those critiques were, rather than making up variants...)
 
Fooling? Ahh loosen up. It's not like seeing some pictures is gonna force everyone to buy ships now is it? Ok then again maybe Mole :ROFLMAO:

Or what you're saying is that you don't like Danny's Adventures?
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Or you just don't like Danny having fun? Is that It? Is It? (imagine my best dirty harry impression)
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A bit disappointed if true really.
Can't say the same about the Idris though, just needed to find a way to get up there.
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Follow the signs they said, so I did.
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Not gonna lie, it was as high as impressive the size of that ship.
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Absolute Unit.
Barring $10 or $20 here and there on cosmetics like ship paints or personal armour, I haven't spent a penny of real cash on ships for at least 4 years...I do the melting and CCU shuffling thing with store credit is all :)

I used to trade on the grey market a bit buying and selling, mostly to convert stuff into store credit for my own enjoyment rather than making or losing any perceived profit. My money has been spent on SC...more than a fair bit by any standards...but it's been spent, I'm comfortable with it and I'm content to shuffle ships about with store credit without ever throwing any more cash at Ci~G. In that sense, I'm like the majority of those concierge backers who aren't really fussed about chasing magical refunds and haven't been buying spaceships with the rent money, just waiting to see what'll happen in the long run... but resigned to writing the spent cash off if it all comes to nothing 🤷‍♂️
 
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This is the real bad storytelling right here...



Friend, who has ever said this? You really do love to chew through strawmen.

Most debate has been more about the laughable nature of CIG's '1000s of players in one area' claims, and how long it's taken them to not get there ;)

There is some current comedy to be found in the way their 10 servers / 600 player shards mean they're paying through the nose for a '60 per server' average though, while also suffering technical collapse if too many players head to one server...



Talking of which...



Because there's 'support in an alpha', with lots of crashes and desynch, and, this...



And there's delivering a working game with the full feature set. And it's over the latter where the great big comedy question mark sits. Can CIG deliver a system where a fleet of $3K Javelins can seamlessly duke it out with a swarm of $1.5K Idrises, and not melt at the edge cases? When the AI turrets are whirring, and the interior poly count is swirling? (They've at least saved themselves on the NPC crew performance hit, by pushing them off into the never-never ;))

The answer is still pure nah. They can't deliver their claimed feature set to a launch standard. (They may launch it, and run off into the night. But that won't stop the servers melting. Or the feature-cuts that the launch required burning ;))

But they can certainly fool people into thinking they can in the meantime ;).

And again, if you enjoy the current alpha, that's all cool. But it still doesn't change the critiques of CIG's business model, and their resulting backwards design practices. Nor mean that others feel the same desire to alpha it up.

(It would also help if you could actually fathom what those critiques were, rather than making up variants...)

If CIG ever scale this up for a full release and to have enough stable servers to keep things playing well, I suspect their server costs are going to be astronomical.
 
If CIG ever scale this up for a full release and to have enough stable servers to keep things playing well, I suspect their server costs are going to be astronomical.

Yeah, one of the things we'll see them doing periodically (and we're essentially seeing it now) is burning $$$ to get the best performance they can. It's not sustainable at launch scales, but it works as a convincer in the short term ;)

Although the current PTU suggests even money can't buy you love...

(It's still majoring on invisible PvP kills, PES lag eating items, and just general dysfunction at the mo. Every meaningful service having a meltdown at the mission site.)
 
Fooling? Ahh loosen up. It's not like seeing some pictures is gonna force everyone to buy ships now is it? Ok then again maybe Mole :ROFLMAO:

Or what you're saying is that you don't like Danny's Adventures?
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Or you just don't like Danny having fun? Is that It? Is It? (imagine my best dirty harry impression)
iC2tsf4.jpeg

A bit disappointed if true really.
Can't say the same about the Idris though, just needed to find a way to get up there.
qRcBOch.jpeg

Follow the signs they said, so I did.
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Not gonna lie, it was as high as impressive the size of that ship.
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Absolute Unit.
All I see is a gold plated turd that's been left out nine years past its flush date.
 
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