Has the hysteria died down yet?

[Cmdr Travers]

In any case, to lash out at what people perceive to be an injustice is normal. Let them vent and let out steam (lol) for a while and things will slowly die down.

I mean, you do know the 5 stages of grief yes? We're still at the anger phase now.

The only problem is that after all the issues and sorted and things will have settled down, the vast majority of those negative reviews will still be there, with Frontier unable to have recourse that hurts both the game and the current player base.

 

[NotBiffle]

I'm not defending Frontier, I just think that if something is clearly broken, that's not the time to post a review.

I would argue that is exactly the time to post a review if it was sold as a finished product, which it clearly is not.

 

[St0rmFury]

The only problem is that after all the issues and sorted and things will have settled down, the vast majority of those negative reviews will still be there, with Frontier unable to have recourse that hurts both the game and the current player base.

As they say, prevention is better than cure. Frontier brought it on themselves. Elite Dangerous isn't a new game and this isn't Frontier's first rodeo.

 

[DoctorDanny]

The only problem is that after all the issues and sorted and things will have settled down, the vast majority of those negative reviews will still be there, with Frontier unable to have recourse that hurts both the game and the current player base.

But it also warns potential customers that this company tends to release unfinished products. And tbh elite so far has a history of really bad update releases. If fd wants better reviews they should release better products.

 

[Sighman]

I did seven power restore/prepare missions in a row last night. Unlike Elite Dangerous ship-based missions (say, bounty hunting a wanted criminal or scooping black boxes) every single one played out differently, and was engaging in its own way.

Some had scavs when I got there, while others were deserted.
Some were in pitch darkness, others were in blazing sunshine.
Some were simple in-and-out, while others had blazing fires.
With some of them, everything was smooth until a bunch of scavs dropped in as I was leaving, cutting me off from my ship.
With a couple, I triggered the settlement defences and had to go back and take them offline before I could leave safely.
Some of the bases were tiny outposts. Some were sprawling locations with many buildings. One had a single building covering the entire complex. One was perched on a huge hill.

No joke, I must have spent 45-60 mins at each base on average, and most of the time I felt like a combination of James Bond, Douglas Quaid and Inspector Clouseau.

 

[Stanis]

Yes you are right, the majority are stupid, and those who are not of the same opinion as us too .. It is sad but it is like that.

 

[BlackMaze]

I think you have no right to tell anyone that purchases a product what they should or should not expect from it.

Personally when I purchased the next DLC to Elite: Dangerous I expected a finished product. The fact that we did not receive this deserves some backlash.

That is not to say that I don't have full confidence in FDEV for fixing their [beep]

 

[galahad2069]

I'm not defending Frontier, I just think that if something is clearly broken, that's not the time to post a review.

It's time to post a review if the game is released.
If it's clearly broken, that's not the time to release it.

 

[gooddoc]

Chill out everyone .. its a sunny day for a change

Don't know where you're living cmdr but here it's overcast & warm...........mind you, it is Lancashire

 

[Cmdr Travers]

I would argue that is exactly the time to post a review if it was sold as a finished product, which it clearly is not.

But you know it's not going to stay that way for very long and that it's going to change, so it's very much NOT the time to post a review. A few weeks in, yes, but not in the first 24 hours. That just takes me back to the point about these people being selfish and childish.

 

[ULITE]

A lot of the people defending it have played more than a few hours, but for whatever reason are willing to overlook the glaring issues with it.

I know, I was also defending it a lot, my friends always called me a big fanboy of this game, and I admit, I am ... was one. Now I am utterly disappointed. The cherry on top was the fact that I couldn't play the game the last two days because of the steam launcher problem. They are not even testing their product before they smack it out. It is not the fps alone, it is playable with 30fps, but it is the lack of other things, bugs that are well known in the past but are ignored, the loveless designed missions, the lack of lore, what they did with exploration ... the last two things are the main reason I loved the game for... and so on.

 

[GloatingSwine]

It's not fixed yet, so until it is I see no reason to roll over and accept the state of it.

The big priorities should be fixing the on-foot performance and fixing the godawful UI changes which have made almost every interaction in the game take more inputs to achieve and provide less information.

Things that weren't broken got "fixed" in ways that don't even align with the major objectives of the update because it's now much more fiddly to plot a route to a site within a star system from the galaxy map. You know, the thing Odyssey is all about.


And it's everywhere too. Like I did a powerplay drop and the process of collecting merits to deliver used to be bad, but they've found a way to make it worse because now the game forgets the cursor position when you pay for your next quota, meaning more clicks to navigate back to that part of the screen, and it bounces out of the powerplay contact completely in between every collection.

How do you get that so wrong.

Likewise there's now no way to use a bookmark to a body within a system to directly plot a route to that body. Select the bookmark and the galaxy map just focuses the system, there's no "plot a route to this bookmark" option. You know, the thing bookmarks are for. You have to select the system, nagivate down to the system map button which is third from bottom despite being one of the most commonly used options and the one that aligns most with Odyssey content, load the system map, select the thing you bookmarked, and then plot a route.

How do you get that so wrong!

 

[Bug80]

I was referring to the barrage of Steam reviews all saying the game was s*** when they ought to have known the current state of Odyssey wasn't what it was meant, or going to be. People should know you post reviews of a finished game, as they're very unlikely to change those reviews later.

I am sorry but no. FDEV promised multiple times in live streams that the release would be "greatly optimized" compared to the alpha. So people bought it, including me, thinking that it would run on their system. Turns out it did not.

So either FDEV were lying or they did not test thoroughly and were surprised as well. Both scenarios are wrong and deserve bad reviews.

 

[CMDR VR]

I'm not defending Frontier, I just think that if something is clearly broken, that's not the time to post a review.

I waited and tought about how to articulate this post whitout making it sound like a personal attack and i failed.

So i will just say this, your reasoning does not make much sense, unless you have interests in defending the company that sold a 40$ alpha to people while lieing multiple times.

Or if you dont have any Interest, lets say that you dont sound like the smartest consumer ever

 

[Cmdr. Numa]

Humans are all about first impressions. Once those are locked in, people are very hard to sway the other way.

 

[Rubbernuke]

EDO is an over-priced and unimaginative expansion that does not build on the core game at all. It sits besides it, like an awkward date wanting to do something but never really getting there. With two years, a whole dollop of devs and alpha testing it should have been a triumph re-invigorating the whole game, tying all the disparate features from the last six years. Instead its a massive let-down that just compounds problems and repeats past mistakes, along with adding things that did not need radical change.

 

[DoctorDanny]

EDO is an over-priced and unimaginative expansion that does not build on the core game at all. It sits besides it, like an awkward date wanting to do something but never really getting there. With two years, a whole dollop of devs and alpha testing it should have been a triumph re-invigorating the whole game, tying all the disparate features from the last six years. Instead its a massive let-down that just compounds problems and repeats past mistakes, along with adding things that did not need radical change.

Indeed, they took two years, with allegedly a hundred people working on it.

 

[Cmdr Travers]

I waited and tought about how to articulate this post whitout making it sound like a personal attack and i failed.

So i will just say this, your reasoning does not make much sense, unless you have interests in defending the company that sold a 40$ alpha to people while lieing multiple times.

Or if you dont have any Interest, lets say that you dont sound like the smartest consumer ever

I'm just realistic and pragmatic. I've seen FAR TOO MANY software launches over the years that have been borked to be surprised by this.

 

[ULITE]

I have played it, but I'm one of the lucky ones who's had no real issues.

Are you sure? Have you done some exploration and searched for plants? Because that should open your eyes. A very good example is the minigame that they just removed instead of making something. You should also take a look in the Codex, is there something new in it? Who the hell is frontline for example.

I'm just disheartened by the fact that people have to post their immediate reaction as reviews of the game, less than two or three days after release.

I did not want to make a review after I had at least 30h in the new DLC, but it seems like I am doing it now ... another nail in the coffin.

 

[VR StarLightPL]

I'm not defending Frontier, I just think that if something is clearly broken, that's not the time to post a review.

It was also not the time to release an unfinished product to reap end of Fiscal Year numbers based on a lie that "It will run just like Horizons" and that "hardware requirements didn't change" and last but not least "It's alpha build, main build is optimized and ready to go". QFM.

Maybe Frontier's problem was not highlighing that ED & EDO is a work in progress & not the finished article by a long way.

Especially that Early Access on Steam is a thing for a few years now, it is widely accepted and people generally go along with it. Plus it is usually discounted to account the fact that it is unfinished. That way everyone's happy (well, maybe except the shareholders), and both devs and gamers can enjoy the release, bugs warts and all.