I think it would be more becoming of you to go back and reword your original post OP and take out the bits where you are using derogatory language towards others, i think you can see by now on reflection that those kind of name calling tactics are unwaranted here. Thanks
Has the hysteria died down yet?
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I liked it very much, it mostly run w/o problems on my 1080ti back then. Graphically it wasn't as good as a 4k 2d image but the feeling of being on another planet was... (indescribable joy noises). That's why I want VR space legs so badly in ED. Also had drops on foot in some weird places, the engine still has some problems. Which reminds me I need to revisit it
The flight part however was bad and reprojecting like crazy, and for an unprepared version was puketown all over. Btw. I wonder if you can finally zoom your scanner in VR.PS: My friend however had stuttery mess on foot on almost the same hardware with a slightly worse CPU.
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Then it's not a time to release it.
Frontier are in the frame because they are responsible regardless of any over the top reaction.
The thread title should be different then. THE "hysteria" consists for 99% out of people that believe FDEV will indeed try to fix the problems as soon as possible, but that it should not have been released as-is and certainly not advertised as "release".
As someone making YT videos from time to time I can tell you these things take more time than you give them credit for
It was an odd introduction - initially PCVR was very good, but stuttering, a bit of winding down made it more reliable, but at the cost of lack of sharpness. Criticisms aside, the implementation is fine, certainly at least as good as a few of the 'dedicated' VR titles I have!I liked it very much, it mostly run w/o problems on my 1080ti back then. Graphically it wasn't as good as a 4k 2d image but the feeling of being on another planet was... (indescribable joy noises). That's why I want VR space legs so badly in ED. Also had drops on foot in some weird places, the engine still has some problems. Which reminds me I need to revisit it
(But still, HL: Alyx holds the crown currently!)I shall have to go back and check scanner zoom in VR now, grrr!
If I'm translating this correctly, you are suggesting I hold off buying Odyssey, which normally I would totally agree with. However, I'm currently not playing Horizons, so I would buy Odyssey fully aware that I'm buying a beta / Early Access product and treat it accordingly. This includes adding my own troubleshooting and modding expertise to hopefully make it better.
Also, I wouldn't be spending MY money on it
LOL this is a fair point, I am still full monkaS when i see the dreaded orange dot in my task bar and start to wonder which of my drivers this update is going to break. Its usually my sound card.And everybody playing Odyssey is doing so on Windows
The difference is that Microsoft has such a dominant market share, especially if you include all those desktops/laptops that are used at work, that they are a lot more resilient to this sort of thing than a mid sized software developer/publisher. Theirs is more of a sellers market, whereas Frontier are very much in a buyers market.
I hope it does get fixed, I am confident most of it will. I have had this game installed on my machine for almost 7 years now, no other game even comes close by a wide margin. It's the deception that rubs me the wrong way.
I am rolling my eyes whilst reading thisI have to say though I was rolling my eyes throughout the first few days. The reaction, and especially the reviews posted by people on Steam really do demonstrate how unbelievably stupid people can be. I mean, I sometimes wonder how people this thick are able to stand upright and feed themselves
But no, this is just what Odyssey was and clearly it was never going to be fixed, and so the thick gobby brigade posted their reviews and messages. It's quite pathetic really. Has it died down yet, as I very quickly switched off so I could read something intelligent instead
Odyssey was labelled as completed and sold as so, the reaction is a principal reaction against being lied too, of course negativity will ensue from this regardless.
Wouldn't call it hysteria by any means, more so disappointment, a natural emotion, people are human after all?
Of course FDEV will fix Odyssey in time, have no doubt about that but to not expect a backlash on a release as dire as this one, you've just raised the stupidity level by one?
Oh I was mocking the famous /r/wallstreetbets controversy, where a bunch of nerds used reddit nerdrage to balloon GameStop stock price to the moon (almost), plus got incredibly rich in the process, and the head nerd got even a hearing in Congress. Plus it unveiled how incredibly rigged and corrupt the stock exchange is (as if that was news). Google GAMESTONK if you want to know more.If I'm translating this correctly, you are suggesting I hold off buying Odyssey, which normally I would totally agree with. However, I'm currently not playing Horizons, so I would buy Odyssey fully aware that I'm buying a beta / Early Access product and treat it accordingly. This includes adding my own troubleshooting and modding expertise to hopefully make it better.
Also, I wouldn't be spending MY money on it
As for the rest - FDev doesn't care where your money comes from, sadly. It's a matter of not rewarding a bad doggo, but of course you're free to do with your money what you want. Enjoy
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Congrats OP, you are a shining example of respect and fair play!
The game had serious and objective issues, so all complaints were rightful.
Acting like a White Knight doesn't put you in the position to judge people like this.
If you're not happy with the forum "negativity" feel free to come back later when the game is in better conditions and positive threads shine again.
I know right! The words used and the disrespect completely negates his opinion after that. Not a nice way to discusss with your fellow man in my eyes.
Or rather we're back to the usual bickering of "Open only X", "Crime and Punishment", "Bring back the ADS" etc. etc.
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You can't review a future product. You can only review what you have. They were told it was a finished product, paid for a finished product, and received a broken mess. They rightfully wrote a negative review.
If it gets better in the future, and people start writing positive reviews, Steam's recent review system will reflect that.
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I'm in Florida. It's may it's sunny and hot, and will be until around Christmas.Don't know where you're living cmdr but here it's overcast & warm...........mind you, it is Lancashire
If you sit around saying "Guys.. everything will be fine in the future" while it's quite clearly not you get into some sort of weird Star Citizen sunk cost endeavor.. and companies will abuse that trust.
What's so wrong with people feeling offended? People have no implicit right to not be offended. I see absolutely no issue with the people responsible for the planetary tech being told they did a bad job - if they feel offended, so what?
Here are some things that are offensive: the casual LYING from FDEV about the state of the game pre-release, the clear bait-&-switch from the supposedly "in-game footage" in the trailer video compared to what we actually received, the poor state of literally everything in the game, the fact that FDEV knew the game wasn't finished but decided to call it finished, charge people full price for it and take their money with the attitude that they'd get around to fixing it later.
As much as this entire release screams "management screw-up", managers don't make tech decisions, tech leads do, and this planetary tech is a jump backward from what we have in Horizons, so whoever is responsible for that decision screwed up, and they deserve to hear it.
Frontier called it a finished game when they released it. Of course they also lied during the alpha that they had a polished code branch ready to go on release day and they took money while propagating that lie. In any other industry they would likely be facing criminal charges for such deceitful marketing and for such a broken product.
The people who bought odyssey likely believed those lies.
If frontier said it was finished, im going to believe them and take what they produced as their best effort, not use my imagination to make it all better.
That argument might have legs if it had not been undercut by FDEV themselves claiming that the build was actually much further along than it was. That was a lie. People bought the game based on hearing things like that, which I'm pretty sure, combined with the trailer claiming "in game footage" showing realistic craggy cliffs, blue skies, beautiful lighting effects, all labelled as, "in-game footage" is probably bordering on deceptive advertising.
I think a lot of what is broken in ODYSSEY can be fixed - the absolutely abysmal UI, the performance issues (which FDEV is still trying to pass off as some sort of puzzling bug despite there being clear evidence they simply aren't culling their pipeline), the bad AI, the bad ragdoll physics, the bullet-sponge NPCs, the weird lighting, the strange graphical artefacts, and so on).
My concern is that the planetary tech is clearly a MASSIVE step backward and doesn't appear capable of producing the realistic landscapes we had in HORIZONS - the worlds are bland, colourless, featureless, and flat with craggy outcrops replaced with rounded bumps and look like something from 2005. I don't see this being fixed at all, and that means the game has lost a core piece of functionality and is entirely ruined for explorers, like me, who like to go out into the black and look for interesting planets.
I genuinely believed them when they said they had a more developed trunk than what we saw in Alpha.. that was a lie. In some ways Alpha was actually more developed than what we got in full release. Some features added in Alpha were not there in release and graphics and optimisation were working marginally better in Alpha. It's hard to say it but what they told us was not true it seems