I quoted the relavent sections for you. If you didn't intend to convey forums are for negativity as opposed to for everyone who want to talk about the game, cool I agree.
On my seeming constant disconnect with "The Forum"
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I quoted the relavent sections for you. If you didn't intend to convey forums are for negativity as opposed to for everyone who want to talk about the game, cool I agree.
Horizons runs great on my machine.
Odyssey runs terrible, with lowered settings.
And according to a post by Braben it seems like they aren't really sure why so people are getting such poor performance, almost as if they aren't aware that occlusion culling is a thing. He said he can run Odyssey just fine on an older machine, which I think is bull.
Runs just fine on my machine which is also several years old, so....
You think whatever you wish.
Ignore the few comments scattered over the forum from players using old hardware and having acceptable performance.
I mean, according to the forum my 2080S is twice as fast as as 3090 playing Odyssey
There are lots of older equipment that runs Horizons just fine and meets Odyssey recommended specs. There is also a great deal of variations.
I would certainly hope FD tests on a variety of different older machines... from Braben's comment I get the impression maybe not(?). Doesn't FDev have a variety of testing equipment? A sample of one that works just fine isn't a great statistical sample. Braben's comment would sound more convincing if he said "FD's testing facility of over 200 older model used PCs meeting the recommended specs had excellent results. We are looking into why many customers aren't having the same success".
But instead he said he went home to check it on his older home computer (?).
According to the forum my 2080S is twice as fast as a 3090
According to some players here their older spec machines are working well enough for them to play Odyssey.
Yet I don't think anyone on the forum is saying that Odyssey performs as well as Horizons, quite the opposite.
Odyssey needs work, but is still playable for me and others - what more can I say? Should I be foaming at the mouth because a game isn't behaving as it should, or just making the most of it whilst waiting for it to get fixed?
I agree it shouldn't have released in its current state, it did, I can play it, it will improve... That is it really.
Indeed. Specs and stats are all over the place. We are at the point where people are loading up Elite Dangerous Oddessy on their Atari 2600's and getting 100+ FPS while others are loading up Oddessy into Skynet/Data's Brain/IBM Watson etc, and getting like 15 FPS. 
You can foam at the mouth I suppose. I'm just responding to a post.
You can also do what I did and not even install the live version and just stick with Horizons until they fix the build. It's not like I'm on for more than a few hours total in a week anyway.According to the forum my 2080S is twice as fast as a 3090
According to some players here their older spec machines are working well enough for them to play Odyssey.
Yet I don't think anyone on the forum is saying that Odyssey performs as well as Horizons, quite the opposite.
Odyssey needs work, but is still playable for me and others - what more can I say? Should I be foaming at the mouth because a game isn't behaving as it should, or just making the most of it whilst waiting for it to get fixed?
I agree it shouldn't have released in its current state, it did, I can play it, it will improve... That is it really.
If only to revisit all your favourite haunts before the merge wipes em out.
I'll stick with Odyssey for my 2 active accounts, it has attractions enough.
Acceptable is highly subjective. Some people are ok with 30fpos, other with even less. By their own admission. Most are not until it's at least 60, some if it's not higher. That's why we use FPS, that's obejctive, 30fps will always be 30fps, no matter who watch.You think whatever you wish.
Ignore the few comments scattered over the forum from players using old hardware and having acceptable performance.
I mean, according to the forum my 2080S is twice as fast as as 3090 playing Odyssey
For myself, below 30 is bad to unplayable. For a fps, I want 60 fps minimum. Everything above is mostly eye candy to me.
Stations / Settlements are still dropping to 40-50 (in 4K) with custom high settings. If I want to play in a CZ I'll drop to 1440 and get around 55 FPS (although I've not checked today, I'll look again tomorrow) which is useable if not optimum.
Anywhere else doesn't appear to be too demanding (probably as there is little to load up the GPU) so 60+ is pretty normal. Horizons is around 50% better, in custom Ultra at the same 4K I normally play.
Despite 'fond memories' of getting games to run at 30 FPS back in the 'good old days' I still prefer at least double that thse days
I'm with you, I've been having nothing but fun with everything from xenobiology and exploration to missions and combat. Yeah there's bugs I'm not pretending there isn't, but the UI changes aren't as bad as people make it out to be, planets are still proc-genned even if people say they aren't, and overall the new content has been fun to engage with for me.
I understand if the framerates are having problems right now and there's bugs, but it's not the end of the world and there's no need to be dooming and glooming in every thread.
Sure they do! At the core is the basic idea of:
1) A product exists (not necessarily accessible) that the consumer desires
2) Said product is priced such that consumer will purchase.
...and that's it. Fun fact, rule #1 of Economics is People are Dumb.
(Literally, look it up)
All that matters is that the product exists and is priced to be purchased. The state of that existence can be as concrete as an ice-cream to as ethereal as NFT's (which are outrageously stupid, but, hey...remember rule #1). All that matters is that what is being sold - in the case of preorders, promise of delivery of a product - is priced such a consumer deems it worthy of purchase.
Preorders aren't bad, per se. They are just rarely justified for most people today. Prior to Day 1 digital downloads (which are nearly pointless given nothing launches well on Day 1), preorders made a lot of sense for high-demand physical copies. And still do for people who still buy physical (for whatever reason they choose).
But for online games, like Elite? Preorders rarely seem sensible...unless part of the 'pitch' of the product is preemptive support of the company. Which many on this forum quote as part of their decision process. They don't just want the actual product of EDO (or, rather, what FDev said they'd deliver in EDO)...they also want to support FDev via a show of faith in preordering.
If you don't care about that 'show of faith/support'...(I don't, and I guess you don't either)...
Then preorders make no sense to us. Part 1 of that consumerism isn't fulfilled. The product isn't desirable at this time. But if what you desire is the promise of that product - and the $40 pricetag fits your budget (which, for most, it does) - then the preorder makes perfect sense. As I said...the minute conumers start caring what other consumers think, it all devolves into politics.
For me it was the closed Beta, though I like Fdev and Elite enough to throw money at them regularly.
Yet the promise you mention can be obtained free of charge. Obtaining it in exchange for money still doesn't make sense from the perspective of consumerism.
This leaves is with the "show of faith" which is arguably destructive when misplaced and in no way concurrent with consumerism either.
I think that's how I'll be spending the next 6 months. One last journey around he bubble and the galaxy, visiting some sights I came to enjoy and fall in love with elite over, before they're gone forever.
sigh