I red the first 2 sites of this thread. January, 21. I dont know if i must cry or laugh. I think booth. What the...happened? Lol
ANNOUNCEMENT Odyssey Update 2021
- Thread starter Arthur Tolmie
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Saw this train wreck coming a whole star system away the moment they delayed it. All those console fan boys that jumped on me are DEAD SILENT you'll notice. People need to keep their pie holes shut about stuff they know nothing about, with their almost ten year old ancient hardware.
why didnt you push back the PC release ? Planetary lighting and topography are broken and a clear downgrade compared to horizons. Mission board , galaxy map and outfitting has clearly been designed by someone who had NO IDEA what he was doing and never played the game before . since you were asking for feedback on that : roll back to horizons menus and never touch them again . (also worked better with controller than your newly "controller optimized" version) . There is effectively no "PvP" . beside the fact ground combat is insultingly underdeveloped for a "selling feature" and broken by the fact performance optimisation didnt happen and you still use P2P .Not having ANY gamemodes beside PvE domination , NO matchmaking at all .. come on FDEV.. how are the chances 20m players randomly join the same combat zone on the same planet , the same system at the same time from around the same distance , do not fall asleep during the HORRID taxi flight, and then meet at a groundbattle that isnt already about to end ? thats INSULTINGLY bad game design . You could have made this a fun PvPvE game with proper matchmaking , at least basic gamemodes like KotH or CTF in addition to the domination mode changing randomly for every combat cycle / settlement you just didnt put in the work ! And dont start talking about realism when you alreaedy have "holo presence" in the game -.- . Also how can a developer thats supposedly good at random generated environments not capeable of creating a few different segments of station interior / tilesets / colorations so that every station looks different / changes according to the state of the system ? thats embarassing dont you think ? The list just goes on and on... your Addon is UNFINISHED AND BROKEN . You LIED to sell it and expected everyone to accept "just another broeken on relase game" . get a grip ! You wont be having a No Mans sky redemption story , you broke your community .. first by splitting odyssey and horizons players and then by making exploration pointless since the lacluster state of the tech as well as the overall state of the DLC lets everyone know you didnt emplement anything "new" (alien structures , walking thargoids guardian stuff etc) to find out there . you didnt even manage to deliver the stuff in plain sight , who are you trying to fool here ? you just broke what little "sights" there were there in horizons and there is no "story" besides hauling stuff from one community goal to another rn. you fools really killed every reason to play the game .
Waiting to see what Starfield has to offer. Its our only hope at this point. And, just in case someone brings it up, NO, I am not putting my faith in Bethesda to release a finished product that isn't riddled with bugs and glitches. My trust is in Microsoft, because trust and believe they are NOT going to allow Bethesda to release a pile of hot kangaroo feces in their name. They never have, so they ain't about to start tolerating it now with Bethesda. Say what you want about Microsoft, but at least they know how to make a damn game that isn't plagued with bugs, glitches, network issues, crashes, micro-stuttering, bad frame rate etc. Go to ANY PC website like Linus Tech Tips and 99% of the time the people coming there with problems ain't because of a Microsoft IP. Hell, Forza Horizon 4, the one Microsoft title I have on PC, gave me the LEAST amount of issues compared to games from other companies. I can't remember the last time I even had an issue with it. So this is EXACTLY why Bethesda being under their wing was the best thing that could have happened to them. No investor or stock holder strong arms them into rushing games out. They take their time, and you'll get it when its ready. Can you say the same about the vast majority of these other companies? Of course not. 
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Quite a few good points made here especially about oddity real beta status
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ygjaa4dIU
Can I pass on the question to the developers:
When will they clean up the mess with the new engineers?
forums.frontier.co.uk
When will they clean up the mess with the new engineers?
Engineers - New Engineer
I completed 12 ground Conflict Zones, raised the rank of mercenary, but access to the new engineer that requires 10 conflict zones and was not given. Why?
i went to the engineer with 5. every single text says its 5...but the progress bar lists 15. so 15 it is.
i think Domino Green says that she wants 15 Push, yet it is only 5 that she needs.
the requirements are simply completely broken, and we are lucky that we can unlock the ones we have now.
you cant unlock Yarden Bond because Smear Campaigns dont seem to exist.
you cant unlock Terra Velasquez because the Heist Missions are not counted.
you cant unlock Oden Geiger because you cant unlock Terra Velasquez.
and even those that work, dont really work.
40 Opinion Polls for Kit Fowler? Way too much.
100LY Taxi for Domino Green? For some it is 50, some need more than 100 ...
Jude Navarro? For some the Missions are not counted
Wellington Beck? 20 Multimedia Entertainment, 20 Classic Entertainment, 20 Cat Media. And it seems like he wants all of that. Again, way too much.
Hero Ferrari? You noticed that yourself.
Its a mess.
i think Domino Green says that she wants 15 Push, yet it is only 5 that she needs.
the requirements are simply completely broken, and we are lucky that we can unlock the ones we have now.
you cant unlock Yarden Bond because Smear Campaigns dont seem to exist.
you cant unlock Terra Velasquez because the Heist Missions are not counted.
you cant unlock Oden Geiger because you cant unlock Terra Velasquez.
and even those that work, dont really work.
40 Opinion Polls for Kit Fowler? Way too much.
100LY Taxi for Domino Green? For some it is 50, some need more than 100 ...
Jude Navarro? For some the Missions are not counted
Wellington Beck? 20 Multimedia Entertainment, 20 Classic Entertainment, 20 Cat Media. And it seems like he wants all of that. Again, way too much.
Hero Ferrari? You noticed that yourself.
Its a mess.
Can I pass on the question to the developers:
When will they clean up the mess with the new engineers?
Engineers - New Engineer
I completed 12 ground Conflict Zones, raised the rank of mercenary, but access to the new engineer that requires 10 conflict zones and was not given. Why?i went to the engineer with 5. every single text says its 5...but the progress bar lists 15. so 15 it is.
i think Domino Green says that she wants 15 Push, yet it is only 5 that she needs.
the requirements are simply completely broken, and we are lucky that we can unlock the ones we have now.
you cant unlock Yarden Bond because Smear Campaigns dont seem to exist.
you cant unlock Terra Velasquez because the Heist Missions are not counted.
you cant unlock Oden Geiger because you cant unlock Terra Velasquez.
and even those that work, dont really work.
40 Opinion Polls for Kit Fowler? Way too much.
100LY Taxi for Domino Green? For some it is 50, some need more than 100 ...
Jude Navarro? For some the Missions are not counted
Wellington Beck? 20 Multimedia Entertainment, 20 Classic Entertainment, 20 Cat Media. And it seems like he wants all of that. Again, way too much.
Hero Ferrari? You noticed that yourself.
Its a mess.
I wouldn't mind if they gave engineers the powerplay treatment and just left it as-is ...unfinished and basically never speak about them again.
engineers are a game breaking 'feature" when they work. So them being broken is actually a less broken game then them destroying any semblance of balance in the game.
Did I understand YOU correctly? Do you propose to remove ALL engineering modifications on ships and equipment on ships?
god i wish. Engineers do nothing but ruin ship / module balance and now suit / weapon balance. Add in magic effects and you've screwed the game up to unrecognizable levels.
Instead of what engineers have done, a better option would have been ship variants (where you trade in a core charge of the stock ship and a bunch of materials and get a variant) - since that would allow fdev to control how those fit amongst the existing ships (no change to modules) and no rebuy on the variant (your rebuy would be a stock version). and I woudn't introduce engineers on foot stuff until foot stuff stock things have enough time to be properly balanced so that I had enough data to tell how to setup the engineered variants of the suits (no modified weapons) . Think bio-mods to you or your suit. This creates far fewer combinations and makes it much more sane to balance.
It used to be that all modifications were individual and it was hard to make a balance. Now ship modifications have been reworked into a fixed value and it's easy enough to balance everything.
Example : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/shield-and-shield-booster.549175/
But that's not what I'm interested in now, I want to play Odyssey, but I keep running into logical problems.
Defeated in the ZC zones and thought I would now get suit modifications for combat from the engineer. But it turned out this engineer does not do battle suit modifications and this makes another
All Frontier Developments was interested in was to launch the game prior to their end of year financials to satisfy their investors.
Steam is now showing the game as Early Access, which means they consider it as not in a fit state to play but may improve over time. How much time FDEV will put into fixing it is another matter. They have grabbed our money and they are going keeping it.
The only way that we the playerbase can keep the pressure on, to ensure frequent fixes to Odyssey, is to STOP BUYING PAINT JOBS, SHIP KITS AND OTHER COSMETIC INCIDENTALS until we see the game is in a fit and stable state of play for trading, combat and exploration.
Steam is now showing the game as Early Access, which means they consider it as not in a fit state to play but may improve over time. How much time FDEV will put into fixing it is another matter. They have grabbed our money and they are going keeping it.
The only way that we the playerbase can keep the pressure on, to ensure frequent fixes to Odyssey, is to STOP BUYING PAINT JOBS, SHIP KITS AND OTHER COSMETIC INCIDENTALS until we see the game is in a fit and stable state of play for trading, combat and exploration.
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I say Lock down their investors, and upper management, and make them Play the game.
Have them unlock 5 Engineers, then MOD at least 3 Ship components, THEN tell us how great Fun the game is.
Have this Rule as a requirement, before they can have any say in the Development of this game.
Facts...now mind you, the story goes that the Investors strong arming CD Project Rekt into releasing CP 2077 isn't exactly how it all went down. The investors simply requested if the game would be ready by December, and the management lied through their teeth about the actual state of the game. The investors lost a ton of money, resulting in possible class action lawsuits. They messed with the wrong people. Now that's there story in a nutshell. Will it turn out to be the case with Frontier? We'll see, I wouldn't be surprised. The investors have influence, but not THAT much damn influence like people assume, if the CP 2077 saga is any indication. This, ironically, only indicts these companies EVEN MORE, because it just means they have even less of an excuse for releasing these games in such a state. All investors ask for is that the company fulfills what they have promised. But they really can't outright force them to release a game earlier than its ready. That is 100% upper management. The problem is that these companies keep making promises they clearly can't keep, as far as the quality of the product itself at least.
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Frontier Developments are not bothered by any amount of rants from the playerbase. They conned us into pre-order, grabbed our money, and made it difficult to claim a refund. This is game development at its very worst.
Hello Games realised their mistake with the abismal launch of NMS and changed their ways by initiating continual and open communicaction with their players. The result, developers at 'still little studio' Hello Games are now looked upon as God's and deservedly so.
Unfortunately, Frontier Developments are too big, have a huge number of investors, and couldn't give a damn if they spew-out an unfinished game... They will fix it in their own time, perhaps over 4 or 5 years.
What FDEV have done quickly though is ruin the game industry. Never again will players pre-order titles after the cash-grab abomination of Odyssey. This is not only a bad day for us all but also for all smaller games studios that rely on advanced payments to make ends meet.
Hello Games realised their mistake with the abismal launch of NMS and changed their ways by initiating continual and open communicaction with their players. The result, developers at 'still little studio' Hello Games are now looked upon as God's and deservedly so.
Unfortunately, Frontier Developments are too big, have a huge number of investors, and couldn't give a damn if they spew-out an unfinished game... They will fix it in their own time, perhaps over 4 or 5 years.
What FDEV have done quickly though is ruin the game industry. Never again will players pre-order titles after the cash-grab abomination of Odyssey. This is not only a bad day for us all but also for all smaller games studios that rely on advanced payments to make ends meet.
I hope it has multiplayer but i believe it is a singleplayer game