I might as well just give up on Odyssey and just play Horizons and then give up completely come autumn.
ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous | Odyssey: Roadmap
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An apology?
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Too frit of what the shareholders will think to do something like actually own their mistakes. Shame really.
C'mon guys sooner or later I hope we will get what we deserve, let's ease the pressure it's Friday, and the people working at FD aren't totally guilty. Bad decisions, and terrible outcomes are part of the human history. This is what makes us great.
If everything goes well finally one day we will remember odyssey launch laughing and then I hope we finally learned the lesson about pre ordering.
If everything goes wrong, it will go wrong for FD too. And probably someone will launch a better game.
In the meantime...
We became more close to each other as a community. And that's good. Let's continue sharing the grief.
If everything goes well finally one day we will remember odyssey launch laughing and then I hope we finally learned the lesson about pre ordering.
If everything goes wrong, it will go wrong for FD too. And probably someone will launch a better game.
In the meantime...
We became more close to each other as a community. And that's good. Let's continue sharing the grief.
It's just a temporary placeholder. The real roadmap content will be released in a future update.
Thanks Arf,
I'm already seeing good improvements in update 2 and look forward to seeing more.
I know many will argue that Odyssey should never have been released in this state and I suspect there are those in FD that agree, but sometimes we are handed these situations, we can't change what is - but we can change what will be.
It must be a tough time being in the sights of so many blamethrowers (see HHGTTG
) but if FDs response measures up to the roadmap challenges you can still make Odyssey a great new phase to an already great game.Many thanks to you and the team!
Which begs the question how the hell did you not see it was so broken before you released it? Do you not test your own products, or did you simply not care as, like we all know, Odyssey is actually a beta test rather than a full release.
It was an honest question (referred to in another post following it) as the impression I got form the roadmap was that following Patch 5 the focus was on getting performance to a state where it would run on last-gen consoles (and low-end PC's)
I'm not particualry bleating about performance, but run in 4K as standard and having some unpredicatability in framerates: I could drop to 2560*1440 (I do for CZs) and get a reasonable boost, but some fuzziness on screen as a result. 1080p on my monitor is very fuzzy...
I think they knew it for sure.
Well, I appreciate the effort to communicate something but that is....
underwhelming to say the least. Lets take out the repeated phrase "Many improvements and fixes":
Guys this isn't a "roadmap". It's a very rough sketch of the next 3 patches aimed at fixing what's been released largely broken. Will the Galaxy map be made usable on my widescreen TV so I can select the thing I'm actually pointing at? Don't know. Will the camera offset on some ships that leaves them out-of-frame be fixed? Don't know. Bugs in mission conditions fixed? Don't know. Fleet carrier jump plotting tied to player position fixed? Don't know.
I had hoped that some of the really pressing bugs and issues were to be acknowledged and given some level of priority and maybe an idea which update would aim to address them. Right now I only know that the UI will be changing somehow and some missing features of the game are being added in.
Would it really be destructive to the enterprise to put up a webpage that is maintained and shows what the current priorities are, which high-profile bugs are being squished and maybe some basic indication of status for those things? I know that such things can become monsters in their own right when people care more about the document being updated than the work getting done but it doesn't need to be flashy or intricate. Just a running list of the development items both fixes and features you're willing to disclose and where in general things are at with it.
underwhelming to say the least. Lets take out the repeated phrase "Many improvements and fixes":
- Update 3 – Thursday 10th June
- Loadout UI flow changes
- Adding earned ARX for on-foot gameplay
- Update 4 – Thursday 17th June
- Suit Livery UI flow changes
- Codex CMDR stats
- Update 5 – Thursday 24th June
- Shared missions
- Galaxy & system map UI updates
- Outfitting UI updates
Guys this isn't a "roadmap". It's a very rough sketch of the next 3 patches aimed at fixing what's been released largely broken. Will the Galaxy map be made usable on my widescreen TV so I can select the thing I'm actually pointing at? Don't know. Will the camera offset on some ships that leaves them out-of-frame be fixed? Don't know. Bugs in mission conditions fixed? Don't know. Fleet carrier jump plotting tied to player position fixed? Don't know.
I had hoped that some of the really pressing bugs and issues were to be acknowledged and given some level of priority and maybe an idea which update would aim to address them. Right now I only know that the UI will be changing somehow and some missing features of the game are being added in.
Would it really be destructive to the enterprise to put up a webpage that is maintained and shows what the current priorities are, which high-profile bugs are being squished and maybe some basic indication of status for those things? I know that such things can become monsters in their own right when people care more about the document being updated than the work getting done but it doesn't need to be flashy or intricate. Just a running list of the development items both fixes and features you're willing to disclose and where in general things are at with it.
You've already had two of those from the CEO.
With all due respect (really lots of respect for the devs and the whole team!)
- all major steps described above are easily steps in beta releases. You should have gone live no earlier than step 5 of after that. I do understand the business rewuirements for releasing the game before the end of your fiscal year but in some cases you just have to accept that it isn't possible.
- it's good to see that you bring up communication yourself. As a Kickstarter backer I've seen a lot go wrong in that end over the years. (mainly just not listening or reacting to valuable input).
Never forget that this it such a great game. Try to find where its real heart lies and try to expand upon that.
- all major steps described above are easily steps in beta releases. You should have gone live no earlier than step 5 of after that. I do understand the business rewuirements for releasing the game before the end of your fiscal year but in some cases you just have to accept that it isn't possible.
- it's good to see that you bring up communication yourself. As a Kickstarter backer I've seen a lot go wrong in that end over the years. (mainly just not listening or reacting to valuable input).
Never forget that this it such a great game. Try to find where its real heart lies and try to expand upon that.
It's a roadmap of the major changes and fixes to odyssey they intend to implement over the new few weeks.
What's the issue?
Watched Yamiks' stream, with Exigeous and The Pilot; it was like a wake, but with less alcohol.
I think they seem pretty serious, don't you? Also, being 'left behind' seems overly obscure. Do you mean in terms of crossplay? I come from a different perspective apparently.
Also also, if your invoking the late hour (and this inspired my own comment here so thank you), infrastructure updates should definitely probably be the priority - but, as with the U.S. where there's more infrastructure than anybody knows what the hell to do with, more than in the entirety of Europe and the U.K. combined, much more than in the half-built nations of Russia and China (territory-wise), such updates are monumentally insane in scope - but, as with the U.S. where we get around to things, it will happen at some point. Also I hear at times something about China being very good at suddenly building and improving things, but I dismiss these anecdotes as depressing.
Greetings FDev,
As mentioned in on 24th May in my previous forum post, thank-you for the refund. After 4000 hours playing Horizons, I have uninstalled the game in its entirety and no longer play at all.
I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone at FDev for their patience and understanding while I review your reports and feedback. I’ve been working hard to follow your critical issues such as server and stability problems ignored during Alpha.
To that end, here’s a short summary of your immediate roadmap of updates and the key conclusions from them.
- Update 3 – Thursday 10th June
- Not going to buy Odyssey again
- Not going to buy Odyssey again
- Update 4 – Thursday 17th June
- Not going to buy Odyssey again
- Not going to buy Odyssey again
- Update 5 – Thursday 24th June
- Not going to buy Odyssey again
Planetary geometry and lighting is a topic that I know is close to the hearts of many of the devs, and is something I am looking carefully at. I will of course, continue to update you over the coming weeks as I re-evaluate making a purchasing decision.
While I am expecting to see specific and targeted performance improvements in the upcoming June updates, I am also aware that development work for console will allow time needed for the performance optimizations and enhancements that should have been concluded before retail PC launch. Therefore, I feel the best approach for myself will be to not purchase Odyssey until our multi-platform community is brought together once more.
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