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Time to kick back and Chill! :cool:

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Serious comment!

It just occurred to me that if Fdev had a rival in the space game genre, all they would have to do is read through why everyone is mad at fdev for ed-edo and its like a "how to be better than fdev" walk through. Maybe we'll get lucky and that's already happening 😉
It's already happening, WRT to The Game That Must Not Be Mentioned.

Multiple comments: "This looks like Odyssey!"
 
Sure, if I had known about the Kickstarter I too would have been a LEP holder... and fair play, you pre-paid for it.

One thing about all of this that is a little frightening though - Are LEPs going to be value for money in the future if the initial game release is such a steaming pile of Poo!
Actually, I didn't even kickstart. I got in at the premium beta stage when they had a playable prototype. The idea to go for World of Braben instead of Frontier Elite 4 had left me cold, but by then the game was going to have an offline mode, yay! :D :(

And really, as I said, LEPs are already very rarely good value for money. I see them more as a lifetime insurance. Every game will inevitably become utter poop, but you'll get to experience it hands-on rather than by proxy. And yes, enjoying the jank and ranting about it online is fun. I mean, unless the expense was considerable and is still fresh in your memory.

If the initial game is awful? Well, guess then one has gambled wrong. Pre-ordering digital goods is inherently stupid. Don't do it.

Personally, I have been vaccinated against kickstarter by Shroud Scam of the Avatar. That one was a hell of a ride... It even released something. I still haven't had the willpower to install/launch it.
 
No...

It just shows how far removed the Millennial generation are...
Ask any teenager today where a bacon sandwich comes from?
Or the Sunday Roast (if such things still exist)?
Or the McDonald's Burger?
and what food processing is required to produce this food?

It's all rather disillusioning.

Ethical debates about virtual animals is an amusing pastime, but don't confuse it as being indicative of real world politics.
Yep.
It's not only about meat, though.


"A 2011 study published in the Journal of Agricultural Education showed that 72 percent of children living in urban California don’t know that cheese is made from cow’s milk."

"According to the survey, 7 percent of Americans think chocolate milk comes from brown cows while 48 percent were unaware of how it is made"

etc
 
Yep.


"A 2011 study published in the Journal of Agricultural Education showed that 72 percent of children living in urban California don’t know that cheese is made from cow’s milk."

"According to the survey, 7 percent of Americans think chocolate milk comes from brown cows while 48 percent were unaware of how it is made"

etc
Because it's true. The same as Milka cows are actually purple/white.
 
You don't really get to write articles after the event unless you are a games reviewer for a magazine etc...

/EndRant
This is one of the stupidest statements I've read. So what you are saying is, that only "professionals" are allowed to voice their opinions after the fact whereas consumers should just keep their mouths shut?
 
This is one of the stupidest statements I've read. So what you are saying is, that only "professionals" are allowed to voice their opinions after the fact whereas consumers should just keep their mouths shut?
I think it's more of a case that if you know/suspect that something is going to be poop, and STILL decide to pay for it, well, you can voice your opinion all you want, but what sticks if that it was still good enough for you to pay for it. And as a consumer, you have many, many ways to assess product quality ahead of purchase.

By comparison, professional reviewers have to buy the product in order to review it so you don't have to.
 
Seriously, I love you all. :D

(Well, he is not really my type, even gender is not really fitting, but...
mouth are mouth, I can work this around by closing my eyes and using imagination.)


So, you know, this is something really serious you just said.
Before I decide to reciprocate this emotions, I have to be sure you are for real.
There is a way to abuse prove such love confessions.

So, I think it's enough talk, time for some action...
 
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I think it's more of a case that if you know/suspect that something is going to be poop, and STILL decide to pay for it, well, you can voice your opinion all you want, but what sticks if that it was still good enough for you to pay for it. And as a consumer, you have many, many ways to assess product quality ahead of purchase.

By comparison, professional reviewers have to buy the product in order to review it so you don't have to.
Professionals don't really buy their games, they usually get review copies. Consumers buy games, at times in good trust. Think of Cyberpunk and its glowing reviews and what happened when the players finally got the game. They did, after all, buy the game in good trust because of the studio involved and the reviews. The same can be said of Odyssey with FD telling us, that they had a development version where all was working fine but in the end, the truth was very different. With this FD has shown they are not a company to be trusted.

To say anything else is to shift the blame to the consumer. It's not the developer's fault, it's yours for buying it.
 
Professionals don't really buy their games, they usually get review copies. Consumers buy games, at times in good trust. Think of Cyberpunk and its glowing reviews and what happened when the players finally got the game. They did, after all, buy the game in good trust because of the studio involved and the reviews. The same can be said of Odyssey with FD telling us, that they had a development version where all was working fine but in the end, the truth was very different. With this FD has shown they are not a company to be trusted.

To say anything else is to shift the blame to the consumer. It's not the developer's fault, it's yours for buying it.
You are dangerously veering on topic. Please stay away. You have been warned. :)

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This is one of the stupidest statements I've read. So what you are saying is, that only "professionals" are allowed to voice their opinions after the fact whereas consumers should just keep their mouths shut?
Quite the contrary. But if you wish to claim the moral high ground, you are on shaky ground.
 
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