I was wrong. Relogging is officially supported game mechanic.
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Perhaps you shouldn't set up your goal too high ? Remember to have fun. It's a game.
Also, if it's too much, you can skip it. You don't need to participate in the CG.
That what I was told numerous time when I brought the issue about mat grinding and relogging. I fully agree mind you, it's silly.
But I was just saying that maybe we should have seen it coming a long time ago ? It's hardly a new issue. The problem has been there for years. I'll continue doing what I always did : relogging. For the people who said it was wrong, and refused to discuss about the underlying problem (since accoridng to them it was fine), you can either join the club or stand on the hill you chose to die on. It's all the same to me.
Low grav world only, and you'll still need to relog to have the stuff respawn.
The fact that I don't need to participate in this CG is beside the point.
Main main point is that since Fdev uses materials obtainable via relogging as a base for official event - they either acknowledge that relogging is legitimate and intended way to play the game, or they have no clue what's going on in their game. If they designed this game with relogging in mind, then... this thought is just terrifying.
I actually believe that there is some limitation with what can be done about respawns of mats and other things due to instancing - it's a multiplayer game after all, so even if certain thing wouldn't respawn for me, I could end up in an instance, where some other player haven't picked it up yet, so it would have to be present there. If those things would dissapear for everyone once someone picks them up (like core asteroids or upgraded suits or weapons in Odyssey shops), they would become impossible to get for lots of people.
So it's probably unfortunate and maybe unavoidable side effect of how things work in this game - but even so - to use it in official event is to recognise that intended way to play the game in this case is to repetitively exit the game and log back in.
That's just horrible design.
In other news.... Today a man shouted at a cloud.
Agreed. But it's not the first time we had the problem. May I remind you of the relatively recent "billions credits CG" ?
I still say they don't fix relogging because it's the easy way out of the problem. They probably want to fix it, but that would involve spending time and effort balancing how engineering mats are obtained.
It's kinda ironic that most people agreed the raw mat grind was fine (no relogging necessary), and yet it was the only changed for odyssey, for the worse.
Yes, I remember, but one such CG could have been an oversight, and I treated it as a mistake. I'm not sure now.
Oh, that hurt.
But yeah.
Pretty much everything about materials is wrong in this game. 1,200 years in the future and we're breaking rocks like some survival game. I'm not at all sure I would have started playing if I had known that beforehand.
I like this for a number of reasons, first of all it's a creative way to play the game, secondly it's good to see an actual use for a viper 4
<pedant>That's debatable on how much time anyone has on their hands possibly</pedant> but even if it's only reasonably achievable by relogging then that ain't cool.
No, I mean that even if we all had 24/7 available it still wouldn't work. It's 'relog and grab in 20s' Vs 'try to find a new base somewhere'. Some of these literally require the community to relog.
And yes, I agree. It ain't cool.
I stand corrected. There needs to be a resolution to the disconnect that is plainly evident where FDev must think that their totals are 'legitimately' achievable based on, I imagine, their gameplay stats and data, but without realizing that those numbers are based on relogging, either that or you are correct, and FDev have just accepted that relogging is a thing and are just going with it now.
That's quite literally as close to the opposite of objective truths you can get, but I hope it made you feel better having said it.
That's quite literally as close to the opposite of objective truths you can get, but I hope it made you feel better having said it.
Unfortunately no, it’s really not that far from the truth. It really is quite shallow.
But regardless of how shallow it may or may not be, relogging is still the most shallow part of the game. Not the opposite.
In any case, I find the whole argument silly. I play a pile of AAA games every year, and ED is easily among the least shallow ones. Which means nothing, as I enjoy the 'shallow' ones just fine. The whole 'ED so shallow' is just a bunch of Nerd-Karen whining. Go play your Deep Games, Einstein.
I don't really agree in all points but for the word "Nerd-Karen" a like
Wow I must have really struck a nerve there. Relax will ya?
I am just saying the thing you said seems fairly silly. No nerves struck, no need to relax.
"yOu MaD bRo?!?"
a) Barry Hercules
b) it is awful, the fact that it's "official" and the fact that the gameplay is what it is that makes it needed in the first place
I didn’t think it was that silly. I feel like the game is full of missed opportunities and half implemented features using repetitive gaming loops without any real depth to them, hence “shallow”.
You may feel differently about it and that’s OK.
No need to get bent out of shape about it.