I'm afraid the Armstrong Moment has already occurred...Can we /thread this now and go back to complaining about the game?
re: Statement on Harassment
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Are you sure about that??? Is it you who's put those cameras outside my house???! And there I was blaming 'them'
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If you look closely the helicopters are a really, really dark grey.Are you sure about that??? Is it you who's put those cameras outside my house???! And there I was blaming 'them'
The cameras were totally me though, sorry.
Yup looks like the colour's 010101, my bad
During my master's I walked around a bit in a penal institution for criminals who committed serious crimes partly due to psychiatric illness. One very notable thing was that no matter how horrible the crime, they always had this excuse why it was really someone else's fault. "If she hadn't [insert grievance] I wouldn't have had to [insert psychopathic horror]."
I made a mental note to stay away from people in general who use that line of reasoning, big or small.
Upset about your computer game, boss, family-in-law or the neighbours cat? Sure. You might have a point. But you are responsible for your own behavior and if you cross a line thats on you and nobody else.
I made a mental note to stay away from people in general who use that line of reasoning, big or small.
Upset about your computer game, boss, family-in-law or the neighbours cat? Sure. You might have a point. But you are responsible for your own behavior and if you cross a line thats on you and nobody else.
When someone is angry, and raises the rolled newspaper, I hide in my doggie crate.
Attacking character traits of other people is abusive behavior. I chose a relatively mild example in an attempt not to be incendiary.
Calling the statement nonsense is both completely true and not abusive. Calling him a name ("liar" for example) over having made the statement would be abusive behavior to my judgement.
Complete tangent but this reminds me of working on a construction site within the grounds of a psychiatric hospital. We were told whatever you do, never ever run, or someone will come running after you. I was never sure if it was the guards or the residents.
It is never ok to harass, and I support this attitude of bannage.
However....have the upper management bean-counters above you taken notice of the passion of the community and maybe...I dunno...taken their grubby paws off of things as a result? That's where the real issue lays, and we all know it.
However....have the upper management bean-counters above you taken notice of the passion of the community and maybe...I dunno...taken their grubby paws off of things as a result? That's where the real issue lays, and we all know it.
'Abuse' is potentially a broad category - if I have an issue with sound design and note it as a sound team problem (as an example) that looks like it would qualify under this statement.
No, it really doesn't.
It doesn't. Because pointing out the sound team are at fault for a sound problem isn't being abusive. Perhaps entirely unhelpful and unecessary but not abusive.
I woke up this morning to find the mentioned forum post and was immediately overcome with a sense of disappointment. I get that some folks are going over the top with the salt, but the way that the post was worded makes it come across as a form of silencing. That’s the last thing this community needs right now. The quickest way to drive away passionate people is to make them feel like they have no voice.
I see alot of above posts talking about how this doesn’t allow a lot of room to interpret just what ”abuse” means, but I disagree. I felt timid even about writing this response after actions I have seen taken on friends for their own posts that come from nothing but a place of passion for Elite.
In this era of ‘more transparency and better communication’, passionate players should be encouraged to come forward and voice their issues and concerns. They should also be listened to for their valuable feedback and their ideas on how certain features or issues could be improved. Posts like that of earlier today do not encourage that sort of thing. In my humble opinion, they choke a little more life out of an already suffocating community.
“The tighter you squeeze, the less you have.” -Thomas Merton
I see alot of above posts talking about how this doesn’t allow a lot of room to interpret just what ”abuse” means, but I disagree. I felt timid even about writing this response after actions I have seen taken on friends for their own posts that come from nothing but a place of passion for Elite.
In this era of ‘more transparency and better communication’, passionate players should be encouraged to come forward and voice their issues and concerns. They should also be listened to for their valuable feedback and their ideas on how certain features or issues could be improved. Posts like that of earlier today do not encourage that sort of thing. In my humble opinion, they choke a little more life out of an already suffocating community.
“The tighter you squeeze, the less you have.” -Thomas Merton
Too late. On today's Supercruise Livestream where CM's were playing pirates and having fun, mods were banning A LOT of people for simply asking questions because "we are here just to play the game" reason. This game is dead mate. In fact, it would be probably the best choice to just kill it completely then beating a dead horse.
I agree, it doesn't exactly clarify what would be seen as insults and accusations, with a vague statement as it is, it could as well be like "Your rights end where my feelings start."
Personal attacks is clear enough.
I think the game will be great after all the fixes and patches - it’s Beta after all
Just to relate a personal experience with the mods / community team here - and I hope the team accepts that I technically break the rules here:
After the launch of Odyssey I replied to a pretty offensive post in an ambigous way, which got me a pretty hefty infraction and half year ban for harassment.
I didn't raise hell and ragequit (how could I with my ban lol), but wrote the team two E-Mails concerning my post, and directly after the weekend the ban was lifted as it was a misunderstanding - which I could totally see as understandable. English is not my native language and the post I replied to was harassment, plain and simple, and my post could've been seen as harassment either.
So first I want to say, harassment of the community team (or posters here) is totally not acceptable.
Second, even if someone makes a mistake, appeal works in case you're not doing something wrong.
Third, the community team including support is superb and I really pity you guys that you have to work with all the crap
Odyssey emptied over your heads.
Fourth: plz no ban for breaking rules, I root for you guys&gals, if in doubt just delete plz
After the launch of Odyssey I replied to a pretty offensive post in an ambigous way, which got me a pretty hefty infraction and half year ban for harassment.
I didn't raise hell and ragequit (how could I with my ban lol), but wrote the team two E-Mails concerning my post, and directly after the weekend the ban was lifted as it was a misunderstanding - which I could totally see as understandable. English is not my native language and the post I replied to was harassment, plain and simple, and my post could've been seen as harassment either.
So first I want to say, harassment of the community team (or posters here) is totally not acceptable.
Second, even if someone makes a mistake, appeal works in case you're not doing something wrong.
Third, the community team including support is superb and I really pity you guys that you have to work with all the crap
Odyssey emptied over your heads.
Fourth: plz no ban for breaking rules, I root for you guys&gals, if in doubt just delete plz
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