I cannot recall many scenarios where someone personally attacked someone and got away with it. An actual personal attack.When you come to a forum, its not your house, and you have to play by the rules and culture if you're going to stay. Over time, its really clear that there's a real amount of distasteful banter thats allowed to continue, to a fairly consistent point where the mods step in. Given that the moderation has perfectly been two sided, you're allowed to defend yourself in kind if it happens, there's never been an issue and its just one of those things. I always defended myself rather than using the report button, but anyway.
The point being, this is being changed from the top. The new direction is definitely overrules the forum culture that previously existed. So if its going to be enforced, my opinion is it should be enforced in all cases, not just player to cm.
Whether we get banned from that point is our responsibility.
I think you're mistaking arguing and sarcasm, bickering or ad hominem with personal attacks. They're just not the same thing. Ad hominem definitely isn't what Arf is talking about.
An example is I can say you aren't helpful and you often annoy me, which is ad hominem (I don't think that, just an example). If I keep doing it I'm sure I'd get an infraction at some point. If I keep getting infractions then I'll eventually get banned.
It's just not the same as me attacking you personally, such as saying you deserve to die or saying things about your family or threatening you, saying you're a - insert expletive here - and so on (again, just examples, I think you're great really
As I said, it's best we let the mods get on with it. I don't think Arf's post has suddenly given cause for us to begin double guessing the way rules are enforced. Not at all. Abuse isn't tolerated. And I think that's easy to get on side with, right? It's just that it's been happening a lot recently towards staff. I don't think we need to play the whole "but we're abused too" card.
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