State of the Game

Oztig

Oztig
Boomtrooper said:
NMS just didn't appeal with the cartoony graphics, whereas I always found EDH visually bang on for my taste - but it does sound like NMS has undergone a revolution of improvement, and I think now fully VR compatible so maybe it's time to give it a try whilst I wait for Odissee (sorry, couldn't help it... 🤣) to be sorted out.

I just love the gritty 'realism' of EDH though...
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You'll love the gritty realism of NMS with its' flying pets, talking cucumbers, and fully emulated planetary scale weather (I may be lying about some of this).
I bought NMS when it came out, and keep updating it, but I must confess that after about 20 mins of it, I get bored.

I've never got the 'thrill' behind base building, it does nothing for me, it's a shame I can't get into it, but hey hum.
I like the 1970s rock album art style - but the rest of it just feels like a mobile phone / arcade game to me (no depth) - which is a shame, as I want to like it.

They certainly are busy adding new stuff to it all the time, which is impressive.

Not really sure where this post is going, so will stop here - t'ra

EDIT: link for 70s album cover / NMS inspiration (I suspect) : https://www.rogerdean.com
 
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Winterwalker

Winterwalker
Darth Ender said:
hallucinating the idea that looking at plants is worth 40 usd
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Well .. NASA just spent $2.7bn sending Perserverance to Mars looking for signs of just that?

You might think that's a waste of money too. And if you're not an explorer, maybe logging plants not your thing. But you have combat around bases, @Nekozji said he isn't into that. I'm saying it's fun, especially bacteria colonies for me.

Not for us to say, what's worth what to whom though. That's up to them, don't you think.
 
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Boomtrooper

Boomtrooper
Winterwalker said:
(giving the alterantive view to Darth, who I'm not even sure has tried the exxpansion for himself)

If you're not into combat I'm sure you know - in space - there are times when it's shields up and run away, rather than fight and die and it's similar with EDO. Apart from the planet tech (which is very much better imho - saw a snow field yesterday to die for) like all good diplomacy, if you draw a gun that only means you failed. And there are several missions that might require you to be stealthy but don't include combat. (Even for me combat can be fun if it's contextualised and not constant. It isn't.)

Searching for bacteria and other lifeforms is also fun imo (especially when there are multiple forms to sort out from each other) and a much better reason for explorers to set down on far distant planets than 'yet another' cache of taifette 100 yards from the last one. The worst possible case is you might need to dial resolution back a notch on your machine but I'm playing all high settings, planet materials on ultra on a laptop. i7 but still a laptop and able to do all the things above.

Talking of lifeforms. Here's a pic of two cats during the late Devonian period, about 320 million years before cats ...

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Awwwwww.... just look at the little critters... just hangin' out, waiting to evolve fur....
 

ULITE

ULITE
Oztig said:
I like the 1970s rock album art style - but the rest of it just feels like a mobile phone / arcade game to me (no depth) - which is a shame, as I want to like it.
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Some of the graphics of NMS reminds me of 60th SciFi stuff, but it is not 100% right, its like they tried and added too much color. The NASA nailed it with some of their Galaxy of Horrors posters https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/alien-worlds/galaxy-of-horrors/
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exoplanets.nasa.gov

Galaxy of Horrors - NASA Science

Take a tour of some of the most terrifying and mind-blowing destinations in our galaxy … and beyond.
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Darth Ender

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Winterwalker said:
Well .. NASA just spent $2.7bn sending Perserverance to Mars looking for signs of just that?
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i didn't realize nasa was a game

Winterwalker said:
You might think that's a waste of money too. And if you're not an explorer, maybe logging plants not your thing. But you have combat around bases, @Nekozji said he isn't into that. I'm saying it's fun, especially bacteria colonies for me.
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the dude said he wasn't into combat but your response is suggesting something based around combat... not sure if you're not listening to him or just think you'll convince them that they were wrong to not like elite's brand of fps combat.

looking at plants is not something someone sane would pay 40 bucks to do as an addon to the exciting world of elite exploration that currently exists and is possible with what they already have

Winterwalker said:
Not for us to say, what's worth what to whom though. That's up to them, don't you think.
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that's exactly what someone who is asking what they should do wants. someone to make the decision for them. if they wanted to make up their own mind they wouldn't be asking.
 

Oztig

Oztig
Valorin said:
Good morning Thread.
It's another much-too-hot day with barely breathable air and not enough sleep.
Coffee supply is steady, booting sequence initiated. Brain in the process of powering up. Efficiency at approx 40%.
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40% is good, can you maintain that all day?

It's a nice steady 24 degrees in my office today - I'm off work, the sun is out, and I can go for a nice long walk to the garden centre. -
The excitement / fast pace action in my life never stops - not sure how I keep up with it :)
 

Valorin

Valorin
Oztig said:
40% is good, can you maintain that all day?

It's a nice steady 24 degrees in my office today - I'm off work, the sun is out, and I can go for a nice long walk to the garden centre. -
The excitement / fast pace action in my life never stops - not sure how I keep up with it :)
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I'm expecting efficiency to stay within 20% and 50% mostly.
I want Summer to be over. The yellow face is burning me.
 

Boomtrooper

Boomtrooper
Short ans
Nekozji said:
This seems like an appropriate thread to ask...

I haven't played for about a year. I'm not very much into combat, but I have an exploration ship (krait phantom? I'm not quite sure any more) with about 70ly range, I have a few ELW's with my name on, and I last logged out in Colonia having just made the long voyage with a vague eye to making the pilgrimage towards Saggitarius A*.

Is it a good time to pick up Odyssey, or does it need a lil longer to settle?

If it is a good time... should I start making my way back to the bubble, or is this a good enough place to use as my BOO?

If it's not a good time... is it silly to stick with Horizons and play anyway?
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Short answer.... keep playing EDH for a couple of months whilst the problems with EDO get ironed out unless you're one of the lucky ones that don't get dreadful framerates... Discaimer: I haven't played EDO for a few weeks so the last patches may have made it playable, but for my money, EDH scratches my "lone ranger roaming through a perfect galaxy in a perfect ship" itch and I'm happy to transfer to EDO once it's playable at the same level of perfection that EDH is
 

Boomtrooper

Boomtrooper
Winterwalker said:
True enough eateries do tend to serve their proto-cat more pink these days .. often with a jus of under evolved lemming ..
And on a roof tile .. which, if you go back far enough .. is probably the greatest grand daddy of us all!
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Don't get me started on that!!! If I wanted my steak served on a posh brick I'd be cooking on an open fire in the woods... If I'm in a restaurant, I would like a traditional plate, thank you very much... 😏
 

Lysette

Lysette
Oztig said:
You'll love the gritty realism of NMS with its' flying pets, talking cucumbers, and fully emulated planetary scale weather (I may be lying about some of this).
I bought NMS when it came out, and keep updating it, but I must confess that after about 20 mins of it, I get bored.

I've never got the 'thrill' behind base building, it does nothing for me, it's a shame I can't get into it, but hey hum.
I like the 1970s rock album art style - but the rest of it just feels like a mobile phone / arcade game to me (no depth) - which is a shame, as I want to like it.

They certainly are busy adding new stuff to it all the time, which is impressive.

Not really sure where this post is going, so will stop here - t'ra

EDIT: link for 70s album cover / NMS inspiration (I suspect) : https://www.rogerdean.com
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The problem is that you judge it after 20 minutes - building a basic shelter is part of the tutorial and important, because for some machinery (like the medium refiner) you need to place it at least in a simple hut - the medium refiner is part of the information retrieval from the base computer, which provides blueprints (it is a quest series, if you build what it provides you get 1.5hrs later the next one). A medium refiner can combine 2 resources into 1 output material and doesn't require fuelling or power. There are other items which need to be in a habitable building as well. The game is deeper than you think - but after 20 minutes you have seen like nothing of it of course.
 

HRDiagram

HRDiagram
Oztig said:
You'll love the gritty realism of NMS with its' flying pets, talking cucumbers, and fully emulated planetary scale weather (I may be lying about some of this).
I bought NMS when it came out, and keep updating it, but I must confess that after about 20 mins of it, I get bored.

I've never got the 'thrill' behind base building, it does nothing for me, it's a shame I can't get into it, but hey hum.
I like the 1970s rock album art style - but the rest of it just feels like a mobile phone / arcade game to me (no depth) - which is a shame, as I want to like it.

They certainly are busy adding new stuff to it all the time, which is impressive.

Not really sure where this post is going, so will stop here - t'ra

EDIT: link for 70s album cover / NMS inspiration (I suspect) : https://www.rogerdean.com
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I don't know.

To me the art of NMS reminds me something more recent than the surreal artwork found on album covers in the 70s.

Something like this, perhaps.

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Valorin

Valorin
Boomtrooper said:
NMS just didn't appeal with the cartoony graphics, whereas I always found EDH visually bang on for my taste - but it does sound like NMS has undergone a revolution of improvement, and I think now fully VR compatible so maybe it's time to give it a try whilst I wait for Odissee (sorry, couldn't help it... 🤣) to be sorted out.

I just love the gritty 'realism' of EDH though...
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I don't even consider NMS the same genre as Elite.
It's a completely different game. You move with space ships and there's planets. That's about it.
 
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