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Nah - searched it and proved it, Mr Rabbit... and keep on proving it... Now - where is Elmer Phud when you need to catch a wabbit!
But...
Do you have proof, that your proof won't be falsified in the future
as there was some mistake
or it didn't take under consideration some (yet unknown) factors?
 
i would just go with the social contract of treat others the way you'd like to be treated. If someone is advertising their beliefs such that i'm even aware of them then they should be prepared to have my beliefs that their beliefs are stupid advertised back.

this is the way.
 
But...
Do you have proof, that your proof won't be falsified in the future
as there was some mistake
or it didn't take under consideration some (yet unknown) factors?
Well that's an interesting question, and as you have asked: There are always challenges, but the key is trust. If you have an anchor, and are humble enough to admit when you make a mistake, then you go back to the anchor and start again. Humans are messy things. No anchor and you are blown this way and that by everything that comes along. I do not yet know fully, so it's like looking in one of those warped/corroded mirrors you find in the second hand shop. You are not always sure if you are seeing right, so you keep striving, keep looking. My faith tells me I don't have to know everything now, I can't know everything now... but one day...

I call it "biting my tongue" ;)
That'll do, donkey, that'll do! :cool:
 
i would just go with the social contract of treat others the way you'd like to be treated. If someone is advertising their beliefs such that i'm even aware of them then they should be prepared to have my beliefs that their beliefs are stupid advertised back.

this is the way.
If we all did that, then we'd by at each others throats and murdering each other... Oh wait - that's exactly what happens! Lucky for you I'm more the strike the other cheek kinda guy. Have a blessed evening!
 
Well that's an interesting question, and as you have asked: There are always challenges, but the key is trust. If you have an anchor, and are humble enough to admit when you make a mistake, then you go back to the anchor and start again. Humans are messy things. No anchor and you are blown this way and that by everything that comes along. I do not yet know fully, so it's like looking in one of those warped/corroded mirrors you find in the second hand shop. You are not always sure if you are seeing right, so you keep striving, keep looking. My faith tells me I don't have to know everything now, I can't know everything now... but one day...


That'll do, donkey, that'll do! :cool:
I have a very religious grandma (Jehowa's Witness),
and I was "sent" to her for 2-3 weeks for a few years in a row since I was 3 yo.
The other Grandma was Catholic.
They were taking turns "interrogating" me to find out what blasphemy the other one has taught me.
It kind of made me immune to ANY religion pretty early.
I was considering their obsession of finding DIFFERENCES instead of focusing on SIMILARITIES pointless and erroneous.

Now, faith is something else, I do understand you, I am inclined to think of reality as a place of "non random scenarios disguised in cloak of probabilities".

But that's about it, I try to make no other assumptions, as they too would be not possible to verify, and I don't think that what I believe in has (or should have) any real importance to the universe - this lessens the burden of responsibility for activity in my head I would have when I would extend the impact of my beliefs on anything outside my head.
 
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If we all did that, then we'd by at each others throats and murdering each other... Oh wait - that's exactly what happens! Lucky for you I'm more the strike the other cheek kinda guy. Have a blessed evening!

no. i dont put my beliefs in people's faces all willy nilly.

nobody here even knows mine.

and even if someone was putting theirs out ... i'd have to be annoyed enough about it to take the energy to respond in kind. It's not a rule that you have to do unto others as they do unto you. Just that you should be prepared for others to do unto you as you do unto them.

so if you want to spread your beliefs around, dont get butt hurt when you are told that they're stupid. That's the deal you make.
 
no. i dont put my beliefs in people's faces all willy nilly.

nobody here even knows mine.

and even if someone was putting theirs out ... i'd have to be annoyed enough about it to take the energy to respond in kind. It's not a rule that you have to do unto others as they do unto you. Just that you should be prepared for others to do unto you as you do unto them.

so if you want to spread your beliefs around, dont get butt hurt when you are told that they're stupid. That's the deal you make.
Just don't let yourself get overly triggered by mistaking SHARING for spreading (attempts).
 
Just don't let yourself get overly triggered by mistaking SHARING for spreading (attempts).

all depends on if it's unsolicited at me or not.

there's nothing to mistake when such things aren't solicited. since there is no difference there.

either way. i'd still have to care.. and i dont care about so much about people's lives and beliefs that ...you'd have to climb a fairly steep hill to make me want to say something about it. So many more important things to spend energy on than talk to someone you have no interest in.
 
“What have I always believed?
That on the whole, and by and large, if a man lived properly, not according to what any priests said, but according to what seemed decent and honest inside, then it would, at the end, more or less, turn out all right.”

Terry Pratchett

“The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.”
Terry Pratchett
 
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