Camera Suite Improvements: Update Notes

[StuartGT]

Thanks for the write-up Sally!

Quick question about this bullet:

• This allows Commanders to fly the camera freely around a settlement, social space, or other location, without the camera blacking out whenever the line of sight to the player's vessel is occluded.

Does "vessel" here refer to ship/SRV/avatar - i.e. whichever the CMDR was controlling prior to entering FreeCam? So when on-foot the "vessel" is the human body?

 

[Craith]

I am a bit afraid that the new camera suite upgrade (as good as it is) will break the current workaround for VR players to get on-foot VR.

Update 5 already broke part of the functionality, the camera no longer centers on the head but a bit above, and it does not follow crouching anymore

It could also mean that we get the old functionality back. Since the workaround is no intended functionality any update might break EDO further us VR players and will most likely not be tested internally by FDev.
It is probably to late for Update 6, but could we get a button to move the camera just in front of the face as a stopgap solution in the next Update (until a real VR implementation can be undertaken, right after console release?)

 

[finnyblackpool]

Tech speak: This was an unsolvable problem for non-sealed/manifold trimesh hitcheck, which led to many false-positives in our current implementation

Very comfortable with these tech speak additions also - I appreciate the effort that goes into selecting the design pattern and what you overcame to solve.

 

[Alien]

Yes because obviously the camera suite is the highest priority bug that needs to be fixed first.
/sarcasm

Don't hate me, someone has to say it.

 

[Craith]

Yes because obviously the camera suite is the highest priority bug that needs to be fixed first.
/sarcasm

Don't hate me, someone has to say it.

Definitely not, but I prefer a team working in its area of expertise instead of adding nothing to the current patch at all or trying to fix something in an area they don't know about.

Unless ... they could be working on a VR implementation instead ... but maybe they are, and are only calling it camera suite until it is ready to deploy ...

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Thanks for the write-up Sally!

Quick question about this bullet:

Does "vessel" here refer to ship/SRV/avatar - i.e. whichever the CMDR was controlling prior to entering FreeCam? So when on-foot the "vessel" is the human body?

Sure! The vessel will be the "body"/"vehicle" in each individual case of where the camera suite is being activated from.

 

[sallymorganmoore]

I am a bit afraid that the new camera suite upgrade (as good as it is) will break the current workaround for VR players to get on-foot VR.

Update 5 already broke part of the functionality, the camera no longer centers on the head but a bit above, and it does not follow crouching anymore

It could also mean that we get the old functionality back. Since the workaround is no intended functionality any update might break EDO further us VR players and will most likely not be tested internally by FDev.
It is probably to late for Update 6, but could we get a button to move the camera just in front of the face as a stopgap solution in the next Update (until a real VR implementation can be undertaken, right after console release?)

I'll keep an eye out for any issues encountered for VR users post update 6. As I say, we will keep listening to feedback for sure!

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Definitely not, but I prefer a team working in its area of expertise instead of adding nothing to the current patch at all or trying to fix something in an area they don't know about.

Unless ... they could be working on a VR implementation instead ... but maybe they are, and are only calling it camera suite until it is ready to deploy ...

The issues with the Camera Suite were universally loud though - like really really loud. It would have been really ickie for any part of the cries to be ignored really.

 

[Rubbernuke]

How does the new camera deal with open doors and security force fields? Can I open a door, and virtually sneak inside and not trigger the security field?

 

[sallymorganmoore]

How does the new camera deal with open doors and security force fields? Can I open a door, and virtually sneak inside and not trigger the security field?

What would you plan to do without your body though? Even Yoda isn't that magical (maybe he is....)

 

[Arioch]

I’m looking forward to playing with this (VR had a nasty habit of Signal-Lost-ing just by a bit of head movement, just at the wrong moment)

As asked earlier, does the new freecam work within our ships? ie. can we detach the camera to float around the cabin?

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Thanks a lot for the update style update Sally

This has made me far happier, because it clearly shows that it's not just a case of putting the camera suite back to how it works in Odyssey, which is what the initial update sounded/looked like, but actually changes the way it works.

It's interesting that the only thing that used to have collision detection (your ship) is now the only thing that doesn't have it. I look forward to having a play around, and finding some more Osseus Pumice so I can take the screenshot I wanted to take the first time I found some

Yep! I've tried to say 'Elite Dangerous: Odyssey' as many times as possible throughout the post to be as clear as poss hehe.
So excited.

 

[Luke Wynne]

Any updates on release?

 

[sallymorganmoore]

I’m looking forward to playing with this (VR had a nasty habit of Signal-Lost-ing just by a bit of head movement, just at the wrong moment)

As asked earlier, does the new freecam work within our ships? ie. can we detach the camera to float around the cabin?

Nooo I'm afraid not, otherwise I would have ABSOLUTELY included that in these notes for sure

 

[sallymorganmoore]

Any updates on release?

Won't be found in this thread Luke, I'm afraid, but we're poised and ready for when we can throw that day out there! Busy times preparing back here

 

[sallymorganmoore]

This is brilliant stuff, I like it when you give us an insight into what and where and how and why.. hearing about why someting works or doesn't is the answer many crave. Really excited that you guys have brought this and it's really nice to be listened to. You and your team and all the developers are doing great work in restoring faith and trust. The more this game improves the more people will return and hopefully you can snag a few new players too!

Glad to hear it Piglet!

 

[Northpin]

Nice, a lot less of "signal lost" instances, but... is it darker? again?

 

[ebbrell]

im liking the new lighting, if that what it looks like.
shame there was FPS stuttering, i was hoping these has been recorded using the new FSR boost in performance.

looks nice though.

 

[Pigletslastand]

Nice, a lot less of "signal lost" instances, but... is it darker? again?

yeah I did kinda notice that.. let's hope not but don't forget they were prob using a test branch which may have relied on older lighting tech

 

[Arioch]

Nooo I'm afraid not, otherwise I would have ABSOLUTELY included that in these notes for sure

Ah well, never mind - those wonderful phone-front-camera-style shots looking right up my CMDR’s nostrils will have to wait for another time