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Big Elite Streamers Giving Up On Streaming Elite?
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Quote snipped for the point I want to make. I do get the sense that Frontier is "throwing us a bone" that they might not have otherwise. For example, why after months (if not years), now Frontier has finally decided to fix megaship looting? Same goes for module storage increase. It feels like Frontier is saying, "Give them something, anything, to calm down the angry crowd. Heck, give them Barabbas if that's what they want!"
And yes, I'm speculating, but I'm also looking for silver linings in a very dark cloud, and if Odyssey being a failure at launch ends up giving us a better product a year from now, then maybe this is actually a good thing.
Because...lol, no of course not
Quote snipped for the point I want to make. I do get the sense that Frontier is "throwing us a bone" that they might not have otherwise. For example, why after months (if not years), now Frontier has finally decided to fix megaship looting? Same goes for module storage increase. It feels like Frontier is saying, "Give them something, anything, to calm down the angry crowd. Heck, give them Barabbas if that's what they want!"
And yes, I'm speculating, but I'm also looking for silver linings in a very dark cloud, and if Odyssey being a failure at launch ends up giving us a better product a year from now, then maybe this is actually a good thing.
No idea. It could simply be a matter of someone working on something related to Odyssey, noticing an issue in the code and flagging it to his boss saying "Hey, i think i've just spotted what is causing the issue with megaship looting! Should i fix this while i'm at it? It will take me 5 minutes!" Boss then says, hell yeah! Its an easy win.
Maybe you heard of the issue with long loading times in GTA that Rockstar for years claimed they couldn't fix, or that a fix would be a major issue, and then some random guy, without access to the source code, just using profiling and other tools, figured out a fix and made a patch for it that apparently took him very little time.
Sometimes bugs are just like that.
Even from personal experience, banged my head against bugs for hours and not found a fix, come back later and suddenly the fix is obvious, or someone else has looked at the code and spotted the issue immediately.
Maybe you're right in your speculation, maybe they did assign someone to fix it. Or maybe it was just fixed through some unrelated change or someone spotting something in passing.
Their opinions are no better than any player, but they ought to reflect the opinion of their audience if they really are paid shills as some users here claim.
Just got dragged in here due to a mention...thanks @Bigmaec...I always liked being dragged screaming to the lion pit
I normally don't do the ED or EDO v SC thing at all since I've been a fan, supporter and player of both titles since 2015, my mantra on the matter has always been "It's really OK to like both." as a denizen of the SC sub-forum on here and on Ci¬G's Spectrum... when I'm not banned from there.
I've put 5,500 hours into ED, just slightly less into SC over the years and in all that time the only content creator I've followed was our own Obsidian Ant...he does do a few bits and pieces on SC too. Having been the FDev forums resident Star Citizen idiot for a few years now, I rarely found any ED content creator outside of Obsidian Ant who's views on SC were universally respected on t'other side of the divide...so to speak.
Then along came Katie Byrne, another already well respected ED content creator trying her hand at Star Citizen as a player and simply recording her adventures, not reviewing...just playing. I was hooked from the first video as were many veteran SC players, some like me, who play and enjoy both games...some strictly SC players who were drawn in by Katie's infectious enthusiasm.
Content creators do what they do, there are some who've recently switched over from EDO to SC for 'reasons', some seem to have an agenda, some excuse to appear pithy or petulant with regard to EDO or FDev...Katie certainly isn't one of those...I could name the others but that's as equally pithy and childish
@Katie Byrne, carry on doing what you do and I hope I can catch you sometime you're in game, I'm in there every day, usually EU servers ...watching you play is like seeing Star Citizen through more open and less jaded eyes than mine have become over the years. Respect
I normally don't do the ED or EDO v SC thing at all since I've been a fan, supporter and player of both titles since 2015, my mantra on the matter has always been "It's really OK to like both." as a denizen of the SC sub-forum on here and on Ci¬G's Spectrum... when I'm not banned from there.
I've put 5,500 hours into ED, just slightly less into SC over the years and in all that time the only content creator I've followed was our own Obsidian Ant...he does do a few bits and pieces on SC too. Having been the FDev forums resident Star Citizen idiot for a few years now, I rarely found any ED content creator outside of Obsidian Ant who's views on SC were universally respected on t'other side of the divide...so to speak.
Then along came Katie Byrne, another already well respected ED content creator trying her hand at Star Citizen as a player and simply recording her adventures, not reviewing...just playing. I was hooked from the first video as were many veteran SC players, some like me, who play and enjoy both games...some strictly SC players who were drawn in by Katie's infectious enthusiasm.
Content creators do what they do, there are some who've recently switched over from EDO to SC for 'reasons', some seem to have an agenda, some excuse to appear pithy or petulant with regard to EDO or FDev...Katie certainly isn't one of those...I could name the others but that's as equally pithy and childish
@Katie Byrne, carry on doing what you do and I hope I can catch you sometime you're in game, I'm in there every day, usually EU servers ...watching you play is like seeing Star Citizen through more open and less jaded eyes than mine have become over the years. Respect
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No, it's not unanswerable. It doesn't take a lot of grey matter to analyze past experience and ascertain what would have been the likely outcome - unless you'd rather not know.
One thing I've noticed with people who hold onto untenable beliefs is that they will claim that so long as a something is possible, no matter how improbable, it holds equal status to all other possibilities. It's the logic that argues because one person in ten million may die as a result of taking a vaccine, this is equivalent to the millions that will die because they refuse to take it.
It's not difficult to paint a picture of what would have happened. There would have been patches, but EDO would still be much, much closer to how it was in May than it is now and console users would get their own rude awakening before the year is out. Ultimately, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's as simple as that - or are you one of those people who still believe the meek shall inherit the Earth?
As a developer myself, I've never understood that either, but I think you are confusing valid criticism with victory dances. In fact, I've no idea what you're talking about, as it just sounds hysterical. No one has attacked the devs, if anything most people have been quite sympathetic about the situation they've been placed in. People have been critical of the management, because decisions to release an alpha as a fully paid software product was ultimately their responsibility.
It's their livelihood, so if they're seeing interest wain, then I don't blame them for wanting to diversify. It should be noted that none of them have stopped with Elite content, although I do feel while some have been critical or simply published less Elite content, a few (actually only one that I know of) have actively attacked it, which I don't believe is helpful either, but this is by far a minority.
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I dont think 'stupid' is the end statement of that, I'd say it sounds more like 'willful ignorance' , not saying I think that, just that that's how I read it
what is great with Katie and her buddies is that they are just trying to have fun and explore the opportunities offered with an open mind independent on what game it actually is. It is quite refreshing to watch their videos. They did as well some great content and had fun even with a still broken EDO, pointed out some of the flaws, but their goal was having fun and showing off what is possible. I agree with your assessment.Just got dragged in here due to a mention...thanks @Bigmaec...I always liked being dragged screaming to the lion pit
I normally don't do the ED or EDO v SC thing at all since I've been a fan, supporter and player of both titles since 2015, my mantra on the matter has always been "It's really OK to like both." as a denizen of the SC sub-forum on here and on Ci¬G's Spectrum... when I'm not banned from there.
I've put 5,500 hours into ED, just slightly less into SC over the years and in all that time the only content creator I've followed was our own Obsidian Ant...he does do a few bits and pieces on SC too. Having been the FDev forums resident SC idiot for a few years now, I rarely found any ED content creator outside of Obsidian Ant who's views on SC were universally respected on t'other side of the divide...so to speak.
Then along came Katie Byrne, another already well respected ED content creator trying her hand at Star Citizen as a player and simply recording her adventures, not reviewing...just playing. I was hooked from the first video as were many veteran SC players, some like me, who play and enjoy both games...some strictly SC players who were drawn in by Katie's infectious enthusiasm.
Content creators do what they do, there are some who've recently switched over from EDO to SC for 'reasons', some seem to have an agenda, some excuse to appear pithy or petulant with regard to EDO or FDev...Katie certainly isn't one of those...I could name the others but that's as equally pithy and childish
@Katie Byrne, carry on doing what you do and I hope I can catch you sometime you're in game, I'm in there every day, usually EU servers ...watching you play was like seeing Star Citizen through more open and less jaded eyes than mine have become over the years. Respect
Still a problem with desktop crash when zooming into planets for surface view when in system view. It is something wrong with the planet generation process when doing it that way.
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Sorry I genuinely am not up to speed with most influencers ... But I did see a video of a lass trying mining in SC for the 1st time a week or so ago... Would that have been her?
If so it was a v good video and I must say I was watching it with envious eyes wishing ED had mining like that. It was involved and looked fab.
No, I didn't. You clearly didn't bother reading after the hyphen.
Ok, let's leave it there.
hm, I haven't seen a video from them since them exploring the megacity in SC - been busy playing NMS, when I had the time. I think, Katie wanted to have a go at NMS as well, but I'm not that sure, that this will be a game for her and her buddies - it's less about flying space ships and more about planetary exploration - but we will see, I'm curious what she and her buddies will think about NMS. This said, in my mind it takes about 50hrs of gameplay to have a real impression what NMS is like.
If you wish, but ignoring something I wrote, that was plainly evident to others in this thread kind of supports my point.
I've actually a few hundred hours in NMS, and it would be an excellent alternative to ED, were it not that I find it a bit PG...
both are very different games - after having played it for 150hrs, I think both aren't really comparable - the focus of NMS is that what I'm missing in Elite and that is why I'm playing NMS now and no longer Elite. But is it really a space game?- I use my ship to go to different systems, see what planets are there, and if those are interesting, I plant a base or two on those planets and then I'm mainly on the planet and my ship is a local transport on those planets - I rarely ever do something else in space than flying to the anomaly station or warping to new systems - otherwise the teleporter system is fulfilling most of my transportation needs - so it isn't really a space game imo.
It should be noted that a lot of those MFS views came from Xbox pilots like me who have been waiting for this sim to land on console for a while (and it was worth the wait). Also, there was a major peformance update for PC as well on the same day as the Xbox release, so regardless of platform, a lot of people are eager to watch QA's MFS content, now and in the future if comments on his videos are any indication.
I also know that MFS threads on gaming forums like ResetEra and XboxEra have linked to QA's videos. Can't remember the last gaming thread on either of those forums for ED.
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