AMD FSR/VSR (Something is not right here?)

[Caydran]

Ok,

In Frontier's "Odyssey 6 Update", it states:

AMD Super-resolution has now been integrated.

• You should now experience an increase in game performance, as rendering is enabled at a lower resolution and then upscaled, rather than rendering at a constant full resolution.

But, ON AMD's website describing what "Super Virtual Resolution" does, it says:

VSR/FSR allows games to render at higher resolutions (up to 4K; see the ‘Virtual Super Resolution Support’ table, below) and then rescales them down to a lower native display resolution. Using this, you can get quality that rivals up to 4K, even on a 1080p display while playing your favorite games.

So, my question is?

The one from Frontier says it's rendered at a lower resolution and then upscaled, while AMD states it's rendered at a higher resolution and then rescales them to a lower resolution

So, which is it?

As Well, AMD points out that VSR only simulates SSAA for games that do not natively support SSAA.

Super Sampling Anti-Aliasing (SSAA) is one of many methods of anti-aliasing to enable smoother textures and less jaggy polygons in games, but is not supported by all games and engines. Virtual Super Resolution (VSR) is an AMD feature that is game and engine agnostic to simulate SSAA in games that do not have native SSAA support. VSR can also be used in conjunction with other native in-game anti-aliasing for even more game graphics-setting control.

So, if your system's card supports SSAA, so, does Elite, Does this mean you don't need this at all, or should not have it enabled?

I think Frontier either misunderstood what AMD FSR is and what it does, or miss-stated what FSR actually does, in the Update Post.

 

[LKx]

I guess that VSR is a different thing than FSR...
FSR is an upscaler, and the Frontier's description is correct

 

[Ian Skippy]

I think Frontier either misunderstood what AMD FSR is and what it does, or miss-stated what FSR actually does, in the Update Post.

Or, and this may sound unlikely, the team of engineers from FD and AMD know what they are doing and you are confused by two different abbreviations.

Who knows...

 

[Ian Skippy]

I guess that VSR is a different thing than FSR...
FSR is an upscaler, and the Frontier's description is correct

Yes, one is FidelityFX Super Resolution, the other is Virtual Super Resolution. Different things, AMD provides extensive documentation for both. OP simply failed to type three letters correctly into Google and then assumed the actual professionals had to be wrong.

Best thing is he realized halfway in the post there are two abbreviations, but carried on anyway.

Chef's kiss

 

[Caydran]

Or, maybe I am confused and setting Supersampling to anything below 1.0 will upscale, and anything above 1.0 will downscale.

 

[LKx]

Or, maybe I am confused and setting Supersampling to anything below 1.0 will upscale, and anything above 1.0 will downscale.

It's like that, but we only have the FSR for the upscaling, setting SS above 1 would use the usual Elite's downsampler

 

[Ian Skippy]

Or, maybe I am confused and setting Supersampling to anything below 1.0 will upscale, and anything above 1.0 will downscale.

You cannot set supersampling to anything when using FSR, the option disappears when enabling it. FSR always renders at a lower resolution, the ratio depends on the setting as explained on the AMD site. Performance@4k renders at 1080p.

 

[Caydran]

Yes, one is FidelityFX Super Resolution, the other is Virtual Super Resolution. Different things, AMD provides extensive documentation for both. OP simply failed to type three letters correctly into Google and then assumed the actual professionals had to be wrong.

No doubt confused, but correct me if I am wrong, Frontier used AMDFidelityFX CAS in update 5, and now uses FSR in update 6?

So, AMD built a downscaler called VSR and then AMD built an upscaler called FSR, really?

 

[LKx]

No doubt confused, but correct me if I am wrong, Frontier used AMDFidelityFX CAS in update 5, and now uses FSR in update 6?

So, AMD built a downscaler called VSR and then AMD built an upscaler called FSR, really?

yep

 

[Ian Skippy]

No doubt confused, but correct me if I am wrong, Frontier used AMDFidelityFX CAS in update 5, and now uses FSR in update 6?

Yes. CAS is old, FSR was released in June.

So, AMD built a downscaler called VSR and then AMD built an upscaler called FSR, really?

Yes, FSR competes with Nvidia's DLSS, VSR with Nvidia's DSR. You use the former if you need more performance and the latter if you have excess resources idling. A 3090 on a 1080p monitor would use VSR/DSR, a 1060 running a 4k monitor better uses FSR/DLSS.

 

[Caydran]

Well, confused or not, It causes problems.

It seems I have both running at the same time and if I can do it, I'm sure it can happen to others.

In AMD's Radeon software, I have "Super Virtual Resolution" turned ON using a virtual resolution of 5120x2880 and then had FSR active in Elite.

It does not work right trying to upscale and downscale at the same time.

 

[LKx]

Well, confused or not, It causes problems.

It seems I have both running at the same time and if I can do it, I'm sure it can happen to others.

In AMD's Radeon software, I have "Super Virtual Resolution" turned ON using a virtual resolution of 5120x2880 and then had FSR active in Elite.

It does not work right trying to upscale and downscale at the same time.

You might have to chose which one you need

 

[Ian Skippy]

It does not work right trying to upscale and downscale at the same time.

Then don't do that? You can do the same using GeForce Experience and that is equally pointless. If you have enough performance to use VSR you should never use FSR at all.

 

[Ian Skippy]

You might have to chose which one you need

Yup. He is arguing it is confusing to have a gas and break pedal in a car because using both at the same time doesn't work well.

I mean, yeah...

 

[Flimley]

Which ever it is it looks positively awful on my set up.

Flimley

 

[CptArcher]

Which ever it is it looks positively awful on my set up.

Flimley

Then just use SS. If you have poor performance, then start lowering the settings.

 

[Crank Larson]

Which ever it is it looks positively awful on my set up.

Flimley

At least you managed to get the word positive in there!

 

[Frop]

NGL, TIL VSR FOOBAR.

 

[Keloot]

the amd fx thingy is not working correctly . you have to select a high preset or ultra .. them on the amd thingy you have to select quality them apply .. them it works .. if you want to change the amd thingy you have to select it again

 

[Caydran]

As For FSR being broken, you CANNOT select "Balanced".

You can select the other three, but not balanced.

Why have "Balanced" there if it is useless.

FSR is useless to me.

It seems to work better if I use "Super Virtual Resolution", using a virtual resolution of 5120x2880 and downscaling to 4096x2160 (4K)