So you are saying.....its a bug?
Oh what happened to the NPCs with update 6?
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How can other commanders realize that the MISSING FLASHLIGH is a BUG after they downloaded the patch 6 for just a few hours ????????????????
NOW WE KNOW that is a bug because many commanders said THAT IS A BUG !!!!! >..<
NOW WE KNOW that is a bug because many commanders said THAT IS A BUG !!!!! >..<
Because it's obviously a bug. A bug. bug. Not intentional. A bug.
Edit: So make the most of it, because it will be gone in a while. because it's a bug.
I've hardly played much recently, but, the SRV is just as good at a support role for on-foot activities as your ship. Park well away (400-500 meters+) and SRV your way in. Your SRV targets as well so you can see what part of the settlement the NPCs are patrolling, and what loot is nearby. Park your SRV outside the area you are working, move it around the outside of the settlement as needed to support what you are up to.. Last trip I went out on my SRV was blown up when I got back to it and I never heard a notification that it was getting attacked, so that sucked (long walk back to ship), but the restocking fee for an SRV is cheaper than any rebuy on any ship. If you are spotted in the SRV all you have to do is bug out and find a safer area.
I dislike the light vs dark/shade aspect of settlements at dusk or dawn, but don't see that getting fixed any time soon. If I can't see anything I go commando/stealth/stalk mode (also helps to stay high on buildings) and it takes a bit longer to clear a settlement. If you can't see anything and you just want to find them to stalk them toss a frag into an open area. If they are anywhere near their shields go up (blue) and you'll see where roughly they came from, or just send a rocket in there, clear that area then go back to your SRV (if it isn't blown up yet), rinse repeat..
I dislike the light vs dark/shade aspect of settlements at dusk or dawn, but don't see that getting fixed any time soon. If I can't see anything I go commando/stealth/stalk mode (also helps to stay high on buildings) and it takes a bit longer to clear a settlement. If you can't see anything and you just want to find them to stalk them toss a frag into an open area. If they are anywhere near their shields go up (blue) and you'll see where roughly they came from, or just send a rocket in there, clear that area then go back to your SRV (if it isn't blown up yet), rinse repeat..
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Turn on your flashlight. Ive been 15M from them with my flashlight on them and they are oblivious. Its not very immersive but it seems they can’t see your flashlight either.
When your SRV goes boom, you can dismiss your ship, and if the settlement has a landing pad that is big enough for your ship, when you recall it, it will land there usually. Sometimes, it bugs out and just goes up and down up and down up and down.
Remember... this is ED. No quick and fun gameplay is allowed.
You need to land 10+ km away than use your srv... but... park your srv 1km+ away from the outpost then walk. Don't run or use the jetpack! When you are 500m away crouch and proceed very slowly.
There's another trick to ensure your doing fine.. if you start enjoying the game before 1 hour from your landing you are doing something wrong.
land 800M to 1km away by skimming surface. SRV to within 200M where the scavs are not patrolling. Get out get to the roofs running if you like. Its not that flipping hard.
I mean, yeah. Of course they could make it a feature for high threat level commandos coming for your bum at night after you inconvenienced a minor faction enough. Stealth drop, long range aggro and suddenly that data recovery job turns into a jump scare nightmare.
i completed 8 out of 10 kill scavengers missions yesterday (2 bugged out and wouldn´t spawn any enemies)
and i finally had some fun.
it used to feel like shooting sitting ducks, but now i had to fight to survive.
best bug ever
and i finally had some fun.
it used to feel like shooting sitting ducks, but now i had to fight to survive.
best bug ever
I will have to disagree at least in part. Ignoring the flashlight bug, This has meant a change in tactics that for me at least, has reduced the skill required. In patch 5, I would park my ship about 1 Km away from the base, hidden from line of sight, and drive in using the SRV. I would park up about 200 m out from the base and then approach on foot, mark my target, scan and wait for the best moment then take the shot and bug out. It was fun, the adrenaline was up, you never knew if a guard would tag you as you got into position resulting in a firefight and hasty retreat. I was picked off a couple of times by sharpshooters doing this, but it was fun.
Now because I know that the camp guards will attack, I drive up day or night to150- 200 m in the SRV, find some cover and lay waste to the guards from a hull-down position using the turret. No skill, quick and easy, and somewhat boring. There needs to be a balance which seems to have been lost due to the now predator-vision like performance of the guards.
They all got an attitude problem. Scan now... and now.. oi you scan now... stay still.
You do, they don't get to you quick enough they attack.
You end up running away from settlements with a fine
Really annoying
They turn red too quickly, ive had issues because I came closer to them to be scanned. Turn red shooting me when I wasn't wanted etc. Due to time it took for them to move near me
Waisting my time
You do, they don't get to you quick enough they attack.
You end up running away from settlements with a fine
Really annoying
They turn red too quickly, ive had issues because I came closer to them to be scanned. Turn red shooting me when I wasn't wanted etc. Due to time it took for them to move near me
Waisting my time
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I had that last night. I stopped for the scan and the guard wandered off, a couple of seconds later guns, missiles and me running for my ship. Worst part was it was a military base and therefore the Enforcers were around as well. The circling Anaconda was the icing, still my ICourier still had 13% shields when I jumped out, and at least it ony cost me a 500 credit fine.
i was using apex, so no ship and no srv, so i can´t really comment on that issue.
i do think that it would offer deeper gameplay, if they gave the srv an option for silent running.
Silent Running only really works when you can't SEE the thing that's being silent.
"NPCs are too easy." Patch... "NPCs are too hard". Patch
I'm confused (a state I find myself in most of the time) as to why FDev is reacting to complaints (there will always be too hard/easy complaints) and not implement NPC detection/reaction distances based on the player's Mercenary level. New players will have an easier time and the difficulty will increase as the player level/experience increases. I would think that would be a better method than a patch update based on community current reaction to "too easy" and "too hard", because that complaining will never cease.
I think the NPC rank is also tied to the current player level, somewhat. Make that the baseline for detection/reaction ranges, or something along those lines....
I'm confused (a state I find myself in most of the time) as to why FDev is reacting to complaints (there will always be too hard/easy complaints) and not implement NPC detection/reaction distances based on the player's Mercenary level. New players will have an easier time and the difficulty will increase as the player level/experience increases. I would think that would be a better method than a patch update based on community current reaction to "too easy" and "too hard", because that complaining will never cease.
I think the NPC rank is also tied to the current player level, somewhat. Make that the baseline for detection/reaction ranges, or something along those lines....
On this I would agree, both the ship and SRV are lit up like Christmas trees at night. Turning the lights off should turn them all off, after all I am trying not to be seen. There may be a bug also, where your visibility is tied to the vehicle you are using, Apex shuttles depart immediately after disembarkation, possibly resulting in the more normal detection ranges for guards. I can confirm that even from 130+ m guards can pick you up line of sight, even if you do not use your flashlight, if you approach in an SRV. I don't mind them seeing the SRV at 400 m, I park it hull down as much as possible, but once on foot, crouched with no lights and using night vision or just the base lights to navigate, I should be able to move into combat range if I am careful.
There was one instance, where after taking out a guard, one of his compatriots ran past me and proceeded to attack my SRV. Standing about 10 m in front of it. He made for a fine target for the Executioner I was carrying.. He must have run 200 m to attack the SRV though, passing within 50 m of me.
NPCs are neither too easy or too hard, in patch 5 however, there was some skill to approach and take out 15 guards. Their abilities are meant to ramp with their combat rating. Because of, possibly an unexpected result of changing their behaviour, they are now much simpler to eliminate, as they will attack an SRV which approaches the base at around 150 to 200 m far outside the effective range of almost if not all of their weapons, particularly if you park it behind a rock or hill and use the turret.
Maybe we should be able to engineer a giant ghillie suit for the SRV. Covered with pickles and cacti it would reruce detectable distance by 10% with each grade of engineering. It would take like 312 hours worth of mats though to balance it out.