State of the Game

[ULITE]

Sorry - just trying to land this thing but there too many dnm rocks...

combing the planet's surface could prove difficult with all that rocks

 

[nemolomen]

There is only one man who would dare give me the raspberry

 

[nemolomen]

This is obviously some definition of "fun" that I was hitherto unaware of.....

Fun depends on one's interests.

Monkeying with old hardware is fun for me but very tedious and NOT fun for many.

 

[ULITE]

Monkeying with old hardware is fun for me but very tedious and NOT fun for many.

10 years ago I would have agreed, the last thing I did with old hardware was reinstalling system 7 on my Power Mac in 2012

 

[nemolomen]

10 years ago I would have agreed, the last thing I did with old hardware was reinstalling system 7 on my PowerPc in 2012

All of my "old hardware" is minimum 30 years old, with one exception (Beige PowerMac G3 Tower with HD/DD floppy drive). The other systems are Amigas, Commodore 8-bit and a Tandy 1000.

Recently (6-8 months) bought a complete copy of Frontier: Elite II for Amiga from an ebayer in the UK. Runs awesome on a 68040.

Waiting on my ZZ9000 to arrive from Germany, any time now.

 

[ULITE]

All of my "old hardware" is minimum 30 years old, with one exception (Beige PowerMac G3 Tower with HD/DD floppy drive). The other systems are Amigas, Commodore 8-bit and a Tandy 1000.

This thing is almost 30 years old

 

[Darth Ender]

This thing is almost 30 years old
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fast forward 26 years ... well.. they are in phones - though they have lost most of what risc had in terms of benefits over cisc long ago. Now it merely exists because of the licensing options.

 

[nemolomen]

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fast forward 26 years ... well.. they are in phones - though they have lost most of what risc had in terms of benefits over cisc long ago. Now it merely exists because of the licensing options.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

you make menuconfig... pick your hardware and features you want (you usually only do this once and then only have to play with things that change in subsequent kernels). run make -j24 bindeb-pkg .... then dpkg -i the deb files. easy peasy.

then there's the optional patch you may want to test that hasn't made it into the mainline yet...so you'd patch that in first ..but it's a pretty straight forward process.

depending on hardware it takes anywhere from 1 min to maybe 5 min ...unless you're rocking old / slow stuff..then longer.

you end up with a streamlined kernel with only the stuff you want or need in it or new stuff not yet available to your distro...and optimized for your hardware.

Compare that to the fun of exploration in some games...where you can spend hours and hours looking at variations of things that the game will pay you credits for and do nothing else, leaving you and the game no different at the end than when you started. Some people think that's fun. So relatively, kernel compiling is spring break (for attractive people).

So it's like one of those games you get on your phone that you play over and over again just trying to beat your high score.

Some people are easily occupied, I guess.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

combing the planet's surface could prove difficult with all that rocks

And with the fuel ticking down... It's one fine pilot who can manage that!

 

[Bottom Hat]

This thing is almost 30 years old
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You could get really "upside ya head" with that as a weapon!

 

[PRORABBIT67]

 

[nemolomen]

So it's like one of those games you get on your phone that you play over and over again just trying to beat your high score.

Some people are easily occupied, I guess.

More like running cargo in ED with an eye towards "as efficiently as possible".

So yes, some of us get enjoyment out of the simplest things.

 

[nemolomen]

And with the fuel ticking down... It's one fine pilot who can manage that!

I take it you landed safely.

 

[Darth Ender]

So it's like one of those games you get on your phone that you play over and over again just trying to beat your high score.

Some people are easily occupied, I guess.

if all you're doing is the checking for compilation times ... but this game also allows you to acquire items that regular players dont have access to. and it allows you to do missions / events that other players dont have access to.

lots of things are out of tree or take a long time to make it to a shared common kernel build that distros utilize (if they ever make it there). If you want access to those things compiling is the simplest option. and even if you dont, compiling the kernel gives you flexibility in distro versions and updates that could otherwise be limiting on hardware not deemed common enough, or too new for the release ..etc.

you dont have to be afraid. The prebuilts will still be there for you to fall back on if you screw up.

 

[nemolomen]

if all you're doing is the checking for compilation times ... but this game also allows you to acquire items that regular players dont have access to. and it allows you to do missions / events that other players dont have access to.

lots of things are out of tree or take a long time to make it to a shared common kernel build that distros utilize (if they ever make it there). If you want access to those things compiling is the simplest option. and even if you dont, compiling the kernel gives you flexibility in distro versions and updates that could otherwise be limiting on hardware not deemed common enough, or too new for the release ..etc.

you dont have to be afraid. The prebuilts will still be there for you to fall back on if you screw up.

You ever read any of Alastair Reynolds "Revelation Space" novels. Awesome handling of computer system/software topics IMHO.

 

[Valorin]

Hey, @Valorin ,you busy with real life nonsense again? Because I miss your daily coffee update!

No coffee, sorry. It's tea now.
Coffee upset my stomach after years of use, so I needed to change that. Fortunately the girlfriend is a tea drinker who could recommend a few really great green teas with high caffeine and we switched entirely now.
And yes. Real life is a real [REDACTED] at the moment which mostly leaves my brain at low capacity and often not in the mood for joking around unfortunately.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

I take it you landed safely.

Well he did - on a computer with less power than a pocket calculator where you punch in the numbers directly into memory... Error 1201 marked the last couple of minutes of terror! You don't know the story?

 

[Bottom Hat]

if all you're doing is the checking for compilation times ... but this game also allows you to acquire items that regular players dont have access to. and it allows you to do missions / events that other players dont have access to.

lots of things are out of tree or take a long time to make it to a shared common kernel build that distros utilize (if they ever make it there). If you want access to those things compiling is the simplest option. and even if you dont, compiling the kernel gives you flexibility in distro versions and updates that could otherwise be limiting on hardware not deemed common enough, or too new for the release ..etc.

you dont have to be afraid. The prebuilts will still be there for you to fall back on if you screw up.

Yes....

 

[nemolomen]

Well he did - on a computer with less power than a pocket calculator where you punch in the numbers directly into memory... Error 1201 marked the last couple of minutes of terror! You don't know the story?

Lunar Lander? - That was a long, long, long time ago.