As many META wishlist animals in as little DLCs as possible

[avietar]

Based on the META wishlist, I thought I'd try to make as few DLCs as possible containing as many animals as possible that are in the top 50. Where necessary to fill out packs, I ventured out below to pick lower ranked animals, but still as highly ranked as possible. This is what I came up with!

Mostly animal packs, with the exception of Classic Europe. Out of the highly ranked animals, the only animals I couldn't fit were the Tasmanian devil, Maned wolf, Common wombat, Iberian lynx.

Classic Europe	1	Red deer		Eurasia	1	Przwalski's horse
+building styles	2	European badger			2	Eurasian lynx
	3	Red fox			3	Takin
	4	Alpine ibex			4	Arctic fox
					5	Wild boar
North America	1	Moose			6	Asian small clawed otter
	2	Puma			7	Amur leopard
	3	Collared peccary
	4	Wolverine		Rivers and bays	1	Capybara
	5	Raccoon			2	North American beaver
	6	Musk ox			3	Platypus
	7	American alligator			4	Walrus
					5	Red river hog
Drylands	1	Black rhino			6	West Indian manatee
	2	Hamadryas baboon			7	California sea lion
	3	African crested porcupine
	4	Dromedary		Tree dwellers	1	Lar gibbon
	5	Caracal			2	Fossa
	6	Addax			3	Brown throated three toed sloth
	7	Patagonian mara			4	South American coati
					5	Goodfellow's tree kangaroo
Ground birds	1	Emu			6	Black howler monkey
	2	North island brown kiwi			7	Spectacled bear
	3	Grey crowned crane
	4	Secretary bird
	5	Shoebill
	6	Great white pelican
	7	Helmeted guinea fowl
	8	Greater rhea

 

[Antimony96]

I know this is just based off the meta wishlist but the manatee sticks out like a sore thumb when it would be the only fully-aquatic animal in the entire game.

 

[avietar]

I know this is just based off the meta wishlist but the manatee sticks out like a sore thumb when it would be the only fully-aquatic animal in the entire game.

Maybe there could be simple solutions to that. For instance, the manatee could spawn in the water instead of on the land. And if there is no body of water, it cannot spawn. Something like that.

 

[yoav_r]

I know this is just based off the meta wishlist but the manatee sticks out like a sore thumb when it would be the only fully-aquatic animal in the entire game.

Yea I really don't understand people who put the manatee in their lists.

Other than that, great work on the dlcs!

 

[nutrit]

Nice list but there are too many South American species missing simultaneously among with two European centered packs - that’s just doesn’t seem quite right.

 

[12344321]

I love all these animals. I personally feel like if you are looking for as little DLC's as possible using 5 or 6 continents (N.America, S.America, Africa, Eurasia, Oceania, and maybe Antarctica/Arctic) is the easiest and most efficient way to split up every animal species still missing.

 

[paul78]

The manatee should be in planet zoo regardless of the only fully aquatic animal or not. With the recent debut of jwe2 featuring marine animals the manatee shouldn’t be a problem. Truth is planet zoo needs at least a fully aquatic animal. Cetaceans- probably not going to happen. Fish - possibly but will more then likely be a looped animation animal(which makes perfect sense). Sharks and rays possible but not guaranteed. The manatee makes perfect sense and is simply the best fit for planet zoo imo. Truthfully it would probably be part of a pack non specific to fully aquatic animals so it wouldn’t matter anyway. So I understand people putting it on their list for sure.

 

[yoav_r]

The manatee should be in planet zoo regardless of the only fully aquatic animal or not. With the recent debut of jwe2 featuring marine animals the manatee shouldn’t be a problem. Truth is planet zoo needs at least a fully aquatic animal. Cetaceans- probably not going to happen. Fish - possibly but will more then likely be a looped animation animal(which makes perfect sense). Sharks and rays possible but not guaranteed. The manatee makes perfect sense and is simply the best fit for planet zoo imo. Truthfully it would probably be part of a pack non specific to fully aquatic animals so it wouldn’t matter anyway. So I understand people putting it on their list for sure.

Manatees are not zoo animals. Some zoos have them, but they are distinctly aquarium based.

Other than that, these kists are meant to help Frontiers prioritize fratures and species. Saying "manatees should be in the game as the only aquatic animal" is a very nonprofitable stance to take, as it's a huge development cost for little value.

I could see manatees in a full aquatic pack, but so far they can not be implemented in the game with no new aquarium features.

 

[NZFanatic]

but so far they can not be implemented in the game with no new aquarium features.

I don't see why they couldn't be. All they'd need to change is how the animal is transported to the habitat. Everything else is already set up for them - underwater feeders are already in the game, animations are possible.

 

[paul78]

If they can implement marine animals in jwe2 they can do the same in planet zoo. The games feature the same engine. Like aviary dlc it just hasn’t been introduced yet but fully possible for sure. Although manatee may not be in many zoos they are endangered and definitely support frontiers message with planet zoo. I I respectfully disagree a manatee whether the only fully aquatic animal or not would sell very well.

 

[yoav_r]

I don't see why they couldn't be. All they'd need to change is how the animal is transported to the habitat. Everything else is already set up for them - underwater feeders are already in the game, animations are possible.

They could, but it would take a lot of work. Currently the habitat gate is locked to the yerrain from a coding perspective. It is the gaming equivalent of buying a drone, learning to fly it, and then only using it to take a single picture of your basement.

It can be done, but you'd likely only by a drone for a more frequent use.

 

[yoav_r]

If they can implement marine animals in jwe2 they can do the same in planet zoo. The games feature the same engine. Like aviary dlc it just hasn’t been introduced yet but fully possible for sure. Although manatee may not be in many zoos they are endangered and definitely support frontiers message with planet zoo. I I respectfully disagree a manatee whether the only fully aquatic animal or not would sell very well.

I'm not saying it can't be done or it isn't worth it. I said it does not fit within wishlists in the current limitations. If and when aquariums are implemented, manatees and all the rest of marine animals would have their place in the wishlist. But currently manatees are a sore thumb in a much more practical list.

 

[Leaf Productions]

Manatees have just as much validity as birds do. Since JWE has both free-flying and swimming dinosaurs, I have no qualm with the inclusion of said mammal on this list.

 

[NZFanatic]

Currently the habitat gate is locked to the yerrain from a coding perspective.

Yeah but I don't think that matters at all. The only thing that would need to change is that the vet/caretaker would need to walk to the water's edge instead of dumping the animal at the gate.

 

[yoav_r]

Yeah but I don't think that matters at all. The only thing that would need to change is that the vet/caretaker would need to walk to the water's edge instead of dumping the animal at the gate.

That's not how programming works.

Think of it like this:
The terrain supplies coordinates for the gate -> the gate locks the terrain in place for a stable entrance -> the locked terrain allows the entry of any animal with no bugs -> animal entry allows a safepoint for stuck animals to teleport into, and to calculate traverseable area.

Nearly all habitat related features are bound to the habitat gate, which is bound to the terrain. This is also why we don't have multiple habitat gates yet.

Meanwhile, the water are just a volumetric filter which dictates change in animations and calculations of traverseable area.

Aquatic habitats require an entirely new habitat system, it is not just a change in animations.

 

[NZFanatic]

it is not just a change in animations.

I'm not saying it is. I'm also well aware of the rest of what you've written (I'm one of the people who is reminding others of that constantly).

A fully aquatic animal would need a different point of entry anyway - we agree on that. I just don't think it needs to be a wholly new habitat system. I don't believe that it's necessary for just the manatee alone to work.

 

[Bearcat9948]

Manatees are not zoo animals. Some zoos have them, but they are distinctly aquarium based.

What? There are plenty of zoos that showcase them. Most in the U.S are simply rescued animals but there are a lot of places in Europe that actually breed them and display them. They're also in Singapore. They're definitely a zoo animal.

 

[yoav_r]

I'm not saying it is. I'm also well aware of the rest of what you've written (I'm one of the people who is reminding others of that constantly).

A fully aquatic animal would need a different point of entry anyway - we agree on that. I just don't think it needs to be a wholly new habitat system. I don't believe that it's necessary for just the manatee alone to work.

I'm curious. How would you make the manatee work without a habitat system overhaul?

 

[NZFanatic]

I'm curious. How would you make the manatee work without a habitat system overhaul?

Just as I said. Extend the parameters of entry for this one specific animal so that it requires the water's edge to enter the habitat.

One possible way would be to make it so the water has to be as close as possible to the habitat gate. There is already a minimum distance in the game - so in this case the water would have to be at the threshold of that distance, and when the staff member throws down the crate, it would open into the water.

It isn't perfect, but it shouldn't require a whole new system. Anyway, I'm not a big advocate for the manatee as it is, so it doesn't really matter to me - I just think it's possibly the only marine animal we could get without needing an aquarium system.