Newcomer / Intro Night Missions...?

jpjeffrey

jpjeffrey
Is there any way to tell if a mission given at a concourse terminal will be a NIGHT mission...?
(Is this condition set at the time of taking the mission, or can you 'wait half a revolution' of the target planet (yes, I know some of 'em don't spin....)
If the condition is SET at the time of the taking of the mission (ie regardless of how long you wait) then it ought to be specified in the mission details...
 

finglonger

F
most if not all planets rotate however some planets are tidally locked meaning one side of the planet always faces the star and the other side is always dark.

or the planet rotates so slow that it takes longer than earths 23.93 hours to complete its rotation and missions may always appear to be in the dark.. iirc some guardian sites ive visited always seem to be during the dark hours

and no ive never seen any indication of whether missions take place during night time... iirc most missions you can wait until the mission area appears in day light
that is assuming the planet is not in eclipse or close enough to its star to receive enough light
 
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Screemonster

Screemonster
[VR] Orodruin said:
Night makes it easier to find your targets though ... they are at the end of those flashlights moving around ;)
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Yeah, when I'm on approach to a settlement on a scav-clearing mission I specifically turn off night vision so I can clock which side of the settlement they're on from their flashlights and land on the other side. If it happens during the day I have to guess from the layout.

Likewise, I've got a bunch of suits with NV and I toggle it off when I'm trying to spot them and back on when I've found them and I'm looking for where their head is so I can put some plasma through it.
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
metatheurgist said:
The system map shows an accurate depiction of whether the site is currently in day or night, I believe.
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I’ve found that it is often not very accurate. It seems to me that many times when I navlock on a site in the light it is actually on the night side and vice versa. Just anecdotal level though, I’ve not been keeping tabs.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
metatheurgist said:
The system map shows an accurate depiction of whether the site is currently in day or night, I believe.
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While bodies on the system map rotate (cool) I've never found them accurate to match if a site is currently day or night. More of an RNG where a player might think that the system map matches the day or night versus when they get to the site. I don't think they are connected.

If by design they were supposed to be connected well that's another bug to add to the list.
 
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Codger

Codger
Short answer: no.

Long answer: it’s always on the dark side unless you want it dark, then it’s not.

Planets rotate and the system map does not try to sync them all visually. Heck it’s slow enough as it is.
 

Northpin

Northpin
I still remember the first mission on an abandoned settlement in the dark side.
No lights whatsoever, no fires, nothing. Just pitch black and the vague structures puled out of the darkness by my puny flashlight.
Not having the slighted idea about the layout (i didnt got the alpha - i assumed the live beta would be eoungh of a challenge 😂 ) - it felt very immersive

But as been said already - nightside makes it way easier to spot the enemies than daylight.
 

jpjeffrey

jpjeffrey
:)
I actually prefer the night missions (... must be a throwback to my old Jagged Alliance 2 days....)
The question is this: Is the day/night condition SET AT THE TIME THE MISSION IS TAKEN....?
If so, then it seems to me that this fact ought to be mentioned in the notice of the mission...
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
Nah, the lighting is per the actual state of the body in relation to the sun at the time of it's orbit. The question is does the Sysmap reflect this.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
finglonger said:
most if not all planets rotate however some planets are tidally locked meaning one side of the planet always faces the star and the other side is always dark.
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I hesitate to nit-pick but that is not correct. Being tidally locked means something (A) orbiting about a body (B) at the same rate at which the orbiting body (A) is rotating. So for destinations that are on moons (or binary bodies) - tidally locked does not relate to "facing the star". Think of the Earth and the Moon - Moon is tidally locked to Earth but has a day/night period.

(Just to be awkward, being tidally locked does not necessarily mean always one side facing - Mercury for example is tidally locked but its rotation is a ratio of its orbital period - or something like that.)
 
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Codger

Codger
jpjeffrey said:
The question is this: Is the day/night condition SET AT THE TIME THE MISSION IS TAKEN....?
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Of course not. The galaxy is 'alive', and in constant motion. There's no way for the mission to know when you're actually going to go there. You can sit on a planet and watch the day/night cycle if you're patient enough (some bodies rotate faster than others, of course). Catching a sunrise is pretty cool.

Take a trip to Mitterand Hollow someday to watch stuff move in real time (because it happens to move very fast and you can see it happening).

(A video here if you wanna see before going )

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_NNhNGkF64
 

jpjeffrey

jpjeffrey
Codger said:
Of course not. The galaxy is 'alive', and in constant motion.
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So, if you're correct, in some cases you CAN wait until the target rotates into the light or dark, as the case may be...?
(so long as you keep in mind that the clock may be running on the mission)
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
jpjeffrey said:
So, if you're correct, in some cases you CAN wait until the target rotates into the light or dark, as the case may be...?
(so long as you keep in mind that the clock may be running on the mission)
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You can actually watch the sun rise over a settlement if you like. I've been eclipsed while working on Barnacles in the Pleiades. Something about attack ships on fire in Orion....
 
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