Settlement Defence Plans

Lankspeed

Lankspeed
Can Somebody please help in pointing me in the correct direction to finding “Settlement Defence Plans”. I have tried missions. Like 100’s of them on several stations. Also found some “Irregular Marker Grade 3”sites, having spent all today 0900 to 1500 re-logging at the skimmer site and no drops of this download. Loads of Pirates to kill got over 150000 cr in bounties.

But it looks like these items are rare as “Rocking Horse 03mnd8ru3”

This all started on Saturday Morning have got to Hero Ferrari to upgrade my Sidearm. I now need a scope.
 

Vardaugas

Vardaugas
We may get lucky and see some changes in next week's patch. Until then either you grind your brain off or you go do some covert heists and thefts to eventually get Oden Geiger unlocked. He does scopes.
 

Lankspeed

Lankspeed
Vardaugas said:
We may get lucky and see some changes in next week's patch. Until then either you grind your brain off or you go do some covert heists and thefts to eventually get Oden Geiger unlocked. He does scopes.
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Oh had not thought of that route thanks will try that.
 

yianniv

yianniv
Lankspeed said:
Can Somebody please help in pointing me in the correct direction to finding “Settlement Defence Plans”. I have tried missions. Like 100’s of them on several stations. Also found some “Irregular Marker Grade 3”sites, having spent all today 0900 to 1500 re-logging at the skimmer site and no drops of this download. Loads of Pirates to kill got over 150000 cr in bounties.

But it looks like these items are rare as “Rocking Horse 03mnd8ru3”

This all started on Saturday Morning have got to Hero Ferrari to upgrade my Sidearm. I now need a scope.
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The Irregular Markers don't have to be Threat 3. I found plenty SDP at T1 and 2. Just make sure they have the half-burried skimmer next to the 2 containers.
 

Ethaidan

Ethaidan
You're on the right track with crashed skimmers. I've found a planet that always seems to have multiple crashed satellites and skimmers. I did some relog testing while cooking dinner last night and some patterns sort of emerged.

When you find a satellite that gives you topographical surveys and atmospheric data in the first instance, you're going to get more of those. Plus manufacturing/operational instructions.

Similarly, if you get settlement defense plans from the first instance, you'll get more - had one that gave me 5 SDP in about 10 relogs, I had another that gave me nothing but patrol & surveillance logs.

Granted, it wasn't a huge relog sample.
 

Northpin

Northpin
Ethaidan said:
You're on the right track with crashed skimmers. I've found a planet that always seems to have multiple crashed satellites and skimmers. I did some relog testing while cooking dinner last night and some patterns sort of emerged.

When you find a satellite that gives you topographical surveys and atmospheric data in the first instance, you're going to get more of those. Plus manufacturing/operational instructions.

Similarly, if you get settlement defense plans from the first instance, you'll get more - had one that gave me 5 SDP in about 10 relogs, I had another that gave me nothing but patrol & surveillance logs.

Granted, it wasn't a huge relog sample.
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Only Skimmers in Irregular Marking (threat 1-3) gives Settlement Defense Plans (they also give Manufacturing Instructions and other things that usually come from Security ports)

Impact sites have 2 different types of satellites. The small winged one will give a different set of data than the bigger spherical one.
For example only the small one will give NOC data, but the big one is the best source for Manufacturing Instructions since it may give them 4 at a time (extremely rare, i know)
 

Retropolitan

Retropolitan
I've been avoiding relogging as much as possible, but since release I'd only picked up one Settlement Defence Plan from a settlement's security data port. So a couple of days ago I went to an Irregular Markers site and got 15 in about an hour and a half. Not what I'd call fun, and there's no guarantee how often they'll drop, but you can get them that way.
 

Northpin

Northpin
Vandaahl said:
Contrary to what DEA says, small ones give nice amounts of MI as well.
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Yea, but the small ones give only maximum 3 data at a time, the big ones can give 4, while the skimmers give only 2 data.
MI can come from any of them, but obviously the big one has the most chances to give more MI.
Also obviously, the RNG plays an important role too
 

Fenwe

F
Retropolitan said:
I've been avoiding relogging as much as possible, but since release I'd only picked up one Settlement Defence Plan from a settlement's security data port. So a couple of days ago I went to an Irregular Markers site and got 15 in about an hour and a half. Not what I'd call fun, and there's no guarantee how often they'll drop, but you can get them that way.
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I don't like relogging either, but it's what I did to finish the unlock.

I was inches away from downed 'thing', so that I wasn't picked up by the guards and then relog. I had 3, took me 118 relogs to get 13 more. The mistress of RNG hates me.
 

leonardofelin

leonardofelin
Fenwe said:
had 3, took me 118 relogs to get 13 more. The mistress of RNG hates me.
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Nope, that's about the same it was for me: 108 relogs for 14 Settlement Defense Plans. I was really lucky on the first 6 relogs, getting 5 SDPs right off the bat.
So, RNG doesn't hate you. It just doesn't favor you.
 

AdagioKonrinzai

AdagioKonrinzai
After 30 straight tries at a skimmer Irregular Marking threat 3 I have found Zero, zilch, zip, nil, nought, nada, nothing, butkus, diddly-squat.
 

Cmdr G

C
AdagioKonrinzai said:
After 30 straight tries at a skimmer Irregular Marking threat 3 I have found Zero, zilch, zip, nil, nought, nada, nothing, butkus, diddly-squat.
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I did not hear about it till after the fact but the relogging trick has been nerfed...assuming that is what you refer to with the 30 straight tries. That said, Frontier has ignored our plea for SDP, Smear. It breaks my heart to see Frontier destroy their own brand and ruin a game I've loved since I started it 1500+ in game hours ago. After coming up empty handed with the SDP, then switching to Smear and again coming up empty handed, I've been considering moving on to covert theft missions to unlock Tera Velasquez... and as I've been considering this I've noticed a reduction in those missions as well. It has become OBVIOUS Frontier is doing this on purpose. I don't understand why, and I no longer care why. At first I did care as to why they would do this but after seeing the intentionality of it, it has now made me angry and I have nothing good to say about Frontier. I will continue to play; for now. But I've noticed my attitude towards the game has changed dramatically. Willing to endure the grind to achieve something is angst inducing. But when it is now obvious that it is futile and intentional really takes the shine off the game. I am VERY sad to say that I am considering other games. When I first heard about ED and that it supported VR I considered getting a VR headset JUST FOR THIS GAME. I am so very very glad I did not do it, I opted for head tracking and honestly I stopped using that because of my disgust at Frontier.
 

AdagioKonrinzai

AdagioKonrinzai
Cmdr G said:
I did not hear about it till after the fact but the relogging trick has been nerfed...assuming that is what you refer to with the 30 straight tries. That said, Frontier has ignored our plea for SDP, Smear. It breaks my heart to see Frontier destroy their own brand and ruin a game I've loved since I started it 1500+ in game hours ago. After coming up empty handed with the SDP, then switching to Smear and again coming up empty handed, I've been considering moving on to covert theft missions to unlock Tera Velasquez... and as I've been considering this I've noticed a reduction in those missions as well. It has become OBVIOUS Frontier is doing this on purpose. I don't understand why, and I no longer care why. At first I did care as to why they would do this but after seeing the intentionality of it, it has now made me angry and I have nothing good to say about Frontier. I will continue to play; for now. But I've noticed my attitude towards the game has changed dramatically. Willing to endure the grind to achieve something is angst inducing. But when it is now obvious that it is futile and intentional really takes the shine off the game. I am VERY sad to say that I am considering other games. When I first heard about ED and that it supported VR I considered getting a VR headset JUST FOR THIS GAME. I am so very very glad I did not do it, I opted for head tracking and honestly I stopped using that because of my disgust at Frontier.
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This is 30 different systems without relogging. But the problem is solved, since posting this now I don't find ANY Irregular Markers. Seems they flagged me for posting this. FDEV only likes sycophants, I think I'll give this game a long rest for now, I set set a value on my time and they just crossed the line.
 
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metatheurgist

metatheurgist
AdagioKonrinzai said:
This is 30 different systems without relogging. But the problem is solved, since posting this now I don't find ANY Irregular Markers. Seems they flagged me for posting this. FDEV only likes sycophants, I think I'll give this game a long rest for now, I set set a value on my time and they just crossed the line.
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RNG is just RNG. Don't take it personally. It would be more effort than it's worth to put code in to target specific players. They already have enough issues making the normal code work. Not to mention if that were true it would be too easy to work around just by having someone else find them for you.
 

Martind Forlon

Martind Forlon
Yesterday I visited anarchy system for Smear Campaign Plans and few hours later I had 8 needed and sold them to bartender .... however I forgot that I did not delivered yet five Surveillance equipment (which I had 30+) to engineer Fowler. Result was obvious, all those hours spent with stealthy movement through tourist settlements are lost, access to engineer YB is still locked. Frontier support politely declined my request to help. The best irony is that I did not find one single SCP during three months of normal play, I simply did not searched for specific data in tourist settlements in anarchy system. I like Odyssey despite its numerous flaws, but this really feel me cheated, I simply strongly dislike to lose progress like this.
 
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